Bottom of the League Boys!!!
can any of you explain how that is good for the game in NZ?
happyted2008-03-15 00:06:06
So, if Canterbury finish last in the NZFC they are bad for Canterbury football and should be pulled from the NZFC ? I mean they finished last, so must be bad for the game in Canterbury.
In seven years Team Wellington will be the only side.
Unjustifiable point. Try again.
Hard News2008-03-15 00:30:10
In seven years Team Wellington will be the only side.
Unjustifiable point. Try again.
Hard News2008-03-15 00:30:10
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Don't really see the argument as Auckland or Wellington.
Most of the people on this messageboard are football fans (misguided or otherwise), the real test is if a culture exists in the longer term that will bowl up to watch their side come hell or high water.
AND, we can have fans that are really interested in the development of the game in this country and not just an opportunity to turn up every two weeks (in season) to watch a team that plays in a foreign countries league.
KIWI till I Die!
I�ve watched national league, regional football, junior football, youth league since I was ten and now I have the opportunity to watch the best footballers in the country as well as Australia every second weekend, it�s great. I still watch team wellington games, I did match reports on the central league for this very website as well as attempted to collate match reports for the Chatham Cup. That�s because I am a FOOTBALL FAN, I enjoy watching a better level of football than our semi-professional league will ever enjoy, but that does not mean that I don�t support New Zealand football.
The fact is that your minority views are irrelevant because they do not represent the future of football in this country. You are irrelevant.
Normo's coming home
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Don't really see the argument as Auckland or Wellington.
Most of the people on this messageboard are football fans (misguided or otherwise), the real test is if a culture exists in the longer term that will bowl up to watch their side come hell or high water.
AND, we can have fans that are really interested in the development of the game in this country and not just an opportunity to turn up every two weeks (in season) to watch a team that plays in a foreign countries league.
KIWI till I Die!
I�ve watched national league, regional football, junior football, youth league since I was ten and now I have the opportunity to watch the best footballers in the country as well as Australia every second weekend, it�s great. I still watch team wellington games, I did match reports on the central league for this very website as well as attempted to collate match reports for the Chatham Cup. That�s because I am a FOOTBALL FAN, I enjoy watching a better level of football than our semi-professional league will ever enjoy, but that does not mean that I don�t support New Zealand football.
The fact is that your minority views are irrelevant because they do not represent the future of football in this country. You are irrelevant.
Speaking of which, will you be gracing us with those match reports again this season? They were brilliant!
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So, if Canterbury finish last in the NZFC they are bad for Canterbury football and should be pulled from the NZFC ? I mean they finished last, so must be bad for the game in Canterbury.
In seven years Team Wellington will be the only side.
Unjustifiable point. Try again.
In seven years Team Wellington will be the only side.
Unjustifiable point. Try again.
It wasnt a point it was a question!
Do you know what nemesis means
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So, if Canterbury finish last in the NZFC they are bad for Canterbury football and should be pulled from the NZFC ? I mean they finished last, so must be bad for the game in Canterbury.
In seven years Team Wellington will be the only side.
Unjustifiable point. Try again.
In seven years Team Wellington will be the only side.
Unjustifiable point. Try again.
It wasnt a point it was a question!
i seriosuly don't get how u can ask the question of what good it does when you full well know the answer yet choose to ignore it.
10,000 people regularly to a football match in new zealand? is this good?
possible under20 team playing professionally? good?
more media coverage than in the NZFC's existance? good?
Sony sponsorship.. new zealand players playing for a new zealand based club...u see the point.
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1) Yes good but it is'nt a NZ football match is it?
2) How many of those u20's will be NZ players? thats assuming it ever happens
3) not good at all!!! More media coverage would help NZFC
4) Not good Money that might of been used for NZ football not Australian (I hope Sony deal is performance related for their sake as it wont cost them much!)
Finishing bottom of league yeah thats good!!!
2) How many of those u20's will be NZ players? thats assuming it ever happens
3) not good at all!!! More media coverage would help NZFC
4) Not good Money that might of been used for NZ football not Australian (I hope Sony deal is performance related for their sake as it wont cost them much!)
Finishing bottom of league yeah thats good!!!
Do you know what nemesis means
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happyted isn't that happy to be honest.
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He is very happy actually after spending two days at the Basin
seeing the Empire strike back!! Only one Phoenix shirt spotted as well
and he was Ginger
seeing the Empire strike back!! Only one Phoenix shirt spotted as well
and he was Ginger
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1) Yes good but it is'nt a NZ football match is it? Yes. It's played in Wellington in front of (a fairly reasonable crowd of) New Zealanders and the home team are the Wellington Phoenix.
