All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams
2011 Friendlies Discussion
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Just been looking into the FIFA international windows for next year. There is one down for the 17th of November this year.
9 February (1 friendly) - Phoenix playing that night in Sydney.
26 to 30 March (2 friendlies)
4 to 8 June (2 friendlies)
17 August (1 friendly)
3 to 7 September (2 friendlies)
8 to 12 October (2 friendlies)
12 to 16 November (2 friendlies)
For me, we need to get two sorted in the March and June windows. Perferably one of those windows at home.
And just for the record, the first round of qualifying for the OFC nations for the world cup and confeds cup will double as the 2011 Pacific Games in Noumea during 27 August - 10 September 2011. So we won't have WC qualifcation games until sometime in 2012.
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I'd like to see us go over to Asia and play Japan/Koreas/China.
Then bring maybe a European side over here and play them and Aussi in a tri-series type thing, put a trophey up and get the public interested. Test matches people, not friendlies!
Then bring maybe a European side over here and play them and Aussi in a tri-series type thing, put a trophey up and get the public interested. Test matches people, not friendlies!
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My view:
2 away "friendlies" in March
2 home "friendlies" in October
We need to create some tradition and habit in regard to home "friendlies". The October window is probably as good a place to start as any. Every year we organise a decent home fixture in October and we get it sorted and in the calendar asap. NZ football fans and the media come to expect and look forward to the October international window, knowing we'll have a worthwhile game.
The reality is that bc of our geographic location, spread of players and lack of meaningful qualifiers we are going to stretch the interest/patience of club managers, players and fans if we try to play too many friendlies. So quality over quanity. The March window looks good for away "friendlies". A-League players will be finished but not in the middle of their off-season and Europe still going.
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Yeah the October window looks pretty key for getting some momentum built up. The ASB Cup?
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I heard we were going to play aussie in March next year.
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A traditional Aussie fixture would get people excited on the basis we don't cock up.
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My view:
2 away "friendlies" in March
2 home "friendlies" in October
We need to create some tradition and habit in regard to home "friendlies". The October window is probably as good a place to start as any. Every year we organise a decent home fixture in October and we get it sorted and in the calendar asap. NZ football fans and the media come to expect and look forward to the October international window, knowing we'll have a worthwhile game.
The reality is that bc of our geographic location, spread of players and lack of meaningful qualifiers we are going to stretch the interest/patience of club managers, players and fans if we try to play too many friendlies. So quality over quanity. The March window looks good for away "friendlies". A-League players will be finished but not in the middle of their off-season and Europe still going.
why not play the home friendlies in June when there is not the issue of clubs in Europe having to release players? I imagine that players will be more open to making the long trip knowing they can stay afterwards for a bit of time with families, before heading off on their holidays roasting young girls with their mates.
Then tyou can have two friendlies in March in Europe, and 2 in October in the US, or something like that.
Simples.
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A traditional Aussie fixture would get people excited on the basis we don't cock up.
Are you not worried of the safety of our players?
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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oh well - some of those tackles would make it a little clearer to the NZ public what the word 'friendly' does and doesn't mean in football
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If we had chant sheets with other useful info on the back we could explain what a friendly means (and that you stand in the WN zone).
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June might work as well as october - as long as the A-League boys are not still drunk and the European lads are too knackered.
Merits of October v June would need to be thrashed out - but i think really important we establish it as a regular calendar fixture one way or the other.
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Some sort of home and away (no pun intended) fixture v Aussie would be good IMO. Home one year and away the next sort of thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Only if its a international window which i doubt
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Clearly it's not but I'm sure we can arrange something, and it would give a chance for fringe players to showcase their talent.
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No club would release a player when they don't have to.
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Michael Glading told me that although nothing was locked in as of yet, they're hoping to play a "big team" away in March. It's perhaps fair enough to say there is unlikely to be any high quality internationals played here in the near future. Mr Glading said they should have some upcoming friendlies locked in by the end of the year, which is exciting!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10678816
I like the idea of more games against Australia, even if it is just our Australasian-based players versus theirs. Mr Glading didn't rule this out as a possibility.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10678816
I like the idea of more games against Australia, even if it is just our Australasian-based players versus theirs. Mr Glading didn't rule this out as a possibility.
