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No habla Espanol - the NZFC bitch fight

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
any anti Waitakere chants are ok in my book but bagging a team that isn't even in the same league seems a bit pointess
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Footpaul wrote:

I'll have to drag myself along to some Central games. I get terrible live football withdrawals!
 
Mate, tomorrow night vs Waitakere at the Croatian Cultural Society. 7.15pm kick off.
Should be a decent game. ASBP players back for Central and I'm assuming the same for Waitakere.
 

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
alireggae wrote:
Doloras wrote:
alireggae wrote:

  • Any singing or chanting creates an atmosphere regardless of the words


    • True. When Rangers fans chant "the famine is over, why don't you go home", it creates an atmosphere. Just not a very nice one. Same, IMHO, for anti-Nix chants, considering that many people support both ACFC and Nix.

    Grand - join in when you feel like it and don't when you don't.

    Come on mate, if you really cared about creating an atmosphere at Kiwitea St you wouldn't sing songs that you know lots of people won't want to join in on.

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Bozz wrote:
    Footpaul wrote:

    I'll have to drag myself along to some Central games. I get terrible live football withdrawals!
     
    Mate, tomorrow night vs Waitakere at the Croatian Cultural Society. 7.15pm kick off.
    Should be a decent game. ASBP players back for Central and I'm assuming the same for Waitakere.
     
    Is Stuart Hogg related to Ian Hogg?

    Auckland City FC

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Bozz wrote:
    Footpaul wrote:

    I'll have to drag myself along to some Central games. I get terrible live football withdrawals!
     
    Mate, tomorrow night vs Waitakere at the Croatian Cultural Society. 7.15pm kick off.
    Should be a decent game. ASBP players back for Central and I'm assuming the same for Waitakere.
     


    Is the Croatian Cultural Society Kiwitea, or somewhere else? If it is I'm keen!
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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    It's a different place. McLeod Road in Te Atatu - near the end of the road on the right. Opposite side of the road and just back from Waitemata Football Club.
     
    Alireggae - I think they are brothers.
     

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Hard News wrote:
    Until Phil pops in.
    �

    He'd be disgusted by this behaviour.


    Disappointed you didn't get behind my idea of anti-Norwich chants at Phoenix matches.
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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Hard News wrote:
    After the derby's and seaons we've had vs them I'm keeping VERY quiet.


    What derby's? I don't remember any derby's? aitkenmike2011-05-05 22:53:07
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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Entertaining gmae tonight. Central were the victors, 3-2 over Waitakere.
    Central goalscorers - Corrales, Stu Hogg and Exposito.
    Sorry not sure who scored for Waitakere.
    Both Vicelich and Mulligan played for Central along with a number of other ACFC guys.
     

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    james dean wrote:
    nickbrown1 wrote:
    personally I don't have a problem
    - It is not the Phoenix's fault it is the fault of the NZ media who do not give a crap about all local football
    - It lack of coverage would still not be different without the nix with the phoenix's participation in the A League the profile of the game has been raised in this country thats without a doubt
     
     
    Nick, unfortunately it's nt just the media who don't give a crap, it's everyone.
     
    I am going to turn this back on you and ask what is so great about the ASB Premiership that we should all love it?  I have been a regular at domestic football in NZ since I was about 12 but the standard has only marginally improved, the facilities are basic, the "experience" really is only for the hard core fan. 
     
    If you have only 2 days a week off what is it about the NZFC that people should be using one quarter off their day off to go and watch.  I go but that's because I'm a bit sad, but really isn't it a bit crap?  Is it any wonder that people prefer the nix, better stadium, better experience and better standard of play?  The only argument I ever here is that it is "local"...
     
    With lower level rugby, or league or netball you at least have the argument that because they are not major overseas sports you are still only3-4 levels from the top even at NZ grass roots level.  On the other hand the NZFC is so far away from the top level of football and it is so bleeding obvious from the quality that is the case, it doesn't surprise me that some people would prefer a premiership match on the couch over what is actually a fairly mickey mouse competition.  Call me cynical that that is how I see it.
    To add to that watching a match involving 2 of the 3 Waikato, Manawatu, Otago play would not be any better than Central League football or Northern League football. ACFC are lucky because they are essentially Central in disguise so they get a higher attendance fee because there is already an established 'club loyalty' Tell me how that works in Waikato where it is very fractured, Wellington where there are at least 3 dominant clubs with their own mix and Otago where they bitch fight in another forum.

