How to improve the All Whites leading up to World Cup 2030?

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3 days ago
A topic worthy of it's own thread.

I'd go aiming to get Des Buckingham in as head coach, at some point in the cycle.
Failing that some hard nosed Aussie with international experience.

Then hoping a top drawer right back materialises, plus potenial excitement machine LBS becoming our own (if watered down) version of Irankunda. 

As many AWs as possible playing regularly in top European leagues.

Oh and NZF finding some quality international tourney that we can enter, for real meaningful tough competitive matches, that help simulate what a World Cup is actually like.
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2 days ago
agreed, a younger more prgressive coahc in terms of tactics, and player management...... we have the talent just need to use it wisely.
and NZF need to stop resting on the milions gained through just beating up on Oceania teams.
We must be competing and playing more often!

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The age of our players over the last 3 squads, apologies if I miss someone. 

GK- Max(32) Alex(23) woud(27) Nik(29) Gray(21)

Def- Libby(25) Old(23) Tyler(21) Boxall(37) Surman(22) George(25) Elliot(26) Nando(27) McGarry(28) Dalton(27) Smith(36) Payne(32) FDV(31) Bill (31)

Mid- Ryan(31) Marko(24) Bell(27) Rufer(30) OPP(27) Singh(27) Bayliss(23)

ATK- Wood(34) Kosta(36) Callum(27) Just(26) Waine(25) Jesse(23) Garbett(24) Andre(29) LBS(18)

I’ll let the brains trust debate who will or won’t be at the next WC but the nucleus of a good squad can be seen. I feel personally feel anyone 32+ will be struggling to make the next WC



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2 days ago
Obviously no Smith, Boxall or Kosta next time. Crocs, FDV, Payne, Billy T, Rufer, Thomas and ADJ I'd be fairly confident not being included by then.

Timeline isn't great for Woodsy, but in four years the vast majority of the squad from '26 will be 25-31, and having already had a WC under their belts. NZ Football need to throw everything at that next tournament.
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Jazzy Jeff wrote:
Obviously no Smith, Boxall or Kosta next time. Crocs, FDV, Payne, Billy T, Rufer, Thomas and ADJ I'd be fairly confident not being included by then.

Timeline isn't great for Woodsy, but in four years the vast majority of the squad from '26 will be 25-31, and having already had a WC under their belts. NZ Football need to throw everything at that next tournament.
pretty much agreed. Crocombe might in different circumstances however we have, at present anyway, a seeming wealth of young keeping talent
Rufer probably not, he isn't a starter and the competition are all younger than him. You would hope to see the emergence of some talented youngsters in the next 4 years
Same for Thomas
Wood maybe, if he is still scoring goals at a reasonable level like A league might. Not like we have a surfeit of quality international class strikers coming through
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The only thing hindering Wood is that he is 34 with quite a few injuries recently. Hopefully he can have a relatively injury free year or two. 
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Easy to forget how young some of our top players are tbh. Paulsen, Cacace, Bindon, Surman, Stamenic and Just could well be the spine of the team for the next two world cups, not just the next one. 
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Heres who I had down as likely retired by 2030, only four received meaningful minutes at the world cup. Crocombe a D Boxall you have ready made replacements already (AP and Bindon), Thomas was more a rotation player and as always the RB cupboard apears to be bare, hopefully we have some right footed Cacace or Old appear from nowhere in the next couple of years 

Keepers 
 Max Crocombe
 Oliver Sail

Defenders
 Michael Boxall
 Tommy Smith
 Storm Roux
 Bill Tuiloma
 Francis de Vries
 Tim Payne

Midfielders
 Ryan Thomas
 Alex Rufer

Forwards
 Kosta Barbarouses
 Andre de Jong
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Extremely speculative 2030 squad with ages in brackets and 2026 squad players bolded. Really need someone to come through in RB and striker, but in central defence and midfield, think we can start building some depth.

