All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams

Vs Mexico 2nd Leg Wed 20th 7:00pm SS1

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over 12 years ago
Bluemagic wrote:

How much behind the scenes pressure is on the Stubborn One to play Roux, Tuiloma and Siggy rather than Lochhead and Durante? I hope an awful lot. I'd throw Smeltz up front for Brockie too. But don't put it past Ricki to dig his heels in again, despite all the obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if Lochhead, Durante, Butler, Christie all take the field.

He'll probably start Ivan again and we'll get disqualified for fielding a suspended player

 

wouldnt back four be Tuiloma Smith Durante and Roux.?..Siggy on bench.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 12 years ago

3/7/1999 - the last time the All Whites won by 4 goals or more against a non Island team. 5-1 v Malaysia.

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over 12 years ago

Playing 4-4-2 apparently so maybe

Moss - Roux Sigmund Smith Tuiloma - Barbarouses McGlinchey James Rojas - Smeltz Fallon


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over 12 years ago
EL TV wrote:

Playing 4-4-2 apparently so maybe

Moss - Roux Sigmund Smith Tuiloma - Barbarouses McGlinchey James Rojas - Smeltz Fallon


I like this formation!!
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over 12 years ago
Optimist wrote:
EL TV wrote:

Playing 4-4-2 apparently so maybe

Moss - Roux Sigmund Smith Tuiloma - Barbarouses McGlinchey James Rojas - Smeltz Fallon


I like this formation!!



Trouble is Smeltz has only played one and a half games in the last 6 months.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 12 years ago

Wednesday 20 Nov

Fine

19°C High

13°C Overnight


Scorchio!


On Wed I are mostly be wearing:

  • Nix away shirt (2011/12-12/13)
  • minging 2009 AW "mini" scarf
  • White Noise beanie and/or 
  • Canteen bandana (white/black)

"Phoenix till they lose"

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over 12 years ago
Leggy wrote:
Optimist wrote:
EL TV wrote:

Playing 4-4-2 apparently so maybe

Moss - Roux Sigmund Smith Tuiloma - Barbarouses McGlinchey James Rojas - Smeltz Fallon


I like this formation!!



Trouble is Smeltz has only played one and a half games in the last 6 months.

Better than the one in two years Christie had played before last Thursday.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Optimist wrote:
EL TV wrote:

Playing 4-4-2 apparently so maybe

Moss - Roux Sigmund Smith Tuiloma - Barbarouses McGlinchey James Rojas - Smeltz Fallon


I like this formation!!



Trouble is Smeltz has only played one and a half games in the last 6 months.


Better than the one in two years Christie had played before last Thursday.

Prefer Brockie to Fallon. Let's not put a tall timber up there to encourage the long ball. Besides, how often does Brockie actually play as a striker for the AWs?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Shadow 11 at training today?


Moss -- Tuiloma . Smith . Durante . Roux -- Kosta . James . McGlinchey . Rojas -- Brockie . Smeltz

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over 12 years ago

Not too far off the one suggested above...



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over 12 years ago


havn't been on here for around 24 hrs come back and there is about 10 locked new post's hahaha newbees have no idea .mods just relax and carry on it will be over in another 3-5 days

I LOVE LAMP

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over 12 years ago
Fletch wrote:

Shadow 11 at training today?


Moss -- Tuiloma . Smith . Durante . Roux -- Kosta . James . McGlinchey . Rojas -- Brockie . Smeltz

That's the lineup I called last Thursday...

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Yup. Brockie starting.

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over 12 years ago
Fletch wrote:

Shadow 11 at training today?


Moss -- Tuiloma . Smith . Durante . Roux -- Kosta . James . McGlinchey . Rojas -- Brockie . Smeltz


That is some line up!! Fire up!

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over 12 years ago

Liking the look of this lineup

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over 12 years ago

Mexico prepare your...








(probably not actually)

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

Uruguay  -3.5 @ 2.375

New Zealand 4-0 @ 301.00

Doubles, 1  bet * 9.99 NZD


I am ready

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over 12 years ago

Big call starting Tuiloma at LB IMO. I have followed his progress with interest at OM. He's been playing there almost always as a DM. Four months ago he was playing for Birkenhead. He's had less than 10 games for OM all of them either U19 or France Div 4. Sure he has loads of talent but chucking an 18 yo, into a position he has not been playing, in a WC qualifier against the world 24th rated country is barmy IMO. 