2) How many of those u20's will be NZ players? thats assuming it ever happens That's a fair point. I would hope that, if it happens, a fair percentage of the squad would be NZ players
3) not good at all!!! More media coverage would help NZFC Bottom line - sh*t product. No-one in their right mind would shell out large amounts of cash to cover the NZFC. Used to get reasonable coverage and I don't recall the crowds flocking in as a result. are you writing regular letters to NZF and Sky about the low profile that the NZFC has? Or is it easier to blame everything on the Phoenix?
4) Not good Money that might of been used for NZ football not Australian (I hope Sony deal is performance related for their sake as it wont cost them much!) Maybe you have got the right contacts, but I certainly don't know what the money is going to be used for. It may well be that some of it filters back into the local game.
Finishing bottom of league yeah thats good!!! As HN suggested will we get rid of Hawkes Bay, Otago, Canterbury etc from the NZFC then. They're never going to win it are they?
2) How many of those u20's will be NZ players? thats assuming it ever happens That's a fair point. I would hope that, if it happens, a fair percentage of the squad would be NZ players
3) not good at all!!! More media coverage would help NZFC Bottom line - sh*t product. No-one in their right mind would shell out large amounts of cash to cover the NZFC. Used to get reasonable coverage and I don't recall the crowds flocking in as a result. are you writing regular letters to NZF and Sky about the low profile that the NZFC has? Or is it easier to blame everything on the Phoenix?
4) Not good Money that might of been used for NZ football not Australian (I hope Sony deal is performance related for their sake as it wont cost them much!) Maybe you have got the right contacts, but I certainly don't know what the money is going to be used for. It may well be that some of it filters back into the local game.
Finishing bottom of league yeah thats good!!! As HN suggested will we get rid of Hawkes Bay, Otago, Canterbury etc from the NZFC then. They're never going to win it are they?
It's getting old, Ted. I am aware that you don't give a sh*t what anybody thinks of you, but I applaud your support of your team and I believe that you feel passionately about football in New Zealand. Sadly, boiling every single point you make down to "You finished bottom of the league" is the written equivalent of sticking your tongue out and isn't really doing your cause much good.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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1) Yes good but it is'nt a NZ football match is it?
2) How many of those u20's will be NZ players? thats assuming it ever happens
3) not good at all!!! More media coverage would help NZFC
4) Not good Money that might of been used for NZ football not Australian (I hope Sony deal is performance related for their sake as it wont cost them much!)
Finishing bottom of league yeah thats good!!!
2) How many of those u20's will be NZ players? thats assuming it ever happens
3) not good at all!!! More media coverage would help NZFC
4) Not good Money that might of been used for NZ football not Australian (I hope Sony deal is performance related for their sake as it wont cost them much!)
Finishing bottom of league yeah thats good!!!
sigh all you can hang onto is the fact we finished bottom? what happens when were far off the bottom? what will you cling to then exactly?
1) it is a NZ football match. its a pro. NZ club playing against a Pro AUS club at a NZ stadium. please stop with all the vague definitions u cling to when calling the phoenix an aus club.
2)i would think most. when has phoenix management ever stated it would be about anything other than developing NZ talent?
3) its good. it raises the profile of Football in NZ, except for fools like paul henry who no one takes seriously anyway.
4)how could it be used for NZ football? (ofcourse u mean the NZFC)
now grumpyted. ask yourself this. if ur a young teen playing for ur club, what would u aspire to? a mediocre NZFC team, or the phoenix? professional playing against quality oppostion. there is no contest, i'm a player just like that, but older, and i know who i'd rather pin my hopes to playing for
muso2008-03-15 13:19:33
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Canterbury were in Final 2 years ago and have been top 4 as well
Hawke's Bay were bottom once
Otago bottom once
Manawatu once and were then 2nd and Minor Prems the next
so in the 4 years of the NZFC 4 different teams have finished in last place,
so Hard News point about kicking Canterbury out because they have finished last once
is hardly a relevant point
were as Kingz/Knights/Phoenix have been bottom for 5 years in a row at least
you can point out all the positives u like about crowds, admin, sponsorship and the rest
but surely the whole point of a Football Club is to perform on the field and win things something that ACFC and Waitakere have done recently but most of the media coverage has gone to a
Australian team that consistently finishes bottom of the League
were is the positive in that?