    Grumpy old bastard alert

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Some real quality on show in the game. Hoggs goal was 30-35yards out into top corner. Exposito also scored a good one from edge of the area. Vicelich was outstanding. It is good for the young kids to watch these players on a friday night before their morning games. Waitakere had Emblem missing, thought he was player coach? However if you support Auckland City get down and watch Centrals games.
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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Junior82 wrote:
    alireggae wrote:
    • Any singing or chanting creates an atmosphere regardless of the words or are you saying that there's no atmosphere at a Spanish games for instance (assuming you don't speak Spanish) and that the atmosphere only exists for Spanish speakers?
    • There can be many reasons for a moderate change of opinion or even a complete reversal and if one of those reasons is that Chris is reading the other side of the agument and adjusting his view point accordingly then those who were accusing him of ignoring parts of your argument are clearly wrong. I'd also say that when in the minority in your opinions with the majority against you then you tend to say things that may be more exagerrated than you mean especially under the cover of a forum.
     
    Context/relevence.  Never mind.  Next Nix game I will try and create some atmosphere by chanting "Who the f**k are Man Utd."
     
     
    Here's a bit of relevance for you - "According to Cross, another factor which shouldn't be underestimated is Wellington's desire to upstage Auckland. "We're not Auckland any more" is a particular favourite among the chants of the Yellow Fever faithful."
     
    Hmm - singing about a non existent team...

    Auckland City FC

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Don't think that chant's been heard in the last 3 years to be honest - was relevant in season 1, and has been shelved ever since.
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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    alireggae wrote:
    Here's a bit of relevance for you - "According to Cross, another factor which shouldn't be underestimated is Wellington's desire to upstage Auckland. "We're not Auckland any more" is a particular favourite among the chants of the Yellow Fever faithful."
     
    Hmm - singing about a non existent team...
     
    Using a 3-year old quote to make a point about relevance!
     
     
     
     

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Ali G - you've just given me a great idea for a chant when we have the regional game up your way!

    "Phoenix till they lose"

    Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

    Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Riiiiiiight...
     
    "
    You were posing as a football club
    At North Harbour
    When I met you
    They kicked you out
    We took you up
    And turned you around
    Turned you into someone new
    Now four years later on
    We've got the world at our feet
    Our success has been so easy to view
    But don't forget
    It's us that gave you a World Cup to watch
    And probably a League Title too - Hahahaha!!!!

    Are you watching, Auckland
    Are you watching, oh
    Are you watching, Auckland
    Are you watching, oh

    Auckland City FC

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Written by an Australian... disgraceful Australian club.
     
    At least it's singing about a club in the same competion, and according to the knitting circle - country.
    Hard News2011-05-13 14:32:59

    How's my driving? - Whine here

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    alireggae is so confused. He seems to think ACFC/Nix is an Auckland/Wellington deal, which it's not at all. He should talk to jordybean - the ACFC knitting circle despised the Kingz/Knights as much as they do the Phoenix and for the exact same reason. It's an A-League vs coalface kiwi football thing.

    Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
    This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Here's some interesting goss - apparently Vicelich, Esposito and one other ACFC player turned out for Central United's 3rd team (AFF Champs) against Western Springs. They won 10-1, Esposito just about taking the Springs keeper's head off with a cracking shot in the first minute.

    Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
    This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Doloras... you may have to tag in for me in the auckland forum.  They've given me the flick.
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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    I will consider your kind invitation to go swimming in swamp slime and maggot eggs.

    Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
    This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    2ndBest wrote:
    Doloras... you may have to tag in for me in the auckland forum.  They've given me the flick.
     
    Did Blue Magic-ovitch call you to find out if your were an honest kiwi?
     
    Junior822011-05-19 11:58:31

    "Phoenix till they lose"

    Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

    Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    They have made a concerted effort to limit the amount of numpty coming from their fanbase on here and I think 2ndBest's banstick is probably part of the crossfire of that. Hard News2011-05-19 12:08:49

    How's my driving? - Whine here

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    I like to look at the ACFC forum from time to time just to see what the latest is.
     
    Most of it is just the same old ranting about the Nix or NZF that you would expect, and they have an unfortunate habit of cutting and pasting stuff from here to get rarked up about.
     
    The problem seems to be that they only have 58 registered members and there's clearly only four or five of them who actually ever post anything. So it's just the same handful of people cracking on about the same old sh*t all the time. At least this forum has some critical mass and diversity (of topics and opinions).
     
