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Auckland City FC - Thanks a Trillion

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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
Spud wrote:

Coach Ramon Tribulietx, back from a holiday in his native Spain, also faces the potential loss of the very talented Cristobal Marquez, who is apparently on the move after showing his skills briefly with the Aucklanders. (ASB preview)

Another one off to Wellington? 

how many games did he play? 3? Called it.


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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
Spud wrote:

Coach Ramon Tribulietx, back from a holiday in his native Spain, also faces the potential loss of the very talented Cristobal Marquez, who is apparently on the move after showing his skills briefly with the Aucklanders. (ASB preview)

Another one off to Wellington? 

how many games did he play? 3? Called it.

Yep. Guess he came to do a job and did it.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 12 years ago

Vs Team Windy this Sunday...


Come on City!

Auckland City FC

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about 12 years ago

It would be a shame to lose Marquez, who is real class, but if true I'm not surprised.

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about 12 years ago
Bluemagic wrote:

It would be a shame to lose Marquez, who is real class, but if true I'm not surprised.

European websites are saying that he has already signed for Spanish 2nd division side CE Sabadell FC, so I think it is safe to say that he has gone.

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about 12 years ago
Press Pass wrote:
Bluemagic wrote:

It would be a shame to lose Marquez, who is real class, but if true I'm not surprised.

European websites are saying that he has already signed for Spanish 2nd division side CE Sabadell FC, so I think it is safe to say that he has gone.

Cheers PP. 
Again this is the only media to find out what's going on in the ASB, especially in regards to ACFC and Waitakere. 
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about 12 years ago

Is this really a surprise? he always looked like a guest player didn't he? doesn't this happen every year?

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about 12 years ago

Is this really a surprise? he always looked like a guest player didn't he? doesn't this happen every year?

Yes
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about 12 years ago

Is this really a surprise? he always looked like a guest player didn't he? doesn't this happen every year?



Yes , of course ...could you name the others ?
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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
FU BLU wrote:

Is this really a surprise? he always looked like a guest player didn't he? doesn't this happen every year?



Yes , of course ...could you name the others ?

Names escape me. 

Solomon Islander five games then off to Aussie state league.

Spanish guy signs for Japan junket then straight off to Poland.

Krishna.

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about 12 years ago

Probably the first was Japan international Teruo Iwamoto managed about 3 appearances for ACFC before he went to the CWC in 2006.

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about 12 years ago

am i wrong in saying that andreu didn't see out the season?

there's nothing wrong with it - these guys are class, they belong in a better league.  they help auckland operate at a higher level for the club world cup and in return they get exposure and pick up contracts.

that auckland can get them out for a few games is cool and makes for good viewing

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about 12 years ago

I don't have much of a problem with it. Used to enjoy the days when the likes of Brooking, Mariner and Channon used to play here

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about 12 years ago

Yeah but at least play more than 3 games for your 100k.

The team has gotten the exact same results each time these types of players have come in - zilch. So why waste that money in them? They bring nothing.

For anyone that says otherwise, demonstrate what he brings for 3 games played.

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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

Yeah but at least play more than 3 games for your 100k.

The team has gotten the exact same results each time these types of players have come in - zilch. So why waste that money in them? They bring nothing.

For anyone that says otherwise, demonstrate what he brings for 3 games played.

Hope.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 12 years ago
Jerzy Merino wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Yeah but at least play more than 3 games for your 100k.

The team has gotten the exact same results each time these types of players have come in - zilch. So why waste that money in them? They bring nothing.

For anyone that says otherwise, demonstrate what he brings for 3 games played.

Hope.



a little more ball retention

i get your point vader, especially when you consider that ACFC did perfectly well at a previous club world cup with Matt Williams and Adam McGeorge starting in midfield

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about 12 years ago

That's kinda what I am getting at Reg. I would prefer to see Adam McGeorge as opposed to a 3 game mercenary. Other than 1 great year there, the results are largely the same so why pay this mercenary to come along and effectively produce nothing (in terms of results)

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about 12 years ago

Is this a landmark? The first time anyone has posted that they would prefer to see A McGeorge?



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about 12 years ago
Press Pass wrote:

Probably the first was Japan international Teruo Iwamoto managed about 3 appearances for ACFC before he went to the CWC in 2006.

He was brought in just for the CWC as a guest player to interest Japanese crowds. It was great to see him run out to a huge ovation wearing an ACFC shirt. I always assumed Christobel would also be snapped after this latest CWC. I don't think some of those on this forum quite appreciate what a step up it is for an ASBP club playing the J League champions for instance in the CWC. Top quality quest players are usually just that. Give City its due for going to the trouble and expense.

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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

Yeah but at least play more than 3 games for your 100k.

