New Zealand U-23s - Quali Whites

Did Ricki as NC's coach go to this secret meeting?

Did he give NZF a heads up?

Read this here and tell me which of those 4 rules qualifies Tommy Smith yet he got clearance in 2010 after this 2008 rule.

Stupid... two comps being played in unison... two different sets of rules and massive amounts of shark

Right and that would explain why Roux is eligible (assuming he got citizenship before 18). The rules seem a bit stupid regardless. It also seems incredibly that Wynne has been allowed to get this far in his playing career.

None of them...

This might be the thing here:

So that could be how Roux and Smith avoided it. Maybe Wynne never submitted the written request?

It looks like PNG wants the whole tournament to be played again, or at least their match against NZ

It would be great if someone whom knows better than us keyboard detectives could tell us how Roux and Smith are eligible cause that would clear it up and add a piece to the Wynne puzzle. GGW worked at OFC (as did Holloway) perhaps he may know more?

Wow, just wow! What a mess.

There is a slightly different rule in the UK, as England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland don't use the residency rule. If a player was in full time education for 5 years in a particular country, he would then be eligible for that national team (Jordan Rhodes of Scotland is one example).

That's why Mikel Arteta couldn't play for England.

Could this rule be used for Wynne? 

Maybe this is what happens when you take a stand against Blatter.

Why didn't Vana -utu protest against Wynne before the game. If they had the info why did they wait till they had accepted our team sheet - played the game and lost - then cried foul. Any team that looks at our squad and has a problem needs to let us know at the start of the tournament - otherwise we lost every game and another team should have been in the semi. It is a joke to complain now - or how about we play the final - then get kicked out - another joke.

Key statement here:

""To have two of our members in an Olympic football qualifier for us as a Council is huge."

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1028626/the...

This reads as 'we don't give a shark that there was confusion over the rules, because it's worked out dandy for us'

Fifa rules state that a player born in another territory must live in his adopted nation for five years after reaching the age of 18 to be deemed eligible.

Surely Storm Roux and Kip Colvey don't fit with this either?

If Wynn applied to FIFA in the past to change the Association for which he can play international matches, then I think NZF will win an appeal:

http://www.fifa.com/mm/Document/AFFederation/Generic/02/58/14/48/2015FIFAStatutesEN_Neutral.pdf

p. 65

8 Change of Association

1.

If a Player has more than one nationality, or if a Player acquires a new

nationality, or if a Player is eligible to play for several representative teams

due to nationality, he may, only once, request to change the Association for

which he is eligible to play international matches to the Association of another

Country of which he holds nationality, subject to the following conditions:

a) He has not played a match (either in full or in part) in an Official

Competition at “A” international level for his current Association, and at

the time of his first full or partial appearance in an international match

in an Official Competition for his current Association, he already had the

nationality of the representative team for which he wishes to play.

b) He is not permitted to play for his new Association in any competition in

which he has already played for his previous Association.

Whats with the Vanuatu coach hanging up on One News? Doesn't want to explain things.....mhmmm....

It is going to be interesting to see what FIFA do about this...and the Olympic Committee as it affects both organisations.

Frankly, Vanuatu Should be ashamed. Lose with honour, not be shown up like a kid taking his ball from the game because he didn't get his own way.

What exactly happened there? Something smells a bit funny with all of this. There is no way that Vanuatu immediately delved into the FIFA statutes/Pacfic Games rules after losing. Someone at OFC had to be sitting on this for a few days.

That was hilarious!

Reporter: did you talk to your manager about the protest?

Coach: Ummmmmmmm [beep, beep, beep, beep].

If Wynne is actually ineligible then what they are doing is not wrong, is just NZ fault. The problem would be if this is just a misunderstanding between FIFA and Pacific Games rules'

Which it seems to be - doesn't seem likely that Wynne has got this far without anyone noticing.

Im intrigued. If it was a fault of NZ with Wynne not being eligible, he would straight up tell us his point of view on the issue. But the fact he refused to say anything and just hung up. Something is definitely fishy there.  

There is a lot on this forum about Wynne's eligibility, but I am just interested in why the Vanuatu coach didn't want to say anything. 

Would be a fair solution so long as Wynne did not play just to make it clear. Unless of course, he really is eligible to play for us.

Conspiracy theory: OFC announce at 7pm NZT that NZ can in fact play in the final. NZ ask for postponement due to circumstances, OFC declare that NZ have forfeited.

Are you sure? All I want is to know the truth.

Probably because NZF is challenging the decision so it's pretty much 'everything you say can and will be use against you'

I have a feeling that any rules peculiar to the Pacific Games that are at variance with other Olympic Football qualifying tournaments will be found not applicable on appeal.

I doubt that the International Court of Arbitration in Sport will find it acceptable that one qualifying tournament has rules at variance with other Olympic Football Qualifying tournaments

Even if Pacific Games rules applied for NZ, the Oly Whites were there to qualify for Rio. How can a team be disqualified for breaking a rule of a tournament is not technically playing? If we're actually playing the Pacific Games, then allow us to play the final stage for the medals