YF/WN would do an infinitely better job of running NZ football than NZ Football.
And we all know their levels of ineptitude.
OFC Nations Cup 2016 Final - vs PNG | Sat 11 Jun | 6pm | SS Popup
Mistakes happen. They are sometimes inevitasble and unpreventable, individuals at fault, systems errors, broken fax machines/dodgy carrier pigeons, whatever.
What is so frustrating about NZF is that they fail to learn from any mistake or error. There is an absolute lack of accountability/responsibility/transparency. I think this is what most people are sick of.
If they just put there hands up, admitted fault when they were in the wrong and moved on learning from it then most of us would be happy with that.
What is the mistake here ?? You didnt get to hear about it when you expected to ??
Mistakes happen. They are sometimes inevitasble and unpreventable, individuals at fault, systems errors, broken fax machines/dodgy carrier pigeons, whatever.
What is so frustrating about NZF is that they fail to learn from any mistake or error. There is an absolute lack of accountability/responsibility/transparency. I think this is what most people are sick of.
If they just put there hands up, admitted fault when they were in the wrong and moved on learning from it then most of us would be happy with that.
I would agree with the above. Maybe I am just inattentive, but can't really say I know what NZF "mission" and "plans" are, or what is important. It is a bit of an astronomical black hole in terms of transparency.
I thought the Oceania Nations Cup should be a prime item on their website. It is not, while 6-year olds league is. Then I finally realised: 6-year olds' football will always be here for NZF, so it is a safe bet. In contrast, they are probably afraid to show much enthusiasm about AWs playing in the OFC tournament in case the NZF website backs us to win and then we do a Honiara and they will have an egg on their faces for showing they cared. Kindergarten stuff, really.
Mistakes happen. They are sometimes inevitasble and unpreventable, individuals at fault, systems errors, broken fax machines/dodgy carrier pigeons, whatever.
What is so frustrating about NZF is that they fail to learn from any mistake or error. There is an absolute lack of accountability/responsibility/transparency. I think this is what most people are sick of.
If they just put there hands up, admitted fault when they were in the wrong and moved on learning from it then most of us would be happy with that.
I find myself in the uncomfortable position of agree with you Doc D.
Piney said it's for his sisters wedding (Unconfirmed)
He should've flown sister & groom & guests to PNG for the bloody wedding.
I have a story relating to PNG and a wedding.
At my cousin's wedding in Christchurch in the 1990's, one of her best friends flew in from PNG where she and her husband worked at the NZ High Commission.
She told me that they have the death penalty in PNG and to keep the small number of those still with a preference for "the ultimate food taboo" satisfied, the PNG authorities sometimes deliver the corpses of executed criminals to remote locations for "collection".
The authorities only arrest suspected cannibals when they murder people and then eat them as confirmed by this 2012 Associated Press report which quotes a regional police commander:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australi...
It should be noted that cannibalism is extremely rare now and only occasionally practiced in very remote locations.
We had a family on our street in Nelson when I was a kid in the 1970's who went off to PNG as missionaries and got murdered.
A Dutch missionary was killed and eaten in 1992, as I read in National Geographic magazine recently.
I have a story relating to PNG and a wedding.
It said that it was organised 12 months ago, the tournament was extended wasn't it with more days between games? They probably organised it as best they could thinking that the timing would work out well between the nations cup and Leads preseason.
Seems like this is confirmed.
"Hudson said Wood's sister changed the date to accommodate the final, but a change of the final date has left them stuck between a rock and a hard place."
http://www.radiosport.co.nz/sport-news/football/wood-supported-in-all-whites-departure/
So blame OFC shenanigans
What pubs in Wellington would be showing this, since theirs a rugby game on I think?
Four Kings is the best bet.
FOR FUCK SAKE ITS PNG!!!!!!
NO EXCUSES!!!!
https://twitter.com/NZ_Football/status/74114011881...
It's LIVE! OFC press conference for tomorrow's final.