The team has gotten the exact same results each time these types of players have come in - zilch. So why waste that money in them? They bring nothing.

For anyone that says otherwise, demonstrate what he brings for 3 games played.

Zilch? 1-1 at 90 minutes with a CWC finalist, a close 1-0 loss to the J league champions. How do you know without the likes of Marquez we wouldn't have been thrashed 3 or 4 nil? For an ASBP team ACFC has done remarkably well at the CWC. To dismiss their efforts as "exact same results" shows a tremendous lack of any grasp of the task at the CWC.

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about 12 years ago

What does the record say? Played 5 lost 4 or something?

1-0, 5-0 it's still a loss. Did ACFC get any extra cash for coming close?

The point I am making is that these guys don't bring anything. Do you believe that cristobal changed this result from being a 2-1 lose as opposed to a 3-0 loss?

The point is not the record but what these guys bring for a massive wedge and 3 games and the answer is, it's not worth it.

I'm certainly not an Adam McGeorge fan but it's the principle of play the players that got you there, that earned that right for your club.

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about 12 years ago

personally i like auckland bringing out the class players, it's the dross foreigners in between the class players and the locals that annoy me and even then, it's not their fault, NZF allow  them to do it

anyway, this may be of interest...


09/12/2009 auckland 2 al ahli 0

spoonley - coombes, uhlmann, vicelich, hogg - hayne, mcgeorge, williams, ki*, koprivcic - dickinson*

(2 players not eligable for nz)


16/12/2009 auckland 3 mazembe 2

gothard* - pritchett, vicelich, campbell, hogg - hayne, coombes, ki*, williams, koprivcic - dickinson*

(3 players not eligible for NZ)


coached by paul posa (kiwi)


ever since, it's been spot the kiwi



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about 12 years ago
reg22 wrote:

personally i like auckland bringing out the class players, it's the dross foreigners in between the class players and the locals that annoy me and even then, it's not their fault, NZF allow  them to do it

anyway, this may be of interest...


09/12/2009 auckland 2 al ahli 0

spoonley - coombes, uhlmann, vicelich, hogg - hayne, mcgeorge, williams, ki*, koprivcic - dickinson*

(2 players not eligable for nz)


16/12/2009 auckland 3 mazembe 2

gothard* - pritchett, vicelich, campbell, hogg - hayne, coombes, ki*, williams, koprivcic - dickinson*

(3 players not eligible for NZ)


coached by paul posa (kiwi)


ever since, it's been spot the kiwi




Good post
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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Jeff Vader wrote:

What does the record say? Played 5 lost 4 or something?

1-0, 5-0 it's still a loss. Did ACFC get any extra cash for coming close?

The point I am making is that these guys don't bring anything. Do you believe that cristobal changed this result from being a 2-1 lose as opposed to a 3-0 loss?

The point is not the record but what these guys bring for a massive wedge and 3 games and the answer is, it's not worth it.

I'm certainly not an Adam McGeorge fan but it's the principle of play the players that got you there, that earned that right for your club.

+1

I don't always agree with you Vader but no one can question your commitment/desire to see our very own Kiwi players succeed. Hence I'm with you on this.......sick of out of form/injured/journeymen/ mercenaries flattering in their deception leaving before their short comings are found out. Has any of these wannabes in the CWC scored or done a better mid field job than Chad?


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about 12 years ago
aitkenmike wrote:
reg22 wrote:

personally i like auckland bringing out the class players, it's the dross foreigners in between the class players and the locals that annoy me and even then, it's not their fault, NZF allow  them to do it

anyway, this may be of interest...


09/12/2009 auckland 2 al ahli 0

spoonley - coombes, uhlmann, vicelich, hogg - hayne, mcgeorge, williams, ki*, koprivcic - dickinson*

(2 players not eligable for nz)


16/12/2009 auckland 3 mazembe 2

gothard* - pritchett, vicelich, campbell, hogg - hayne, coombes, ki*, williams, koprivcic - dickinson*

(3 players not eligible for NZ)


coached by paul posa (kiwi)


ever since, it's been spot the kiwi




Good post

bloody good post. The reason is simple - Ramon. He must believe less in the local talent than the fans do.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago

^ Kinda rules him out for the All Whites job then.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 12 years ago
aitkenmike wrote:
reg22 wrote:

personally i like auckland bringing out the class players, it's the dross foreigners in between the class players and the locals that annoy me and even then, it's not their fault, NZF allow  them to do it

anyway, this may be of interest...