Huge huge talent though....so I guess its sink or swim for the lad. All the best Bill

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over 12 years ago

He played most of his games at Birkenhead as a left half.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Bill can play anywhere across the back four and not look out of place. I've only seen him in all of those positions at Northern League level but in most circumstances was among the best on the park regardless of where he played. In my opinion he has the attitude, the technical ability, the pace and the awareness to do a job at left fullback for the AW's.

Knowing Bill personally I'd say he's less of a gamble than dropping Roux into such a big game. He has a very cool head for someone so young

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over 12 years ago
austin10 wrote:

Big call starting Tuiloma at LB IMO. I have followed his progress with interest at OM. He's been playing there almost always as a DM. Four months ago he was playing for Birkenhead. He's had less than 10 games for OM all of them either U19 or France Div 4. Sure he has loads of talent but chucking an 18 yo, into a position he has not been playing, in a WC qualifier against the world 24th rated country is barmy IMO. 


Huge huge talent though....so I guess its sink or swim for the lad. All the best Bill

But he's got a club and Lochhead doesn't
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over 12 years ago

Austin10 theres no depth and Lochhead was poor first leg. No other option unless u want hogg?

Its 5-1 in the tie lets just let the kids go for it!


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over 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:
austin10 wrote:

Big call starting Tuiloma at LB IMO. I have followed his progress with interest at OM. He's been playing there almost always as a DM. Four months ago he was playing for Birkenhead. He's had less than 10 games for OM all of them either U19 or France Div 4. Sure he has loads of talent but chucking an 18 yo, into a position he has not been playing, in a WC qualifier against the world 24th rated country is barmy IMO. 


Huge huge talent though....so I guess its sink or swim for the lad. All the best Bill

But he's got a club and Lochhead doesn't

Nathan Cooksley has a club too...

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
austin10 wrote:

Big call starting Tuiloma at LB IMO. I have followed his progress with interest at OM. He's been playing there almost always as a DM. Four months ago he was playing for Birkenhead. He's had less than 10 games for OM all of them either U19 or France Div 4. Sure he has loads of talent but chucking an 18 yo, into a position he has not been playing, in a WC qualifier against the world 24th rated country is barmy IMO. 


Huge huge talent though....so I guess its sink or swim for the lad. All the best Bill

But he's got a club and Lochhead doesn't

Nathan Cooksley has a club too...

Oh wow. Really JV? Really?

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
austin10 wrote:

Big call starting Tuiloma at LB IMO. I have followed his progress with interest at OM. He's been playing there almost always as a DM. Four months ago he was playing for Birkenhead. He's had less than 10 games for OM all of them either U19 or France Div 4. Sure he has loads of talent but chucking an 18 yo, into a position he has not been playing, in a WC qualifier against the world 24th rated country is barmy IMO. 


Huge huge talent though....so I guess its sink or swim for the lad. All the best Bill

But he's got a club and Lochhead doesn't

Nathan Cooksley has a club too...


Oh wow. Really JV? Really?

Your sarcasm radar needs a massive re-tune.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

The fact of the matter is Lochhead was not bad in the away leg. He was the same old Tony that always fronts up and gets scapegoated.

He has been dropped for a look at the future, not because of form or that fact that he does not have a club.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Jeff Vader wrote:

The fact of the matter is Lochhead was not bad in the away leg. He was the same old Tony that always fronts up and gets scapegoated.

He has been dropped for a look at the future, not because of form or that fact that he does not have a club.


He's effectively retired considering he's not going to leave Wellington to find a game somewhere.  It's the right call


I still struggle to understand how Brockie gets in this side.  What role is he actually going to play?  I like the personnel more but I'm still not sure about our midfield 2 against their 3.

Normo's coming home

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
austin10 wrote:

Big call starting Tuiloma at LB IMO. I have followed his progress with interest at OM. He's been playing there almost always as a DM. Four months ago he was playing for Birkenhead. He's had less than 10 games for OM all of them either U19 or France Div 4. Sure he has loads of talent but chucking an 18 yo, into a position he has not been playing, in a WC qualifier against the world 24th rated country is barmy IMO. 


Huge huge talent though....so I guess its sink or swim for the lad. All the best Bill

But he's got a club and Lochhead doesn't

Nathan Cooksley has a club too...


