Good news is that based on tonight any CONCACAF team is going to underestimate us :) And I still have beer in the fridge
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All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams
All Whites V New Caledonia 22 March 7:35pm - Craft Bar or Four Kings
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It might have been a bit shit, but that was the first time since June 2010 that I've screamed like a little teenage girl over a footy match.
This.
Raging from about 80 mins.
Fist pumping at 93 mins. Jnr Jnr running around the lounge like it was 14 Nov 2009.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Wow...Herbert has really lost his coaching mojo.....that was terrible!
Terrible selections...too many players playing out position, the side looked unbalanced. We were completely toast in midfield. Killen is not a midfielder...anyone with half a football brain could see that. We were completely over run in midfield and Herbert did not react until about the 75th minute. It looked like no body new what the tactics were.....hoof it long or pass it. On that performance we have about a 5% chance of qualifying for the WC. A CONCACAFF side would have hammered us. I could not believe how easily they strolled through our midfield.
After about 60 minutes my wife said "we are playing like the Phoenix used to aren't we?" . This is easily the most talented group of players we have ever had and they look like rubbish.
The NC side were great in attack but their defense was woeful....with the talent we have we should have banged in 4 or 5 goals.
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Just watched the highlights, damn that was a bad foot to smeltz's head. I'm sure that would have been a red card plus a 2-3 match ban in Europe. That was so dangerous. I just don't understand how the ref missed that, was he not watching the game?
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most of ypu are correct. You cant play long ball with the likes of rojas, mcg, payne, kostas, hogg, ,brockie, bertos just passing game, moving and running, any under age amateur coach knows it,
One thing out of this game, is that Fallon should be back after this smetlz game, and my football knowledge tells that fallon could be a good target man for the likes of rojas and kosta barbarouses to work as a pivot for them,
wood and smeltz really played awful, and killen was out of place
what about bringing kris bright and chris james and andy boyens?
i think we have better players than bright. i like fallon, he's good on the deck too, but slow. james was quality, but he upset someone and apparently you cannot do that in NZ football
I never found out what James did, do you know?
We will never fully decide who has won the football.
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most of ypu are correct. You cant play long ball with the likes of rojas, mcg, payne, kostas, hogg, ,brockie, bertos just passing game, moving and running, any under age amateur coach knows it,
One thing out of this game, is that Fallon should be back after this smetlz game, and my football knowledge tells that fallon could be a good target man for the likes of rojas and kosta barbarouses to work as a pivot for them,
wood and smeltz really played awful, and killen was out of place
what about bringing kris bright and chris james and andy boyens?
i think we have better players than bright. i like fallon, he's good on the deck too, but slow. james was quality, but he upset someone and apparently you cannot do that in NZ football
I never found out what James did, do you know?
no, i don't. i just got told by someone who did know and they wouldn't tell me what! (frustrating; love the goss)
whatever it was it's a pity because he was going to be good for us
i do know that he got tubby, but he must have addressed that now that he's doing well in finland
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maybe he has too many tattoos
these days i reckon you'd get the boot for not having enough tatoos
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Four Kings went absolutely nuts when that goal went in. We just played out biggest Get out of Jail Free card ever.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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That is a shame, because I remember being impressed by him, wonder what happened, wonder if a new coach would bring him back..
We will never fully decide who has won the football.
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Four Kings went absolutely nuts when that goal went in. We just played out biggest Get out of Jail Free card ever.
No matter how shitty the tactics are, sometimes individual quality can get you through.
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Four Kings went absolutely nuts when that goal went in. We just played out biggest Get out of Jail Free card ever.
But our collection of yellow cards will mean that it will be very hard to pass Go and collect $200 (or 100 GBP).
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Sorry did we still want the Aussie.
I want you punks to say "Jeff you were right'
Jeff you were right.
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Stoked we have Strebre calling this! Was fearing a filthy ofc ref
LOLZ. (In fairness I was thinking the same thing!)