09/12/2009 auckland 2 al ahli 0

spoonley - coombes, uhlmann, vicelich, hogg - hayne, mcgeorge, williams, ki*, koprivcic - dickinson*

(2 players not eligable for nz)


16/12/2009 auckland 3 mazembe 2

gothard* - pritchett, vicelich, campbell, hogg - hayne, coombes, ki*, williams, koprivcic - dickinson*

(3 players not eligible for NZ)


coached by paul posa (kiwi)


ever since, it's been spot the kiwi




Good post

There is some truth in this. I loved that 2009 team and the way Haynes and Hogg scampered down the wing. I thought Haynes was our player of the tournament unfortunately he was messed up by Herbert taking him to LA with the AWs and then not even playing or speaking to the lad. He was never the same and left for Australia. Ramon has brought in more of a possession rather than a quick attacking side and has brought in more foreign players, particularly Spaniards. But he has produced good results at the CWC against more quality opposition than Al Ahli. Remember in 2009 we were whipped 3-0 by Monterrey (I think) in between the two great wins, and Mazembe's goalkeeper was sent off so they were down a man, not wishing to take anything away from Van Steeden's wonder goal..

I like the way ACFC are playing now and would like to see more young Kiwis come through but as Albert Riera has proved, Ramon has made some astute signings and they've now become part of the NZ football landscape. NZ players playing against quality imports can only lift the standard of the ASBP.

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about 12 years ago

Well I had thought that for one moment however I do think he would be ideal in that role because of the style of football he coaches. I also think that there is a difference in a potential AW team he may field vs talent pool in ASBP he has to field for a club side. There is no comparison.

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about 12 years ago
Bluemagic wrote:
aitkenmike wrote:
reg22 wrote:

personally i like auckland bringing out the class players, it's the dross foreigners in between the class players and the locals that annoy me and even then, it's not their fault, NZF allow  them to do it

anyway, this may be of interest...


09/12/2009 auckland 2 al ahli 0

spoonley - coombes, uhlmann, vicelich, hogg - hayne, mcgeorge, williams, ki*, koprivcic - dickinson*

(2 players not eligable for nz)


16/12/2009 auckland 3 mazembe 2

gothard* - pritchett, vicelich, campbell, hogg - hayne, coombes, ki*, williams, koprivcic - dickinson*

(3 players not eligible for NZ)


coached by paul posa (kiwi)


ever since, it's been spot the kiwi




Good post

There is some truth in this. I loved that 2009 team and the way Haynes and Hogg scampered down the wing. I thought Haynes was our player of the tournament unfortunately he was messed up by Herbert taking him to LA with the AWs and then not even playing or speaking to the lad. He was never the same and left for Australia. Ramon has brought in more of a possession rather than a quick attacking side and has brought in more foreign players, particularly Spaniards. But he has produced good results at the CWC against more quality opposition than Al Ahli. Remember in 2009 we were whipped 3-0 by Monterrey (I think) in between the two great wins, and Mazembe's goalkeeper was sent off so they were down a man, not wishing to take anything away from Van Steeden's wonder goal..

I like the way ACFC are playing now and would like to see more young Kiwis come through but as Albert Riera has proved, Ramon has made some astute signings and they've now become part of the NZ football landscape. NZ players playing against quality imports can only lift the standard of the ASBP.

I like the way ACFC play now however they were not exactly playing a poor brand of football under Posa. Paul had a very unassuming style which I think got more out of his charges in the end ultimately. Allan Jones got results but the football was such a long ball style (or as Allan would say 'direct football'). I don't disagree that having some imports in the league of a good quality is good for other players but a team of imports? That's where I fall foul of. I do think that the style of football Ramon coaches is good for the league - we just need more Kiwis playing that way to help their development. It would be tough to suggest that while Otago want to play that way, they execute to that degree. I think that's where we in NZ really suffer from our ex pat history because long ball is so engrained in NZ football culture that it's proving tough to get it out at an amateur level which is partly to do with skill level and partly to do with the style coached.

Interesting about Jason Hayne. I always wonder why he skipped out. What's the full story there with that 2009 Herbert thing?

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about 12 years ago

Man - City were good yesterday and despite the fact that they were easily the better team we still got a heart stopper of a finish due to TW's two late goals and 5 minutes extra time pressure. De Vries had a blinder and could have scored more. Tade was exceptional and has showed over the past few games that he is more than a '20 minute footballer'. Angel Berlanga didn't put a foot wrong and apart from one error John Irving had a top game also. Not sure how Browne's injury is but with that, Krishna gone and Dicko suspended we're a wee bit shy on strikers, however, with Tade's and De Vries' form then we should be good.

Never a dull moment in the ASB Prem - bring on Waibop in Cambridge - see you there! 