Oh wow. Really JV? Really?

Your sarcasm radar needs a massive re-tune.

We are on an internet forum JV.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago
EL TV wrote:

Austin10 theres no depth and Lochhead was poor first leg. 


Huge call.
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over 12 years ago

Depth or Lochhead being poor?

didn't think he was that bad myself..



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over 12 years ago

Don't get me wrong..I'm excited by the youngsters getting a chance. But people have a tendency to write off players if they start off not so well. People were still bagging Fitzgerald years after he got chucked into RB?? against Mexico and had a poor game. 


I suspect the Mexico coach will see the two AW newby's and they will hammer down the flanks all match. They have a couple of outstanding players at LB/RB who bomb forward with great pace and skill. I actually thought Lockhead did OK at the Azteca.


 I hope Costa plays instead of Brockie. At least Costa gets around the pitch and he has some pace. We can't afford to have anyone drifting out of this game for periods. Especially with Smeltz and Marco lacking match time.

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over 12 years ago
martinb wrote:

Depth or Lochhead being poor?

didn't think he was that bad myself..


Lochhead call. He's been the scapegoat around here for the last 3 years at least, most of the time completely undeservedly so.
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over 12 years ago

Who I would play

        Moss

Roux  Dura  Smith   Locky

       Tuiloma  James

             Weemac

Rojas                     Costa

               Smeltz

McClinchey is NOT a DM...we keep playing him there but he is best at AM where they play him CCM or wider. Tuiloma has been playing DM at OM....


442 against a Mexican side playing with only three at the back means we are in danger of getting seriously outnumbered and overwhelmed in midfield. With my formation McClinchey can drop back on D and help out the DM's


Its going to be a very very interesting night on Wednesday. There will be a lot of goals. Hopefully a couple of them will be ours



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over 12 years ago
james dean wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

The fact of the matter is Lochhead was not bad in the away leg. He was the same old Tony that always fronts up and gets scapegoated.

He has been dropped for a look at the future, not because of form or that fact that he does not have a club.


He's effectively retired considering he's not going to leave Wellington to find a game somewhere.  It's the right call


I still struggle to understand how Brockie gets in this side.  What role is he actually going to play?  I like the personnel more but I'm still not sure about our midfield 2 against their 3.

Don't get me wrong, I agree its the right call but lets not say he has been dropped because he was shit in the away leg or because he has no club. He has been dropped (or to use your word 'retired') for a player of the future. Its absolutely the right call.

Brockie gets into this side because of his age and at 26, he has a cycle in him. Killen, Fallon and Smeltz are effectively done. In the 4-4-2 with Wood being suspended, the other striker is Brockie. I'm not sure what other strikers are there when you 'retire' those 3. I'm trying to think of the next lot of names up front actually.

You are effectively playing Marco and Kosta as attacking halves/wingers who will provide the delivery for the front two if it does not come from McGlinchy/James

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Ive personally never scapegoated him for anything


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over 12 years ago
austin10 wrote:

Who I would play

        Moss

Roux  Dura  Smith   Locky

       Tuiloma  James

             Weemac

Rojas                     Costa

               Smeltz

McClinchey is NOT a DM...we keep playing him there but he is best at AM where they play him CCM or wider. Tuiloma has been playing DM at OM....


442 against a Mexican side playing with only three at the back means we are in danger of getting seriously outnumbered and overwhelmed in midfield. With my formation McClinchey can drop back on D and help out the DM's


Its going to be a very very interesting night on Wednesday. There will be a lot of goals. Hopefully a couple of them will be ours

McGlinchy has never been played as a DM. He gets DM duties because we continuously get pumped and everyone gets back. No one has ever had him as a DM or talked about him as a DM so I have zero clue as to why you made that statement.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
EL TV wrote:

Austin10 theres no depth and Lochhead was poor first leg. No other option unless u want hogg?

Its 5-1 in the tie lets just let the kids go for it!

Hogg isn't exactly firing for Waitakere at the moment.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

McGlinchey has always been pinned as next Elliott but hes a wide attacking player. He's not or shouldnt be relied upon to be our playmaker


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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
EL TV wrote:

Austin10 theres no depth and Lochhead was poor first leg. No other option unless u want hogg?

Its 5-1 in the tie lets just let the kids go for it!

Hogg isn't exactly firing for Waitakere at the moment.
Not this weekend ;)

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