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The Road To Brazil 2014 via Wellington feat. Mexico

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almost 13 years ago

LondonChris wrote:

Hello my name is Chris...and i am an Aucklander(it feels so good to get that off my chest)

play the bl00dy game in wellington. don't fix something if it ain't broke. look at the atmosphere from the 1-0 win over bahrain. and more importantly look at the windy horrible weather that helped get us there. I will never forget the after match interview on the sideline where some paper and rubbish in the background was flying up and then horizontally. Great stuff! :)





This guy knows what's what. Ten points.
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almost 13 years ago

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle and yet, ironically, is the one and only pro Wellington argument that would make me want it played in Wellington... How so?, I hear you ask....


If the game is played in Auckland and we lose, I really couldn't stomach the aftermath from the Wellingtons... "Oh we only lost because it was in Auckland" and so on and so forth.

Auckland City FC

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almost 13 years ago

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle and yet, ironically, is the one and only pro Wellington argument that would make me want it played in Wellington... How so?, I hear you ask....


If the game is played in Auckland and we lose, I really couldn't stomach the aftermath from the Wellingtons... "Oh we only lost because it was in Auckland" and so on and so forth.


It would become more nauseous than that 'forward pass' at the 2007 RWC.... ARRRGH!!! Get over it!

Auckland City FC

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almost 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

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For once, I wholeheartedly agree with you, that forward pass is snore-worthy.

Auckland City FC

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almost 13 years ago

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 

Auckland City FC

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almost 13 years ago

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 


You're fighting with a bunch of selfish Wellingtonians. I wouldn't bother. Auckland is the better choice. Bigger capacity...and it would sell out. Nuff said


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almost 13 years ago

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 

Better 12th man

Founder

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almost 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Better 12th man


Don't buy that at all:

1) I just don't
2) If that's so then hosting in Auckland will be no issue as gumboots proportion of the "12th man" will be so passionate they will make the trip.
3) Auckland, assuming it sells out, will have a 12th + 15000 man.
4) You have absolutely no proof or anything to back up your statement.

Auckland City FC

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almost 13 years ago

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 
The players want to play in Wellington. Surely they have a better chance of playing to their full potential at the stadium they want to play at, rather than being forced to play at a stadium that only a few of them have played at once or twice?

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 
The players want to play in Wellington. Surely they have a better chance of playing to their full potential at the stadium they want to play at, rather than being forced to play at a stadium that only a few of them have played at once or twice?

How many of the players have come out and said this?

Auckland City FC

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almost 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 
The players want to play in Wellington. Surely they have a better chance of playing to their full potential at the stadium they want to play at, rather than being forced to play at a stadium that only a few of them have played at once or twice?


Did not realise how much power players have???????????????????????

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 13 years ago

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 
The players want to play in Wellington. Surely they have a better chance of playing to their full potential at the stadium they want to play at, rather than being forced to play at a stadium that only a few of them have played at once or twice?

How many of the players have come out and said this?
"The players would be happier if it's Wellington" - Harry Ngata, member of the NZ Player's Association.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 13 years ago

alireggae wrote:

Feverish wrote:

Better 12th man


Don't buy that at all:

1) I just don't
2) If that's so then hosting in Auckland will be no issue as gumboots proportion of the "12th man" will be so passionate they will make the trip.
3) Auckland, assuming it sells out, will have a 12th + 15000 man.
4) You have absolutely no proof or anything to back up your statement.

If you are classed as the typical aucklander than I think you have proved my point

Founder

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almost 13 years ago

Enough of that typical Aucklander rubbish


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almost 13 years ago

tripvincent wrote:

Enough of that typical Aucklander rubbish

Typical Aucklander.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

tripvincent wrote:

Enough of that typical Aucklander rubbish

Typical Aucklander.

Their can't be many,

  Supporter For Ever - Keep The Faith - Foundation Member - Never Lets FAX Get In The Way Of A Good Yarn

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almost 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 
The players want to play in Wellington. Surely they have a better chance of playing to their full potential at the stadium they want to play at, rather than being forced to play at a stadium that only a few of them have played at once or twice?

2 questions:

1) How many of our likely starting lineup actually play that often in Wellington?

2) how much of a difference do you think experience of a stadium and knowledge of a changing room actually has?

If anything, I would think that most of the players would prefer to play in front of the additional 15,000 supporters.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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almost 13 years ago

I couldn't care less at this point.

There are pros and cons for both venues.

Just toss a coin and tell us where its going to be.


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almost 13 years ago

I'm just basing what I said off what Harry Ngata has said in the media about where the players would prefer to play. I probably shouldn't have added the 'rather than' part of what I said, because that was just (probably incorrect) speculation on my behalf.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 13 years ago

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.
Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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almost 13 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.


which is it? you're telling us there is more to it and then you're speculating. get back in line!


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almost 13 years ago

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 
The players want to play in Wellington. Surely they have a better chance of playing to their full potential at the stadium they want to play at, rather than being forced to play at a stadium that only a few of them have played at once or twice?

How many of the players have come out and said this?

Every one I've talked to about this. 

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almost 13 years ago

Frankie Mac wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 
The players want to play in Wellington. Surely they have a better chance of playing to their full potential at the stadium they want to play at, rather than being forced to play at a stadium that only a few of them have played at once or twice?

2 questions:

1) How many of our likely starting lineup actually play that often in Wellington?

2) how much of a difference do you think experience of a stadium and knowledge of a changing room actually has?