Four Kings is the best bet.
sweet.
was thinking about whether these p.i countries have been hard to beat in the past because I'm sure I saw the all whites struggle to beat Fiji in napier in the 90's?
Who will lift it tomorrow?
Will it be a proffesional footballer lifting it? Or will it be a factory worker who doesnt even own a football?
Mistakes happen. They are sometimes inevitasble and unpreventable, individuals at fault, systems errors, broken fax machines/dodgy carrier pigeons, whatever.
What is so frustrating about NZF is that they fail to learn from any mistake or error. There is an absolute lack of accountability/responsibility/transparency. I think this is what most people are sick of.
If they just put there hands up, admitted fault when they were in the wrong and moved on learning from it then most of us would be happy with that.
I find myself in the uncomfortable position of agree with you Doc D.
you would be in the minority. However, every once in awhile I spout some sense among the dribble and general player slagging. May need to clean up my act
Will it be a proffesional footballer lifting it? Or will it be a factory worker who doesnt even own a football?
That's a bit extreme buddy. Had a good look at all of the occupations of each of the squads have you?
When you can't spell professional...
When you can't spell professional...
Some comments on here are borderline racist. They may come from developing countries with limited resources but they are obviously dedicated to the game, the sacrifices that players in the Pacific Islands make to play sport is much higher than us. So please give them some respect.
Um ryan i was referring to brettdales spelling so maybe dont rush to post eh
Um ryan i was referring to brettdales spelling so maybe dont rush to post eh
I could be wrong, but I think he was quoting to agree with you.
Um ryan i was referring to brettdales spelling so maybe dont rush to post eh
I could be wrong, but I think he was quoting to agree with you.
Some comments on here are borderline racist. They may come from developing countries with limited resources but they are obviously dedicated to the game, the sacrifices that players in the Pacific Islands make to play sport is much higher than us. So please give them some respect.
The PNG players may well work in factories, some of them; but footballs are cheap and plentiful.
You've got to say, Rory is looking in peak condition. Ending his career on a high.
We should be worried.
We have played maybe 45 minutes of good football total in 4 games and are against a team on a high, on a good run and playing in front of their home support.
Hudson selections and tactics have been wanting throughout and he seems out of his depth.
The players picked look confused and unable to play to a plan through a lack of technique and experience.
Even at our best, we may not be good enough based on recent results and form.
I hope we win, but I wont be surprised if we lost... and I HATE saying that!
Will it be a proffesional footballer lifting it? Or will it be a factory worker who doesnt even own a football?
That's a bit extreme buddy. Had a good look at all of the occupations of each of the squads have you?
Yes, not one player in the PNG squad, plays outside PNG. I'm kinda guessing the PNG soccer league, isnt of a high
standard, and the players all have full time jobs.
There must be changes tomorrow, 3 enforce included Wood not in the squad, can't play all long balls since we won't have two 6ft3 center forward up front, perhaps a bit more on the ground finally?
So Hudson has played 5-3-2 in all the games as best I can tell. Is now perhaps the time to push the boat out and change formation? Loosing Themi might mean it's worthy of consideration.
Consider this 4-2-3-1:
Fallon
Kosta McG Patterson
TAH-W Tuiloma
Colvey Adams Brotherton Boxall
Marinovic
When you can't spell professional...
Some comments on here are borderline racist. They may come from developing countries with limited resources but they are obviously dedicated to the game, the sacrifices that players in the Pacific Islands make to play sport is much higher than us. So please give them some respect.
Their only league is semi professional, not one player plays outside PNG. There is a reason they're ranked 160th in the world. According to this video, to be a club in their soccer competition, they must have the ability to have their own home ground, within three year of inclusion.
In saying this, they seem to get a decent crowd to their club games.
Club rules
Club comp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKW_vFydSP0
And Rierra was a paramedic, what's your point?
We should best them because we are professional. but then we also play semi professional players for some reason, our players haven't been performing, our strategy hasn't been working, we aren't used to the conditions, they have home ground advantage, we're the big and evil team and minnows always lift for those games, and it's football - upsets happen.