Keepers: Alex Paulsen (27), Michael Woud (31), Henry Gray (25)
RB: Callan Elliot (30), Xuan Loke (25)
CB: Finn Surman (26), Tyler Bindon (25), Luca Vicelich (21), George Stanger (29), Isaac Hughes (26)
LB: Libby Cacace (29), Ben Old (27)
DM/CM: Marko Stamenic (28), Joe Bell (31), Owen Parker-Price (31), Isa Prins (25), Jago Godden (26)
AM/Wings: Elijah Just (30), Matt Garbett (28), Lachlan Bayliss (27), Jesse Randall (27), Luke Brooke-Smith (22), Troy Putt (23)
CF: Chris Wood (38), Ben Waine (29), Stipe Ukich (23)
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As it stands for 2030 I'd be looking at a starting line-up of:

Alex Paulsen, Liberato Cacace, Tyler Bindon, Finn Surman, Callan Elliott, Joe Bell, Marko Stamenic, Matthew Garbett, Luke Brooke-Smith, Elijah Just, Ben Waine

And a bench of:

Henry Gray, Max Crocombe, Ben Old, Isaac Hughes, Nando Pijnaker, George Stanger, Matt Sheridan, Alex Rufer, Owen Parker-Price, Sarpreet Singh, Lachlan Bayliss, Callum McCowatt, Jesse Randall, Corban Piper & Chris Wood

Worth noting I've played this very safe, mostly keeping guys in the squad if they're not getting too old and picking replacements based on the best placed option (not necessarily the most promising, but with some emphasis of youth), with LBS the one exception. There's a decent few names on this bench and a couple in the starting line-up that could easily miss out.
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I wouldn’t be shocked if Kees Sims is the starting AWs keeper in 2030.

But hey 4 years seems a long way away right now
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Sims or Paulsen likely, I doubt Crocombe will even be in the squad going forward.

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3 at the back with Hughes or Stanger. 
Reform the wall! 

Dunno if I believe that, but too many goals headed in. 

Challenge Cacace. Maybe put him in the right. Not sure who’s guna be a goal scorer in 4 years time. 

We had international respect after Iran, and we flushed it. Or we just weren’t good enough. 

Not sure how the attacking players will develop. Hope Piper becomes a monster. Hope to see someone like Ott emerge. I always thought we’d see Watto return. There’s a lot of players who could have done a bit more up a level. Campbell Banks I watched one day and was just staggered at his ball control.

Anyway. 4 more years of …?


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Unless we have three keepers all around the same level, I suspect Crocombe will make it one WC as the 3rd choice keeper as a sort of vibes man/experienced head and probably immediately retire after the tournament.

Keepers can hold out longer that other positions and we'll have two fairly young keepers (Sims/Gray/Paulsen), so you'd want more an experienced 3rd choice.
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Regarding strikers, how much longer has Keegan Kelly got to go at college in the states?

Hope something happens with him after he’s finished.


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It might be hard to get an invitation to the 2027 Gold Cup as it seems Saudi Arabia have already been invited (they were invited to both 2025 and 2027 at the same time) and Concacaf haven't had more than 1 invitee participate since 2005 - but 2029 could be a possibility, and would be good to get competitive fixtures a year out from the next world cup
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Riley Bidois a future option perhaps... How does USL compare with A League? 
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Richcraft1 wrote:
Riley Bidois a future option perhaps... How does USL compare with A League? 
More Kiwi fans see you in the A league! 


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I wanted to compare 2022 vs 2026 of players outside the A-League in the 19-25 range of where they were and see which group looked more promising heading into their next world cup.

2022:
Singh 23 (J. Regensburg, Bundesliga. 2), Stamenic 20 (Copenhagen, Superliga) Cacace 21 (Empoli, Serie A), Just 22 (AC Horsens, Danish 2nd Div), Bell 23 (Brondby, Superliga), McCowatt 23 (FC Helsingor, Danish 2nd Div)

2026:
Ben Old 23 (St. Etienne, Ligue 2), Paulsen 23 (Bournemouth, Premier League), Bindon 21 (Nottingham Forest, Premier League), Surman (Portland, MLS), Stamenic 24 (Nottingham Forest, Premier League), Waine 25 (Port Vale, League One) Randall 23 (Dundee, Scottish Premiership)

Pretty similar amount of players both times, 2026 definitely are at better quality clubs but that is inflated by 3 of them being at prem clubs likely to be loaned out. But yeah I'd say in theory we should have a stronger squad next World Cup, we'd still need the age group from 17-21 to produce some players like Old, Surman, Bindon and Paulsen we've seen this cycle to definitely have a stronger squad.
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Half a Pint wrote:
It might be hard to get an invitation to the 2027 Gold Cup as it seems Saudi Arabia have already been invited (they were invited to both 2025 and 2027 at the same time) and Concacaf haven't had more than 1 invitee participate since 2005 - but 2029 could be a possibility, and would be good to get competitive fixtures a year out from the next world cup
There is talk about expanding next year’s Gold Cup to 24 teams, so possibly 8-9 invitation sides
But just talk at this stage
https://x.com/concacafedgar/status/2040181619349184819?s=46

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Darren Bazeley wants to continue as All Whites coach despite them failing to achieve their goal of making the knockout stages at the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

But NZ Football is set to wait until November and the completion of an external review before making any decisions, with Bazeley contracted through the next two international windows.