Auckland City FC

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about 12 years ago

Browne already needing a groin op, now with crocked shoulder. Too fast for his own good collecting 3 mistimed tackles in first 15. Shame about the boy. Ramon needs to nurse him a while yet.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 12 years ago
alireggae wrote:

Man - City were good yesterday and despite the fact that they were easily the better team we still got a heart stopper of a finish due to TW's two late goals and 5 minutes extra time pressure. De Vries had a blinder and could have scored more. Tade was exceptional and has showed over the past few games that he is more than a '20 minute footballer'. Angel Berlanga didn't put a foot wrong and apart from one error John Irving had a top game also. Not sure how Browne's injury is but with that, Krishna gone and Dicko suspended we're a wee bit shy on strikers, however, with Tade's and De Vries' form then we should be good.

Never a dull moment in the ASB Prem - bring on Waibop in Cambridge - see you there! 

Short on strikers? Danko, Tade and De Vries? If that is short on strikers in this league.....

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about 12 years ago
alireggae wrote:

Man - City were good yesterday and despite the fact that they were easily the better team we still got a heart stopper of a finish due to TW's two late goals and 5 minutes extra time pressure. De Vries had a blinder and could have scored more. Tade was exceptional and has showed over the past few games that he is more than a '20 minute footballer'. Angel Berlanga didn't put a foot wrong and apart from one error John Irving had a top game also. Not sure how Browne's injury is but with that, Krishna gone and Dicko suspended we're a wee bit shy on strikers, however, with Tade's and De Vries' form then we should be good.

Never a dull moment in the ASB Prem - bring on Waibop in Cambridge - see you there! 

Spot on Ali, never a dull moment. In truth City should have been 4 or 5 up before they took their foot off the gas at 3-0. They played such a high tempo attacking game for the first 70 minutes against Wellington that it's not surprising they ran out of puff a bit and allowed TW back in the game. Thought Tade was excellent and De Vries got better in the second half. Great shame about Browne injuring his shoulder, he's still too slight and needs to build himself up physically. Overall another great advertisement for the ASBP.

Of course bumbling NZF scheduled three ASBP games in Auckland on the same day when City against Wellington should have been a showcase. Waitakere against Southern could have been played on Saturday, which would have ensured more than just a couple of spectators at Fred Taylor Paddock. I simply can't understand why NZF are so indifferent to promoting the ASBP.

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about 12 years ago

What was Dickinson sent off for or do I need to wait for the replay?

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about 12 years ago

For "a clash with Adam Cowan". Knowing Dickinson's track record he probably lost his nut at someone and took it out in a challenge. 

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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

What was Dickinson sent off for or do I need to wait for the replay?

Sliding Cowan tackle left him on his arse tangled in Dicko's feet.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 12 years ago
Jerzy Merino wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

What was Dickinson sent off for or do I need to wait for the replay?

Sliding Cowan tackle left him on his arse tangled in Dicko's feet.


And then the indiscreet stomp when he stood up !!!!
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about 12 years ago
Bluemagic wrote:
alireggae wrote:

Man - City were good yesterday and despite the fact that they were easily the better team we still got a heart stopper of a finish due to TW's two late goals and 5 minutes extra time pressure. De Vries had a blinder and could have scored more. Tade was exceptional and has showed over the past few games that he is more than a '20 minute footballer'. Angel Berlanga didn't put a foot wrong and apart from one error John Irving had a top game also. Not sure how Browne's injury is but with that, Krishna gone and Dicko suspended we're a wee bit shy on strikers, however, with Tade's and De Vries' form then we should be good.

Never a dull moment in the ASB Prem - bring on Waibop in Cambridge - see you there! 

Spot on Ali, never a dull moment. In truth City should have been 4 or 5 up before they took their foot off the gas at 3-0. They played such a high tempo attacking game for the first 70 minutes against Wellington that it's not surprising they ran out of puff a bit and allowed TW back in the game. Thought Tade was excellent and De Vries got better in the second half. Great shame about Browne injuring his shoulder, he's still too slight and needs to build himself up physically. Overall another great advertisement for the ASBP.

Of course bumbling NZF scheduled three ASBP games in Auckland on the same day when City against Wellington should have been a showcase. Waitakere against Southern could have been played on Saturday, which would have ensured more than just a couple of spectators at Fred Taylor Paddock. I simply can't understand why NZF are so indifferent to promoting the ASBP.

don't the franchises themselves decide mostly where and when to play their home games?  maybe Auckland City could have played Saturday to avoid the other three games??  just a thought.

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about 12 years ago
UK Kiwi wrote:
Jerzy Merino wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

What was Dickinson sent off for or do I need to wait for the replay?

Sliding Cowan tackle left him on his arse tangled in Dicko's feet.


And then the indiscreet stomp when he stood up !!!!

That's just the way Dicko always walks when he's irritated. 

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 12 years ago

So he was being his usual thug self.

Figures.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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