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oh well - some of those tackles would make it a little
clearer to the NZ public what the word 'friendly' does and doesn't mean
in football
I believe a fixture of this nature would not last if it is not a FIFA game with something to play for (e.g. World Cup qualification). England and Scotland I seem to recall used to play annually until the late 1980's until that was stopped.
No point having a fired-up friendly with nothing on the line. The European bosses of the players won't let it happen.
Oceanic Expert2010-10-12 02:15:44
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oh well - some of those tackles would make it a little clearer to the NZ public what the word 'friendly' does and doesn't mean in football
I believe a fixture of this nature would not last if it is not a FIFA game with something to play for (e.g. World Cup qualification). England and Scotland I seem to recall used to play annually until the late 1980's until that was stopped.
No point having a fired-up friendly with nothing on the line. The European bosses of the players won't let it happen.
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Michael Glading told me that although nothing was locked in as of yet, they're hoping to play a "big team" away in March. It's perhaps fair enough to say there is unlikely to be any high quality internationals played here in the near future. Mr Glading said they should have some upcoming friendlies locked in by the end of the year, which is exciting!http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10678816I like the idea of more games against Australia, even if it is just our Australasian-based players versus theirs. Mr Glading didn't rule this out as a possibility.
Nice article Paul.
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I can not imagine the English public thinking of any international as a friendly.
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IMHO, aboslutely highest priority has to go to Christchurch. NZF owes the city big time. China said they wanted to play two matches in NZ, so I'll say play a midweek match against China at North Harbour (to satisfy the worst contract ever) and the real match at AMI. If not, get Australia or a big team in Chch, and get a minor team in Auckland for aforementioned contract reasons (I'd rather give up friendly matches than have Auckland demand they host our qualification playoff for Brazil 2014).
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As NZF will find out to the detriment of Wgtn, mid week games will never pull the same crowd, for the same game on a Saturday. Are we being set up
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IMHO NZF criticism in DomPost is unwarranted....it is a mid week game, overpriced, in recessionary times and to expect a large crowd based on the Nov 14 sucess is just dreaming. Wellington has done its bit to raise profile but when you treat spectators as cash cows then it can turn to moo.
By all means rotate games to maintain public support..but dont knock one venue other another based on turnout for one game.
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
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overpriced?, you are having a laff right?
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IMHO, aboslutely highest priority has to go to Christchurch. NZF owes the city big time.
Why? (i'm seriously asking)
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It's a fair question, and as it's my opinion rather than a concrete fact there's nothing wrong with questioning it.
The last time Christchurch hosted the All Whites was in 2006 for a friendly against Malaysia. This drew 10K people when football wasn't yet trendy. Since then, it's been:
Auckland (Malaysia)
Wellington (Vanuatu)
Auckland (New Caledonia)
Wellinton (Bahrain)
Auckland (NZFC All-Stars)
Auckland (Honduras)
Wellington (Larissa Riquelme)
That's 3 for Wellington and 4 for Auckland (3 if you discount the NZFC match - obviously not a real match but more than Chch has received). 0 for Christchurch.
In my personal opinion, All Whites home matches should be rotated between the three cities. Christchurch has waited long enough for their turn, and I'd personally like to see the next home match played at AMI. This is despite my not living there and the fact that it'd be expensive for me to attend.
The last time Christchurch hosted the All Whites was in 2006 for a friendly against Malaysia. This drew 10K people when football wasn't yet trendy. Since then, it's been:
Auckland (Malaysia)
Wellington (Vanuatu)
Auckland (New Caledonia)
Wellinton (Bahrain)
Auckland (NZFC All-Stars)
Auckland (Honduras)
Wellington (Larissa Riquelme)
That's 3 for Wellington and 4 for Auckland (3 if you discount the NZFC match - obviously not a real match but more than Chch has received). 0 for Christchurch.
In my personal opinion, All Whites home matches should be rotated between the three cities. Christchurch has waited long enough for their turn, and I'd personally like to see the next home match played at AMI. This is despite my not living there and the fact that it'd be expensive for me to attend.
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next game should go to chch, but I would also like to see NZF consider giving Dunedin and Hamilton a shot at some of the Oceania qualifiers. THey both now have good stadiums and the one-off novelty of having the AWs in those towns would probably (IMO) secure a crowd at least the same size as what we'd get in the bigger markets, where we tend to get a wee bit fussy.