    I miss Bluemagic coming on here though. I didn't often agree with him but it was good to actually have a debate. It seems he has found his comfort zone just issuing pronouncements to his followers on the ACFC forum, however, without any real fear of rebuttal. And some of the others - who have been posting here recently - really just don't have a clue.
     
    I'd join their forum myself if it didn't seem like the cyber equivalent of going to Siberia. I'd rather post my thoughts where someone will actually see them!
     

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    terminator_x wrote:
     
    I'd join their forum myself if it didn't seem like the cyber equivalent of going to Siberia. I'd rather post my thoughts where someone will actually see them!
     
    Cyberia - Hahahahah!

    Auckland City FC

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    alireggae wrote:
    terminator_x wrote:

    �

    I'd join their forum myself if it didn't seem like the cyber equivalent of going to Siberia. I'd rather post my thoughts where someone will actually see them!

    �

    Cyberia - Hahahahah!


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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    man the couple of people who post on that forum are angry little guys aren't they?

    Queenslander 3x a year.

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    almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    theprof wrote:
    man the couple of people who post on that forum are angry little guys aren't they?

    From: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/5055648/Herbert-joins-elite-list-with-repeat-victory-in-sports-awards 

    "I am really proud to be a part of the Wellington sporting landscape. Wellington is my home now, as it is the home of football," Herbert said.
     

    "Phoenix till they lose"

    Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

    Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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    over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    theprof wrote:
    man the couple of people who post on that forum are angry little guys aren't they?


    Latest embarrassing rubbish from Haywardovich/Ricleroc

    Under 17s underperform
    Come on Aaron, that's rubbish!
    Haywardovich

    26 June 2011, 16:55

    Posts: 388


    Watched the NZ Under 17 team go through the motions of being a football team against the US. This is the World Cup for heaven's sake! To go out and just play for a goal-less draw was disgraceful. Had we won, we would have gone top of the group! And the US was reduced to 10 players. Yet we didn't even try to score for most of the game.

    And there was City duo Aaron and Ramon sitting in the dugout looking like everything was going to plan. Not impressed at all.

    This was cynical and boring. At least the US tried to attack until they went a player down. Would have served NZ right if they'd nicked a late goal and sent us packing.
    Grasshopper

    26 June 2011, 22:41

    Posts: 38

    It did go to plan. They got through to the last 16. These tournaments are a lot more than just one game. We are now actually competitive on the world stage. I guess you will be supporting the USA for the rest of the tournament?
    Haywardovich

    27 June 2011, 7:49

    Posts: 388

    No, I won't be supporting the US but I still say playing endless back passes was cynical and boring and not in the spirit of the game. People paid good money to see a game of football not keep-ball. If that's our plan then it lacks ambition and courage. I was very disappointed. After the first two performances we should have had more belief in ourselves. Had we won the group we'd be playing a third placed team. As it is we'll probably face a group winner.

    If ACFC ever do that I'll be the first to voice my objection from the stand. I don't like negative play, like diving or time wasting. It ruins the greatest game on the planet. We must go to win games or we shouldn't be there.

    That non-event reminded me of the infamous Germany vs Austria WC match where neither tried to score just to keep out Algeria.

    Spud2011-06-27 22:52:51
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    'That non-event reminded me of the infamous Germany vs Austria WC match where neither tried to score just to keep out Algeria.'

    Was that the year Germany won the WC?
    It's actually impossible to win any competition if you don't progress out your group. Simple really even for those north of the Bombays.
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    over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    giggles.
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    over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

    Allegedly

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    over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Do we really need to be cutting and pasting from the ACFC forum? Especially when the subject of the post has nothing to do with ACFC itself?
     
    Admittedly, cutting and pasting from here is something they do a lot - but that's only because otherwise they'd have nothing to talk about.
     

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    Spud wrote:
    'That non-event reminded me of the infamous Germany vs Austria WC match where neither tried to score just to keep out Algeria.'

    Was that the year Germany won the WC?
    It's actually impossible to win any competition if you don't progress out your group. Simple really even for those north of the Bombays.


    No, Italy won that World Cup. Germans made the final.
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    over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Anyone else popping along to see ACFC against Rewa (Fiji) tonight at the new Bill McKinley artificial? Will probably go down for the first half then go home and watch the AB's.

    Its no longer a problem.

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    over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    Not going to the Rewa game but planning on getting along to watch the game vc CCM
     

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    over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    If I counted right, the score was 11-0 for Auckland City FC.
    Great facilities and a good crowd there too.
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    over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
    6-1 win over a refugee 11 at Seddon Fields yesterday the refugee side had a few decent players
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