The All Whites’ World Cup campaign ended on a sour note in Vancouver on Friday night (Saturday afternoon NZ time) when they were beaten 5-1 by world No 10 Belgium, who proved a class above.

Bazeley and his players were left lamenting their failure to take the opportunities they had when they led before drawing 2-2 with Iran and losing 3-1 to Egypt in their first two matches, but insisted they were proud to have come to North America and tried to play attacking football, rather than taking a defence-first approach.

Speaking at BC Place after the Belgium defeat, Bazeley said: “I’d like to continue, for sure”.

“It’s been a great campaign. I’ve loved every minute of our experience. Being here at a World Cup has been amazing. I think we’ve had some moments where we’ve started to show the type of team we can be. We haven’t got the win that we wanted, but it was always going to be tough.”

Bazeley said the quality of the environment he had helped foster over the past three-and-a-half years could be seen in how players readily made a big step up in the Iran and Egypt matches.

“I love this job. I love working with these boys. I’m so proud of these guys. If you see the culture and the environment that they’ve got together, that we’ve worked to build as a staff … we’ve created a really good environment for them to hopefully go out and perform.

“Take the game against Iran and the first half of the game against Egypt – I think they were our best performances in four years, so for us to do that at the World Cup is testament to [the fact] that it’s a good space for our players to be able to perform here, while still not getting the win that we wanted – I do understand that, but they'll be better for it. They’re a great set of lads. I’d love to help.”

Chief executive Andrew Pragnell told Stuff the All Whites’ campaign had “been a bit of an emotional rollercoaster”.

“Right now, obviously, there's a sense of disappointment – and so there should be – around what should have been and could have been. As we step back from the emotion, there are a lot of bright spots. We played some good football, we scored a lot of goals, Eli Just had some incredible breakout performances.

“We'll take some heart from some of that, but ultimately the day after the last game, it's just it is a feeling of disappointment around what could have been. The key from these things is that you learn from them and that you come back stronger.”

Pragnell wouldn’t be drawn on where he felt the All Whites fell short ahead of the review of their campaign.

“I think it would be unfair of me to pass judgement on that at this point in time. We want to do these things carefully and debrief this properly.
“Clearly the first two games were major opportunities for us. The third was always going to be a steeper hill.”

While the All Whites had not achieved their stated goals, that would not be the sole factor in determining the coaching staff’s future.
“Nothing's black and white, for sure,” Pragnell said. “Turning over each stone to ensure that we continue to get better is the most important thing.”

One of the big what-ifs after any World Cup is whether the selection and substitution calls were right and there has already been plenty of debate about those of Bazeley and his staff, with the choice of goalkeeper, the choice of centre backs and the continued backing of right back Tim Payne and attacking midfielder Sarpreet Singh among the topics.

Speaking the afternoon following the Belgium match, Bazeley was in a soul-searching mood in that regard.

“Hindsight is a great thing. It goes through my head all the time – I'm in that stage at the moment of bargaining with myself around this whole thing, what if I'd done that, what if we'd done that, what if we'd done that – there's so many scenarios, but what you don't know is had we done something – what would the outcome have been?. Had we made that change – what would the outcome have been? That's not something that we'll ever know.
“It definitely lingers in my head – selections, decisions, substitutions, tactics, everything that goes into the whole process. Everything is done with a meaning, everything's [part of] a plan.

“We were very close to it working out perfectly and then there's these moments. I've said it for a long time – ultimately, football is all about moments. We need to defend a set play. We need to defend a cross. Had we done that in certain moments of this tournament, we'd probably be going to Dallas [to play Australia in the round of 32].” 
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HattyCW wrote:
Regarding strikers, how much longer has Keegan Kelly got to go at college in the states?

Hope something happens with him after he’s finished

 
Looks like he’s got 2 more years, this year and next, season kicks off in August.
This is his season wrap from 2025
2025:
Played in 18 matches, starting 17 as Denver’s striker…Missed matches in September when he represented New Zealand at the FIFA U-20 World Cup in Chile, the only college player in the country to play in the U-20 World Cup this season…Didn’t score in his first 13 appearances before scoring five goals in a three-match stretch…Scored a late equalizer in a 1-1 draw at St. Thomas on November 5, clinching Denver a share of the Summit League regular season title…Scored a hat trick in Denver’s Summit League Semifinal win on November 9 against Oral Roberts…Scored the opener in Denver’s 4-2 Summit League Final win over Kansas City on November 15…The hat trick was the 15th in Denver’s Division I history…The hat trick was the fifth-fastest in program history between goals 1 and 3 of a hat trick (21:18).
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I'm going to take a broader approach to things here.