If anything, I would think that most of the players would prefer to play in front of the additional 15,000 supporters.

Coming from someone who refused to play at Happy Valley last week..

Founder

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almost 13 years ago · edited almost 13 years ago · History

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.

interesting that you picked that quote from, what, a week ago?  I am not sure that I am the only person here is frustrated by the lack of decision.
Bottom line is we knew we were hosting this fixture about 4 or 5 weeks ago and we are seemingly no closer to making a decision.
Edit - also, surely we know what the FIFA requirements will be and I am sure that both Wellington and Auckland could satisfy them easily (I don't believe that a play-off game has any different requirements than any normal FIFA sanctioned World Cup qualifying game)

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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almost 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

alireggae wrote:

The argument that we have a better chance of winning in Wellington is complete twaddle

Can you explain how you have come to this opinion? 



It's such an absurd argument that I have no explanation. Perhaps if you can give me something that proves that we have a better chance of winning in Welly then I can counter it. 
The players want to play in Wellington. Surely they have a better chance of playing to their full potential at the stadium they want to play at, rather than being forced to play at a stadium that only a few of them have played at once or twice?

2 questions:

1) How many of our likely starting lineup actually play that often in Wellington?

2) how much of a difference do you think experience of a stadium and knowledge of a changing room actually has?

If anything, I would think that most of the players would prefer to play in front of the additional 15,000 supporters.

Coming from someone who refused to play at Happy Valley last week..

you get an extra 15,000 fans to my game in Happy Valley (making a total of 15,003 and 1 dog) and I would be there.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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almost 13 years ago

actually, re that last post, I forgot to mention that I will only be there if it isn't raining

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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Frankie Mac wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.

interesting that you picked that quote from, what, a week ago?  I am not sure that I am the only person here is frustrated by the lack of decision.
Bottom line is we knew we were hosting this fixture about 4 or 5 weeks ago and we are seemingly no closer to making a decision.
Edit - also, surely we know what the FIFA requirements will be and I am sure that both Wellington and Auckland could satisfy them easily (I don't believe that a play-off game has any different requirements than any normal FIFA sanctioned World Cup qualifying game)
Didn't know much a week ago. And nope, they are waiting to hear from 'the powers that be' before putting together a proposal. All I know is that they are waiting for, lets say, the relevant information before they get the interested parties together. 
Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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almost 13 years ago

tripvincent wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.


which is it? you're telling us there is more to it and then you're speculating. get back in line!

Just watching what I say. 
Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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almost 13 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:

tripvincent wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.


which is it? you're telling us there is more to it and then you're speculating. get back in line!

Just watching what I say. 


why?



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almost 13 years ago

tripvincent wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

tripvincent wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.


which is it? you're telling us there is more to it and then you're speculating. get back in line!

Just watching what I say. 


why?


Can't repeat some of what I was told.
Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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almost 13 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.


The only thing the NZF usually consider is how much money they can get.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 13 years ago

Frankie Mac wrote:

actually, re that last post, I forgot to mention that I will only be there if it isn't raining

Your signature is a f%&^ing eye-sore
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almost 13 years ago

Leggy wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.


The only thing the NZF usually consider is how much money they can get.

and if that is the decisive factor, great - make the decision on where the game will be played based on how much money you are going to get.  Surely it is a pretty simple mathematical calculation to work this out.....30,000 x $25 = $750,000 vs 45,000 x $25 = $1,125,000.

Boom - Auckland gets the game.  Now people from all around the country can start booking flights, hotels, etc.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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almost 13 years ago

Frankie Mac wrote:

Leggy wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I cannot believe that this has still not been decided. 

It's easy to sit there at your computer and say they should have decided already. There is a lot more to it than you think. As far as I know, the venue for this game won't be decided for at least another month - most likely June. I think they are probably still waiting on the requirements each city/venue is expected to provide from FIFA. It's not until then that they (WGTN/AKLD) will each get a group together to come up with the respective proposal's. Then NZF obviously have to consider everything before they decide which venue/city is best.


The only thing the NZF usually consider is how much money they can get.

and if that is the decisive factor, great - make the decision on where the game will be played based on how much money you are going to get.  Surely it is a pretty simple mathematical calculation to work this out.....30,000 x $25 = $750,000 vs 45,000 x $25 = $1,125,000.

Boom - Auckland gets the game.  Now people from all around the country can start booking flights, hotels, etc.

Less stadium costs, advertising etc. Need to get some support from the council to help make us more attractive.
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almost 13 years ago

all I can say is that come end of may, when NZFC have said they'll make a decision, is that it had it had better be at Wellington. Just because Auckland has better capacity I doubt you'll get a 60k crowd on a wednesday. Hold it at wellington, increase the capacity to absolute max - 36-37k and it will sell out guranteed.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 13 years ago

I must admit, the Wednesday night game.... Apathetic Aucklanders.... I would rather it go to Wellington with a better chance of selling out..

We all know that the marketing from NZF will be non existant as always so lets not kid ourselves. What did a Wednesday game against Jamaica get?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 13 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

I must admit, the Wednesday night game.... Apathetic Aucklanders.... I would rather it go to Wellington with a better chance of selling out..

We all know that the marketing from NZF will be non existant as always so lets not kid ourselves. What did a Wednesday game against Jamaica get?


15000+ far better than Welly would've done and with nothing at stake


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almost 13 years ago

It's a long way to go from 15,000 to 50,000.

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