He's got goal scoring abilities, is the motivation lacking???
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He's got goal scoring abilities, is the motivation lacking???
Yeah pretty much.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Nobody said Smalley successfully implemented 4-3-3. But that was the idea. In fact Smalley was a fairly major flop in the end, because he failed to get enough people on side. Mostly because he was f*cking hard work to deal with.
Quick guest appearance then I'll go, I understand the Oz plan is long term, but NSW was the only renegade state for change here (Football NSW was richer than the old Soccer Australia pre-2003) but I think all Oz States are on board now with the national body.
Interesting discussion, only had a good look at it this morning for the first time.
To be fair, this new Aussie chap hasn't been successful yet either. He's just got some media. So we'll see.
Quick guest appearance then I'll go, I understand the Oz plan is long term, but NSW was the only renegade state for change here (Football NSW was richer than the old Soccer Australia pre-2003) but I think all Oz States are on board now with the national body.
Interesting discussion, only had a good look at it this morning for the first time.
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Kennedy you're arguing with a 12 year old (no disrespect Tom).
Chances of a third South Island team are absolutely zero you'd have to say.
I agree!
Top flight clubs need to be selected based on the strength of the playing and supporter community in their locality. Just becasue there are vast tracks of land (containing a few towns) without a top flight team, does not mean that some injustice has occurred, and that an NZFC should be located there. Quite the opposite in fact.
Has anyone bothered to map where NZ's playing community is based? The geographic locations with the highest densities of players should be where the top fight teams come from, assuming that player numebrs also correlates to supporter base. Until the demographics are mapped, talk about where to locate teams is simply speculative and is going to get sidelined by personal attachments to regions.
Thats said, I would expect the data to show that the Auckland region might be capable of supporting one more team. After all, it is by far the biggest population centre.
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Chances of a third South Island team are absolutely zero you'd have to say.
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Well as of today we don't need another Auckland based team do we.
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North Shore and BoP are good. Shore would be good cause it is one of nzs's largest citys and bOp just cause closest there is between there is hb united and waikato
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bOp just cause closest there is between there is hb united and waikato
That is not a good reason to have an NZFC franchise.
HBU and Waikato are more than close enough to pick up any properly good players from the area. A third franchise there would be a mistake imho, notwithstanding the historical connection the Bay has with top level football.
My picks are for there to be a team in South Auckland and the addition of the Phoenix reserves to make a 10 team comp playing 3 rounds plus finals.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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My picks are for there to be a team in South Auckland and the addition of the Phoenix reserves to make a 10 team comp playing 3 rounds plus finals.
Has anyone mentioned a 'top of the south' side? Yes i know theres not as many people there as some other places, but when it comes to football I think the Nelson region is over looked. Nelson suburbs arent a bad side, they usually do alright in the Chatham Cup, and i wouldnt imagine it to be hard to entice some Wellington or Cantab players.
Same deal with BOP, its close-ish to Auckland and even closer to Waikato/Hawkes Bay... so shouldnt be hard to get players along from other franchises. And theres a lot of talent in BOP as it is.
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My picks are for there to be a team in South Auckland and the addition of the Phoenix reserves to make a 10 team comp playing 3 rounds plus finals.
Has anyone mentioned a 'top of the south' side? Yes i know theres not as many people there as some other places, but when it comes to football I think the Nelson region is over looked. Nelson suburbs arent a bad side, they usually do alright in the Chatham Cup, and i wouldnt imagine it to be hard to entice some Wellington or Cantab players.
Same deal with BOP, its close-ish to Auckland and even closer to Waikato/Hawkes Bay... so shouldnt be hard to get players along from other franchises. And theres a lot of talent in BOP as it is.
I saw Nelson Suburbs when they came up here to play Miramar Rangers in pre-season.
They'd get hammered at NZFC level, which means they'd have to recruit heavily from outside their region, and what's the point if that's the case? Just going to spend a fortune enticing players from other franchises?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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From what I hear around the traps, the South Auckland franchise is looking like the one to put your money on.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I saw Nelson Suburbs when they came up here to play Miramar Rangers in pre-season.
*Standard quote about how pre season doesn't count for anything*
Three for me, and two for them.
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My picks are for there to be a team in South Auckland and the addition of the Phoenix reserves to make a 10 team comp playing 3 rounds plus finals.
Has anyone mentioned a 'top of the south' side? Yes i know theres not as many people there as some other places, but when it comes to football I think the Nelson region is over looked. Nelson suburbs arent a bad side, they usually do alright in the Chatham Cup, and i wouldnt imagine it to be hard to entice some Wellington or Cantab players.
Same deal with BOP, its close-ish to Auckland and even closer to Waikato/Hawkes Bay... so shouldnt be hard to get players along from other franchises. And theres a lot of talent in BOP as it is.
I saw Nelson Suburbs when they came up here to play Miramar Rangers in pre-season.
They'd get hammered at NZFC level, which means they'd have to recruit heavily from outside their region, and what's the point if that's the case? Just going to spend a fortune enticing players from other franchises?
I dont think theyd have to recruit 'heavily', but yes they would probably need a hand from surrounding regions. But players from Wellington head to Manawatu and abroad, Keryn Jordan was playing for Gisbourne and Auckland at the same time. Players move all over the place and will continue to.
I think the easiest, safest and most likely option though will be another Auckland franchise. Kind of 'boring' in my opinion but yeah, It'l happen and they'l be ok. Probably top 3 like the other two...
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Where would a South Auckland FC play? Bill McKinley? Over at Fencibles? War Memorial Park in Manurewa? (At least they have a grandstand, even if it looks like it was made from leftover pieces of the Berlin Wall.)
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Bledisloe Park if Jag has anything to do with it.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Bledisloe Park if Jag has anything to do with it.
Well, once our new changing rooms are built.....
Actually, Growers Stadium might be a strong possibility.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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NZF must have made its decision by now. I thought I heard Michael Glading or something saying that the other clubs had once again kept the Nix reserves out. :( Any better information?
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Two key points in that article stand out to me:
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Does this mean we will continue to see a decline in facilities, moving further and further away from one of the original objectives of the NZFC which was to provide top class facilities from all participating NZFC franchises?
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So if the Nix reserves are granted entry into the NZFC will they have to provide a youth team? If so where are these extra 15-20 players going to come from and will the saturation of players at the Nix (1st team, Reserves and Youth team) blur the lines of a realistic pathway from Youth > Reserves > 1st team.
- The facilities criteria has been relaxed to reflect what is available to a wider number of potential applicants
Does this mean we will continue to see a decline in facilities, moving further and further away from one of the original objectives of the NZFC which was to provide top class facilities from all participating NZFC franchises?
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- Teams participating in the national league must also enter a team in the national men�s youth league
So if the Nix reserves are granted entry into the NZFC will they have to provide a youth team? If so where are these extra 15-20 players going to come from and will the saturation of players at the Nix (1st team, Reserves and Youth team) blur the lines of a realistic pathway from Youth > Reserves > 1st team.
Three for me, and two for them.
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NZF must have made its decision by now. I thought I heard Michael Glading or something saying that the other clubs had once again kept the Nix reserves out. :( Any better information?
Glading has said there is about zero chance of them being in the next comp - but sounds like they will have non-point games or something
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I heard it wasn't the clubs, but a problem with the required excemptions.
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yeah logistical nightmare
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You cant be serious????????
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anyone now when the NZFC draw/structure is due to be released?
I say tackle him in the face.
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