Seeing as we can't get regular competitive fixtures at senior level outside of Nations Cup and World Cup qualifying, I'd suggest a greater focus on the age grades with the U16's/17's and the U19's/20's. 

My rationale here is simple - These world cups are played annually (U17s) and biennially (U20s) - Let's also make no bones about it, we will be going to these tournaments on every occasion and a failure to do so should be a sackable offence. 

More qualifying games and more competitive games, not to mention the build up friendly games/fifa youth series which seems to be a thing now, they represent the greatest chance for the up and coming crop to get meaningful games in a competitive environment. All of this will be on a far more regular basis than what our senior team will ever get in the foreseeable future. 

I have to say here that I have a special interest in the U17s as in my opinion it should almost be a full time programme given the nature of the calendar. I also enjoy seeing the new unknown names from around the globe coming through when squads are named. It should also be mentioned that a lot of our most notable (as well as a few next off the block picks) senior players have featured at one or even both those age grade levels - Paulsen, Gray, Sims, Old, Garbett, Stamenic, Surman, Bell, Singh, Waine, McCowatt right through the newer lads Putt, Brooke-Smith, DuPont, Lienard, Ukich and Walker to name a few (apologies to those I've missed!).

As for the All Whites in general, under Bazeley we have improved (not necessarily results wise) but as a group I don't think he's the one to take us to the next level - To me that just feels like a step too far. Thanks for the service and everything, but we need to see who else is out there. Easier said than done of course, but we should look to be more ambitious in our next appointment. God knows who that will be, but it feels like a shake up is needed. 

Someone suggested we need someone hard nosed, but I'd simply suggest someone with a decent background and a fresh set of ideas. There is already a good base in place to work from looking towards 2030, and now is the time we should be looking at refreshing and bringing through guys for the next generation to supplement to likes of Paulsen, Old, Just, Surman, Bindon, Cacace etc etc who will *touch wood* be in the prime/approaching the primes of their careers in four years time.

As for positions of concern going forward - Striker and Right Back are glaring big holes to fill/fix. Not an easy fix to find the next Chris Wood, but he's not going to be around forever either and there needs to be some talk about who is likely to fill that role (good luck!) even going down the path of possibly changing the way we play - Do we play wider and drill in low crosses? Do we look to move to a more agile forward line that looks to play in behind and exploit space even? Questions aplenty on that front...

And of course right back... Our Achilles since the dawn of time it seems. I have no suggestion on that front in terms of personnel but the pool looks very thin compared to other positions in the squad. 

All said and done how good would it be to see the emergence of someone like another Elijah Just - tricky, technical, forward thinking and just a joy to watch all round. I'm hoping we can unearth a gem or two, or at least blood a few at international level and see who emerges or even shows signs of thriving in the international environment. That's what I'm looking forward to!

Whenever our next senior squad is named, I just hope it's a look to the future. I won't name names, but a few fresh faces would he nice to see.

Finally to my last point - No more 'cultural architects' in an All Whites squad ever again. 

Thanks for reading.




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 Interesting stat around Chris Wood going into next cycle - since Feb 2022 he has 17 goals in 32 caps.

Splitting them up - he has 14 goals in 9 caps vs OFC teams (every 42.7 minutes) and 3 goals in 23 versus non-OFC teams.

Those three goals being: penalty vs DR Congo, goal against 136-ranked Malaysia and the other being the goal at Mt Smart vs Aus (open play goal every 675 minutes/7.5 games). 
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If Wood is around in 4 years time, he'll be likely to be used as a super sub, sure it's possibly that he carries on at a high level for the next four years - his last few years have been his best goal haul in the EPL, so why not. Assuming he keeps himself fit and avoids any injuries then there's no reason he cant do what Messi or Ronaldo have done.

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A-League Men: Generally regarded as an English League One (Tier 3) or high League Two standard. The best clubs at their peak can push into the lower English Championship. 
USL Championship: Viewed as a mid-to-lower English League Two (Tier 4) or top National League (Tier 5) standard. It is officially sanctioned as a Division II league in the United States. 