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in deep, NZ LOST ELLIOT , BROWN AND NELSEN 3 leaders , and Herbert was not able to find them replacements , NZ should go to the confederations cup, remember , and they lost against this very team last time , so it is not luck , they play good football with less resources
Bring back Fallon and agree more friendlies, the 4th in concacaf maybe Jamaica, they had some PREMIERSHIP players they drew 0-0 in Mexico against 120.000 people at the game
Honduras is strong at home they defeated canada 8-1 last round and now they won 2-1 USA,
PANAMA is a good side but they do not have depth of pool of players they have 4 or 5 key players
COSTA RICA is not good enough and for me is a one player team Bryan Ruiz
Any of this can be the rival, i would love to Mexico to be eliminated from the WC , because they feel they own the CONCACAF
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Not having seen one second of the game it is pretty hard to say a lot.
I picked a 5-0 win and was not even close and from most of the comments I take it we were not that flash.
Without being detrimental to New C, if we can't beat them with any conviction then I don't fancy our chances of getting to Brazil.
leggy, it was truly awful
any former international, which i believe you are one, would be ashamed
we were open on defence, had a non-existent transition and were bullied off the ball
worst of all, long ball all day, which is ok to a point, but with three targets up front, we never hit our targets and if we did, no one was running the right angles to make it effective
Thanks for that reg22, was following all the comments by the second and when it got to 1-1 I thought= here we go.
Obviously from all the comments I knew there were a lot of unhappy campers out there. A win is a win but I have to say that as the game was in Dunedin (cooler for N/C) and with the players we have I fully expected us to drill them.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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Not having seen one second of the game it is pretty hard to say a lot.
I picked a 5-0 win and was not even close and from most of the comments I take it we were not that flash.
Without being detrimental to New C, if we can't beat them with any conviction then I don't fancy our chances of getting to Brazil.
leggy, it was truly awful
any former international, which i believe you are one, would be ashamed
we were open on defence, had a non-existent transition and were bullied off the ball
worst of all, long ball all day, which is ok to a point, but with three targets up front, we never hit our targets and if we did, no one was running the right angles to make it effective
I dont know why people are complaing about the long ball. It was the right tactic against NC. An obvious consequence is that its ugly and a lot of them will go astray but the upside is you are getting the ball forward so often and so quickly that it shouldn't matter. The fact is we scored twice, hit the woodwork twice, were denied two dead set pens and missed two complete sitters. I was much more concerned about our defence. I don't think Killen had any impact (apart from scoring) but can't really see how selecting Payne or Keat would have made much diffference. And with Durante and Sigmund unavailable there weren't many other options.
How NC finished the game with eleven men is beyond me. Strebre probably should have issued them 6 or 7 yellows in the first half alone, and the tackle on Wood, and probably the one on Smeltz, could have easily been straight reds.
Add to that a few of our players having a bit of a mare. Rojas was awful tonight. Terrible. Nothing to with structure or tactics or team-mates running the wrong lines, he just had a bad night.
As someone said on the podcast the All Whites always seem to play to the level of the opposition.
A little bit of perspective please.
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New Cale played some bloody good football. Good movement, unlucky to lose
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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Is Herbert perhaps involved in the worldwide match fixing scandal?
my theory is that he's perfecting uselessness
i have spent a lot of time working in government and i've seen his type around...
Not uselessly perfect?
I may know one....
A fan is a fan.
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Not having seen one second of the game it is pretty hard to say a lot.
I picked a 5-0 win and was not even close and from most of the comments I take it we were not that flash.
Without being detrimental to New C, if we can't beat them with any conviction then I don't fancy our chances of getting to Brazil.
leggy, it was truly awful
any former international, which i believe you are one, would be ashamed
we were open on defence, had a non-existent transition and were bullied off the ball
worst of all, long ball all day, which is ok to a point, but with three targets up front, we never hit our targets and if we did, no one was running the right angles to make it effective
I dont know why people are complaing about the long ball. It was the right tactic against NC. An obvious consequence is that its ugly and a lot of them will go astray but the upside is you are getting the ball forward so often and so quickly that it shouldn't matter. The fact is we scored twice, hit the woodwork twice, were denied two dead set pens and missed two complete sitters. I was much more concerned about our defence. I don't think Killen had any impact (apart from scoring) but can't really see how selecting Payne or Keat would have made much diffference. And with Durante and Sigmund unavailable there weren't many other options.