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next game should go to chch, but I would also like to see NZF consider giving Dunedin and Hamilton a shot at some of the Oceania qualifiers. THey both now have good stadiums and the one-off novelty of having the AWs in those towns would probably (IMO) secure a crowd at least the same size as what we'd get in the bigger markets, where we tend to get a wee bit fussy.
This. I think some of those smaller towns might surprise a lot of us with how many they would pull. The novelty factor alone would ensure the game would capture the local media. Throw in the travelling fans and you'll have yourself a good crowd.
While I think mid-week games are going to also get less people than weekend ones, there are no excuses for the die hard fans, they should be there regardless. In saying that if tonight's game was on Saturday I'd be there! We have to appreciate mid-weekers are a reality if we want to get more games played here.
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Was talking to Brockie last night. He reckoned they have a game lined up for March but wasn't sure who it was going to be. And he also heard there was talk of an annual Aussie game. 2ndBest2010-10-13 10:16:10
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I know that being JAFA scum my opinion can and should be discounted, but I'd support a serious friendly or qualifier going to the 'Tron. Waikato Stadium is just as pretty as NHS. I'd make the effort to go down and watch it, too.
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England and Scotland I seem to recall used to play annually until the late 1980's until that was stopped.
Wasn't that because of continual crowd trouble or something?
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I know that being JAFA scum my opinion can and should be discounted,
That term has a nice ring about it.
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It's a fair question, and as it's my opinion rather than a concrete fact there's nothing wrong with questioning it.
The last time Christchurch hosted the All Whites was in 2006 for a friendly against Malaysia. This drew 10K people when football wasn't yet trendy. Since then, it's been:
Auckland (Malaysia)
Wellington (Vanuatu)
Auckland (New Caledonia)
Wellinton (Bahrain)
Auckland (NZFC All-Stars)
Auckland (Honduras)
Wellington (Larissa Riquelme)
That's 3 for Wellington and 4 for Auckland (3 if you discount the NZFC match - obviously not a real match but more than Chch has received). 0 for Christchurch.
In my personal opinion, All Whites home matches should be rotated between the three cities. Christchurch has waited long enough for their turn, and I'd personally like to see the next home match played at AMI. This is despite my not living there and the fact that it'd be expensive for me to attend.
The last time Christchurch hosted the All Whites was in 2006 for a friendly against Malaysia. This drew 10K people when football wasn't yet trendy. Since then, it's been:
Auckland (Malaysia)
Wellington (Vanuatu)
Auckland (New Caledonia)
Wellinton (Bahrain)
Auckland (NZFC All-Stars)
Auckland (Honduras)
Wellington (Larissa Riquelme)
That's 3 for Wellington and 4 for Auckland (3 if you discount the NZFC match - obviously not a real match but more than Chch has received). 0 for Christchurch.
In my personal opinion, All Whites home matches should be rotated between the three cities. Christchurch has waited long enough for their turn, and I'd personally like to see the next home match played at AMI. This is despite my not living there and the fact that it'd be expensive for me to attend.
Another reason which surely trumps all the rest is it'll stop me whinging temporarily. Everyone wants that. It will also stop me sending abusive mail to NZF (I only sent one message and it wasn't abusive really, slightly over the top at a stretch).
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Sounds like Michael Glading has a Chch game on the agenda.
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spotted this in the article on stuff about playing the next game in Christchurch...
"Glading now turns his attention to the All Whites' 2011 programme and he hopes to schedule an away game in March before a home game in September. "
was talking about this over lunch when it was pointed out to me that there's some rugby games on in NZ next September so there might not be many ground options available.
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spotted this in the article on stuff about playing the next game in Christchurch...
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"Glading now turns his attention to the All Whites' 2011 programme and he hopes to schedule an away game in March before a home game in September. "
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was talking about this over lunch when it was pointed out to me that there's some rugby games on in NZ next September so there might not be many ground options available.
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IMHO, aboslutely highest priority has to go to Christchurch. NZF owes the city big time. China said they wanted to play two matches in NZ, so I'll say play a midweek match against China at North Harbour (to satisfy the worst contract ever) and the real match at AMI. If not, get Australia or a big team in Chch, and get a minor team in Auckland for aforementioned contract reasons (I'd rather give up friendly matches than have Auckland demand they host our qualification playoff for Brazil 2014).
If Mr Reid continues to tackle players in the manner which he undertook on Tuesday night, it will be a struggle to request ANY nation to visit for a game that isn't a FIFA World Cup Qualifier.
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