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Southernix wrote:
As it stands for 2030 I'd be looking at a starting line-up of:

Alex Paulsen, Liberato Cacace, Tyler Bindon, Finn Surman, Callan Elliott, Joe Bell, Marko Stamenic, Matthew Garbett, Luke Brooke-Smith, Elijah Just, Ben Waine

And a bench of:

Henry Gray, Max Crocombe, Ben Old, Isaac Hughes, Nando Pijnaker, George Stanger, Matt Sheridan, Alex Rufer, Owen Parker-Price, Sarpreet Singh, Lachlan Bayliss, Callum McCowatt, Jesse Randall, Corban Piper & Chris Wood

Worth noting I've played this very safe, mostly keeping guys in the squad if they're not getting too old and picking replacements based on the best placed option (not necessarily the most promising, but with some emphasis of youth), with LBS the one exception. There's a decent few names on this bench and a couple in the starting line-up that could easily miss out.
Lots of concern about the heat at this WC, but 2030 could be even worse. Morocco, Portugal and Spain. Look at the heatwave in Europe at the moment, temps approaching the 40s in many parts.

Also the football stadiums in Portugal and Spain are nearly all open. No temp controlled domes there.

Obviously it's still all very raw at the moment for 34 yr old Wood (he'll be gutted he couldn't break his WC duck), but is interesting he's a bit more downbeat about his body and now playing through to 2030. I think realistically given the summer heat, pace and intensity of a WC, he's coming off the bench if playing in 4 years.

Though 40 yr old Edin Dzeko has started Bosnia's last 2 matches (64 mins each time).
Dzeko only played 22 matches the last club season - 11 at Fiorentina in Serie A and then 11 on loan at Schalke in 2. Bundesliga. So that low playing load has likely helped him.

Sorry but if Waine is our starting striker in 4 years, it will be a bit bleak. He's poor at that hold up play stuff that Wood does so very well, and the AWs will likely need again in 2030. Waineo might improve, but after his 3-4 seasons now in the UK hurly burly it's hard to see a big leap forward.

Gonna be fascinating watch Socceroos v Egypt. How will Poppa set up the Aussies, when Egypt maybe sans Salah.

Against Paraguay it was a back 3/5, with Bos shoehorned into RWB (Socceroos with normal right full backs Miller & Italiano out) and Behich in at LWB. Then Irankunda as sort of a false 9, evn though Poppa has a couple of reasonable strikers to pick from. Toure with 9 goals in 11 Championship games at Norwich, and Yengi 3 goals at Machida (currently 3rd in the J League) recent/current club seasons.

Bos (now one of the Socceroo's best players) and Behich with the licence to bomb up and down, helping out physical Nestory who was mostly isolated but working his arse off. Bos with some of the Aussie's best scoring chances. He combined very well down the right with classy Cristian Volpato on starting debut.

A conservative, structured but effective approach. Priority was control of the midfield and overload in transition. No nonsense O'Neill and Irvine heavily controlled the centre of the pitch, winnning the 50/50s. 

Yes helped that Paraguay knew a draw would maybe get them through as well (if not guaranteed it would), so they were pretty conservative themselves. Again the Egypt match will be bloody interesting, different in that a 0-0 draw can't be the end result.

But watching the Aus-Para match I just thought that come 2030, a Cacace switch to the right flank, Old at LB/LWB and a 22 yr old LBS up front may not be a bad setup. Bell and Stamenic with midfield control.

No pressure chunky LBS to kick on the next few years!!

Anyway time to experiment the next few windows. Both personnel and structure. 
I'd give the Woodsman a 6-12 break month from the AWs even, to look at other options.
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Richcraft1 wrote:
Riley Bidois a future option perhaps... How does USL compare with A League? 
Below, but not by as much as people would think. From someone who watches a lot of it, as well as the MLS Next Pro & MLS.

Needs to keep up his good form if he wants to get on the radar, and probably needs a real break out season to get in the picture in all honesty.


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To state the bleeding obvious, New Zealand starts the 2030 World Cup cycle with 2 A-league teams, 2 OFC teams (and hopefully 3 shortly...), compared with one professional team at the end of 2022. That's a lot more pathways to uncover and develop talent between now and 2030. Overall the professional playing pool to pick a squad from will grow substantially.
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Think trying to predict a starting 11 at the next world cup its like trying to poke holes in water. Far to many factors form,injuries etc. As many are aware we have some very talented youth footballers currently and it would be no surprise to see some make the step up sooner than anticipated.
Another thing that could make it hard predicting who might be in the team, is if we  continue to get our easy path to the WC are players who  may decide because they are eligibile we are their only chance of playing at a World Cup so declare their availability for selection.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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Perhaps I’m jumping the gun here but I think the National League returning to a proper nationwide season is going to be instrumental in developing our talent.