How NC finished the game with eleven men is beyond me. Strebre probably should have issued them 6 or 7 yellows in the first half alone, and the tackle on Wood, and probably the one on Smeltz, could have easily been straight reds.
Add to that a few of our players having a bit of a mare. Rojas was awful tonight. Terrible. Nothing to with structure or tactics or team-mates running the wrong lines, he just had a bad night.
As someone said on the podcast the All Whites always seem to play to the level of the opposition.
A little bit of perspective please.
perspective tells me that despite winning (which i am delighted with) we were awful and that there are some serious problems with this team
i don't mind the long ball, see my earlier post about it not being executed properly, but aimless hoofs have no place
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The midfield was our big problem. and Maybe playing three at the back too. Killen was ineffective in midfield, but Payne looked downright costly, getting robbed of the ball outside our penalty area twice. Smeltzy is a shadow of himself at the moment. Woods did well bring down a lot of high ball, but then finding runners with it was the problem. Oh well, we survived
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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Quite the ending, but seriously, that was brutal stuff? Ricki was 30 seconds away from quitting 2 jobs in 2 months I reckon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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A shame we aren't able to watch the Solomons match, see if anything has improved.
We will never fully decide who has won the football.
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Not having seen one second of the game it is pretty hard to say a lot.
I picked a 5-0 win and was not even close and from most of the comments I take it we were not that flash.
Without being detrimental to New C, if we can't beat them with any conviction then I don't fancy our chances of getting to Brazil.
leggy, it was truly awful
any former international, which i believe you are one, would be ashamed
we were open on defence, had a non-existent transition and were bullied off the ball
worst of all, long ball all day, which is ok to a point, but with three targets up front, we never hit our targets and if we did, no one was running the right angles to make it effective
I dont know why people are complaing about the long ball. It was the right tactic against NC. An obvious consequence is that its ugly and a lot of them will go astray but the upside is you are getting the ball forward so often and so quickly that it shouldn't matter. The fact is we scored twice, hit the woodwork twice, were denied two dead set pens and missed two complete sitters. I was much more concerned about our defence. I don't think Killen had any impact (apart from scoring) but can't really see how selecting Payne or Keat would have made much diffference. And with Durante and Sigmund unavailable there weren't many other options.
How NC finished the game with eleven men is beyond me. Strebre probably should have issued them 6 or 7 yellows in the first half alone, and the tackle on Wood, and probably the one on Smeltz, could have easily been straight reds.
Add to that a few of our players having a bit of a mare. Rojas was awful tonight. Terrible. Nothing to with structure or tactics or team-mates running the wrong lines, he just had a bad night.
As someone said on the podcast the All Whites always seem to play to the level of the opposition.
A little bit of perspective please.
perspective tells me that despite winning (which i am delighted with) we were awful and that there are some serious problems with this team
i don't mind the long ball, see my earlier post about it not being executed properly, but aimless hoofs have no place
I say, again, SACK RICKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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I can't even remember who the opponents were but that all whites game in Christchurch where it somehow ended 3-0 a couple of months back was seriously one of the worst games I have EVER seen. At international level it was actually criminally bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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I think 10K should be the minimum for an all whites game, forget Dunedin in the future. Perhaps Hamilton?
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Looked at Facebook - wow! What a bunch of ref blaming crap. Man I hate that shit.
Auckland City FC
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I can't even remember who the opponents were but that all whites game in Christchurch where it somehow ended 3-0 a couple of months back was seriously one of the worst games I have EVER seen. At international level it was actually criminally bad.
Steve-O. Try raising the corners of your mouth and holding them there for 10 seconds.
Seriously. I can't imagine what it is like to be you.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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I dont know why people are complaing about the long ball. It was the right tactic against NC.