And Rierra was a paramedic, what's your point?
We should best them because we are professional. but then we also play semi professional players for some reason, our players haven't been performing, our strategy hasn't been working, we aren't used to the conditions, they have home ground advantage, we're the big and evil team and minnows always lift for those games, and it's football - upsets happen.
I know upsets happen. But teams that cause upsets, do have professional players on their side. (AW's against Italy 2010) This PNG side
doesnt have one player playing out their country and I think thats the difference. We should be all over this team.
There is a huge amount at stake for our 'professional' players. The weight of expectation, the spectre of Honiara... I think they will struggle to impose themselves, whereas PNG have little to lose, the home advantage... I think they have a great chance.
And Rierra was a paramedic, what's your point?
We should best them because we are professional. but then we also play semi professional players for some reason, our players haven't been performing, our strategy hasn't been working, we aren't used to the conditions, they have home ground advantage, we're the big and evil team and minnows always lift for those games, and it's football - upsets happen.
I know upsets happen. But teams that cause upsets, do have professional players on their side. (AW's against Italy 2010) This PNG side
doesnt have one player playing out their country and I think thats the difference. We should be all over this team.
How do you explain ACFC in the club world cup then?
And Rierra was a paramedic, what's your point?
We should best them because we are professional. but then we also play semi professional players for some reason, our players haven't been performing, our strategy hasn't been working, we aren't used to the conditions, they have home ground advantage, we're the big and evil team and minnows always lift for those games, and it's football - upsets happen.
I know upsets happen. But teams that cause upsets, do have professional players on their side. (AW's against Italy 2010) This PNG side
doesnt have one player playing out their country and I think thats the difference. We should be all over this team.
How do you explain ACFC in the club world cup then?
Okay fair point.
I think when you referred to them not even owning a football shows your true colours and ignorance brettdale55
The subsequent borderline racist call was justified.
Suggest if you didn't mean it, you may wish to fess up that it was a dumb dumb comment
I think when you referred to them not even owning a football shows your true colours and ignorance brettdale55
The subsequent borderline racist call was justified.
Suggest if you didn't mean it, you may wish to fess up that it was a dumb dumb comment
Oh Please, it was an exaggeration to show what huge huge underdogs they should be and how the country has
a lack of facilitates. Not even on the same planet that could even be close to being racist.
Yeah perhaps PNG are a bit better of a team than one that dont even own footballs, but racist? come on, you know better than that.
Your a lawyer right, how do you think your comment that the comment was racist, would stand up in a court of law???
Some people here think pro footballers are always better than amateurs and that's not 100% right. Usually the main difference is in terms of physical ability, but that doesn't mean pros will always be more capable than amateurs. Specially considering where some of NZ pros come from (the A-League has a 6 months pre season). I'm not saying amateurs are better than pros, but in some cases the gap ia not that big.
Having said that, IMO we should win it anyway. Even if we had 23 amateur players, we have a better league and a greater football tradition. I understand some people concerns but even with our weakest squad ever we have only conceded once (a pen) and won all 4 four matches. I think whether NZ win it or not will depend on NZ, not getting nervous and just scoring an early goal to make them nervous.
I just hope Hudson plays to win rather than plays not to lose.
He is misguided in thinking playing route one is the right strategy. Our players are poor at it. It will only give PNG more confidence and bring the crowd into it.
Hudson needs to back his players. Play the high pressing, possession game we played against the Solomons. That was, by far, our most assured performance. Our players are better suited to this approach and, ironically, it's less risky as its at least a strategy we can implement.
Hudson needs to back his players and the strategy he has spoken at length about. Playing the way we did against NC brings the referee, Lady Luck and the opposition into it too much.
I just hope Hudson has the balls to see that he got it wrong tactically against NC and we were lucky, despite the result indicating otherwise.
A PNG team did qualify for the Club World Cup in Hekari United FC back in 2010. Its probably time they followed it up with a Confed Cup spot.
PNG 2-1 AW.