All the talent that’s been dispersed the last few years is going to get condensed into a higher quality league that should in theory accelerate player development and hopefully make it easier for domestic players to make the jump up to the A-League, with the OPL helping build that pathway further.

A lot of current All Whites played in  that old 10-team format. Perhaps it’s too early to judge the crop of players after that which have come through the conference system but I think the impacts the new national league could have shouldn’t be overlooked.

But it might be too early to see the effects in 2030.
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As long as he’s still keen to play for us, shouldn’t forget that Gibson is another potential striker option.

Made some decent progress at the Jets and hopefully continues to grow at Macarthur.
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Skyzaid wrote:
Perhaps I’m jumping the gun here but I think the National League returning to a proper nationwide season is going to be instrumental in developing our talent.

All the talent that’s been dispersed the last few years is going to get condensed into a higher quality league that should in theory accelerate player development and hopefully make it easier for domestic players to make the jump up to the A-League, with the OPL helping build that pathway further.

A lot of current All Whites played in  that old 10-team format. Perhaps it’s too early to judge the crop of players after that which have come through the conference system but I think the impacts the new national league could have shouldn’t be overlooked.

But it might be too early to see the effects in 2030.
Little bit meh on that. I'd say most of the WC starters played little to no National League. 

That Ole Academy/Wests cohort had one summer together in the old Handy Prem at Eastern Suburbs. Sure it helped, but most of their development happened at Ole/Wests.

I guess yes it will be beneficial having the Weenix and AFC II youngsters play tough games week in, week out through the winter. That's where a big number of future AWs will come from, the Phoenix and AFC pathways.

But you will also get your Garbetts, Stamenics, Wouds, Woods, Bells, Boxalls heading off to Europe/US as teenagers having played next to nil National League.
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Wishlist for the 2030 World Cup Campaign
  • More than one relevant player with previous World Cup experience

  • More than one player in the squad with UEFA Champions League experience

  • More than one player regularly playing in a top-five European league

  • More pace and athleticism among the attacking positions

  • Some actual game-changing depth on the bench

  • Anyone who can go 1v1 against a World Cup level defender

  • Much more big game experience for the All Whites as a team (not sure how we’re supposed to get it but maybe they’ll let us be a guest at Copa America or the Gold Cup or some equivalent comp in Asia) 
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I'd add to that list to have a manager/coach with better global experience.

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Re-Woodsies’ injury he stated that he won’t ever fully recover from his knee issue that kept him out and lead to surgery. Even after his playing days he won’t shake it. 

He has said he’d return to the A league (pre-injury) , but also he has a Nottingham daughter and wife. If he’s put a bit of money away and it’s been invested well he probably doesn’t have to keep thrashing his body if he wants to retire. 

That said I thought coming into the World Cup he looked just as fit as I’ve seen him. I watched a skinny Nottingham forward chasing a through ball at high pace and went to check who it was, when they cut to a close up of our captain. 

If he stays around a PL team with PL facilities, then he’s going to get better conditioning outcomes. I guess what we don’t see is how much effort it has cost him as it all depends if he has the motivation to keep going. 


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He seems to clearly love playing in the EPL, and his 20 goal haul in the 2024/25 season no doubt made him feel he could go a few more seasons.

100 goals (he's on 92) is clearly a target. It's an exclusive club of 35 currently.
Would he still be driven playing in the Championship or A League? All that hard pre season work to keep fit, but away from the EPL fame.

Who knows for sure. Nelsen described Spurs getting a rare win over Chelsea, and him just sitting in the dressing room feeling nothing, whilst his team mates were joyous. Nellie just didn't feel it anymore and pretty much retired on the spot. Though I think by then his knee(s) were pretty much bone on bone, and as a CB you don't get that regular thrill out of scoring an EPL goal like the Woodsman will get.

However we have also basically seen it with Williamson & Stokes in the cricket. You can just wake up one day and say that's enough.

Best to give Wood a spell from the AWs I reckon, and work on developing other upfront options for 2030.
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On the managerial front, I reckon NZ's best hope is to keep someone like Baz on for three years and hope we can snag a top level coach who wants to work for nothing to either restart their career, say they managed at a world cup, or needs citizenship to retire in Queenstown.
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