Clearly, since both our goals came from it, and the actual strikers were ballsing it up left and right. Smeltzy and Brockie didn't have good days at the office, being kicked in the head or not. Rojas was trying to skin 5 players and only getting through four. Two off the crossbar, one off the post, and that horrible clusterfuck in front of the NC goal at the end of the first half. But... the usual crowd of forumites have missed having a good Ricki-whinge so they're making up for lost time. Nothing to do with the actual game.
The best thing about NC was their passing. Crisp as. We couldn't counter that kind of play so hoofball was the only option. If there is a criticism of both the Nix and the AWs which might fairly be made of Ricki, is he doesn't coach good passing teams.
Oh yeah, and the Fox in the Viaduct was just going nuts upon nuts in the second half. I think Footpaul nearly had an aneurysm.
"As someone said on the podcast the All Whites always seem to play to the level of the opposition."
QFT. So let's hope we get a good team from CONCACAF.
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
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Looked at Facebook - wow! What a bunch of ref blaming crap. Man I hate that shit.
The Ref completely blew it and the reality is there were potentially two red cards/spot kicks which would have changed the entire game. I actually can't comprehend how the Shane Smeltz head-kick got ignored, it baffles me.
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it seems that other nations have found a hole in ricki's 343 formation. im not sure how tho, it seems flawless to me...
on another note
What a grandstand finish. now that was entertainment, it had blood, guts and glory(thankfully for us)
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological.
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it seems that other nations have found a hole in ricki's 343 formation. im not sure how tho, it seems flawless to me...
on another note
What a grandstand finish. now that was entertainment, it had blood, guts and glory(thankfully for us)
Grrrr Rrrivals??
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Looked at Facebook - wow! What a bunch of ref blaming crap. Man I hate that shit.
The Ref completely blew it and the reality is there were potentially two red cards/spot kicks which would have changed the entire game. I actually can't comprehend how the Shane Smeltz head-kick got ignored, it baffles me.
Sometimes shit goes your way and sometimes not. We won.
Auckland City FC
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Glad we won but that was an awful watch (excluding stoppage time). Can we give 4-4-2 a crack please with players playing their actual positions? Refereeing by the end was just making me laugh. And what was with only 4 added minutes? There were at least 2 long injury stoppages and plenty smaller.
Hoofball works sometimes and we do have a mostly tall team but it's all we were doing and flick-ons only work occasionally.
We have some good players, hope they can play better, maybe the odd pass or 2.
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I can't even remember who the opponents were but that all whites game in Christchurch where it somehow ended 3-0 a couple of months back was seriously one of the worst games I have EVER seen. At international level it was actually criminally bad.
Steve-O. Try raising the corners of your mouth and holding them there for 10 seconds.
Seriously. I can't imagine what it is like to be you.
Do you think it was a good performance? Tonight, and the game I refer to? Seriously, I am not too bothered if you guys win, but what did you think of those performances?
Note: yes, Scotland also garbage, however they would beat this current NZ side, which says more about NZ than a crap Scotland squad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Looked at Facebook - wow! What a bunch of ref blaming crap. Man I hate that shit.
The Ref completely blew it and the reality is there were potentially two red cards/spot kicks which would have changed the entire game. I actually can't comprehend how the Shane Smeltz head-kick got ignored, it baffles me.
Plus all this crap about the ref being Aussie. Just racist rubbish.
Auckland City FC
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It was nice meeting you IRL tonight Steve-O. No, seriously.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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A shame we aren't able to watch the Solomons match, see if anything has improved.
Can't get much worse.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Incidentally, was the Smeltz incident offside? That's the only thing that made sense?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Looked at Facebook - wow! What a bunch of ref blaming crap. Man I hate that shit.
The Ref completely blew it and the reality is there were potentially two red cards/spot kicks which would have changed the entire game. I actually can't comprehend how the Shane Smeltz head-kick got ignored, it baffles me.
Sometimes shit goes your way and sometimes not. We won.
No one is complaining we won. The complaints are just an extension of the endless stream of under-qualified refs we get. The reality is nothing will change if people do not voice their concerns. This campaign has shown us how close poor reffing has got us to missing out on world cup qualification, what if we are not so lucky next time? And you can say we are the better team and we should just win but that is a load of the BS we have the right to good refs.
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