happyted2008-03-15 13:29:46
Hawke's Bay were bottom once
Otago bottom once
Manawatu once and were then 2nd and Minor Prems the next
so in the 4 years of the NZFC 4 different teams have finished in last place,
so Hard News point about kicking Canterbury out because they have finished last once
is hardly a relevant point
were as Kingz/Knights/Phoenix have been bottom for 5 years in a row at least
you can point out all the positives u like about crowds, admin, sponsorship and the rest
but surely the whole point of a Football Club is to perform on the field and win things something that ACFC and Waitakere have done recently but most of the media coverage has gone to a
Australian team that consistently finishes bottom of the League
were is the positive in that?
happyted2008-03-15 13:29:46
Do you know what nemesis means
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Wellington Phoenix have finished bottom only once.
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Once again the old it'll be better next year line
different team new start line
its the whole NZ team in Australia that I am opposed to not just Wellington
for reasons i have stated on this forum before
different team new start line
its the whole NZ team in Australia that I am opposed to not just Wellington
for reasons i have stated on this forum before
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Ted, I'm certainly not arguing with what ACFC or Waitakere have or haven't done. I'd also point out that the Wellington Phoenix have not 'consistently finished bottom of the league', they have finished bottom once. I don't really want to climb onto this roundabout 'cos it's not going anywhere. People like Terminator-X have nailed the argument a lot better than I can.
Think my point is that, if the A League franchise hadn't come to Wellington and NZ had no A League team, are you saying that the NZFC would be getting crowds of 20000 for every game, every game would be live on Sky and that millions of dollars would be pumped into developing the game? Nope, I don't think so either.
The impresssion I get is that you are actually very happy that the 'Nix exist because you can then, incorrectly, blame them and their supporters for all the ills of the game in New Zealand, instead of taking aim at more deserving targets.
Jag2008-03-15 13:46:33
Think my point is that, if the A League franchise hadn't come to Wellington and NZ had no A League team, are you saying that the NZFC would be getting crowds of 20000 for every game, every game would be live on Sky and that millions of dollars would be pumped into developing the game? Nope, I don't think so either.
The impresssion I get is that you are actually very happy that the 'Nix exist because you can then, incorrectly, blame them and their supporters for all the ills of the game in New Zealand, instead of taking aim at more deserving targets.
Jag2008-03-15 13:46:33
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I never said it will be better next season, I'm no psychic.
It is a shame that New Zealand is unable to sustain a professional football league. I would love something on the same scale as the A League played just in New Zealand. Until the NZFC does become professional and up to a quality standard, I am happy to have the Wellington Phoenix represent my city and footballing aspirations.
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The NZFC has no chance of getting anywhere near pro with the Kingz, Knights, Phoenix around. It is detrimental to our national league, simple as that. Can you imagine going to Chile and watching a national league game and then the guy next to you saying "Oh actually, our best team plays in the Argentinean league"
As someone once said "Ever felt you've been cheated?"
Our best All White performances have been off the back of our national league and we must try to elevate this. Kingz, Knights, Phoenix are a barrier.
Even the lack of promotion/relegation in our national league curtails ambition in the levels below.
Yes, we can have a pro national league, it was not that long ago that Perth Glory were the most professional outfit in Australia with only 9 full time players, this could be achievable, but not if we have an Australian team playing in our backyard.
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Rubbish.
How could one professional team prevent a whole professional league of at least 8 teams. You are laying blame on one team.
Why don't you lay blame on the NZF and the NZFC franchises like Auckland AFC, for not producing a marketable package?
WP are not to be blamed, but neither should the NZFC.
A pro league is possible despite the WP playing in the A-league, it just a matter of time and taking each stage of development slowly.
Even in Chile their national league is professional. Its a dumb suggestion you have just made.
Wait a moment, did you suggest that WP is the best NZ team by that example?
BTW Team Wellington had more crowd numbers than Auckland and Waitakere before the WP came to town and even more this season. So what does that say about Auckland again? AllWhitebelievr2008-03-15 18:44:51
How could one professional team prevent a whole professional league of at least 8 teams. You are laying blame on one team.
Why don't you lay blame on the NZF and the NZFC franchises like Auckland AFC, for not producing a marketable package?
WP are not to be blamed, but neither should the NZFC.
A pro league is possible despite the WP playing in the A-league, it just a matter of time and taking each stage of development slowly.
Even in Chile their national league is professional. Its a dumb suggestion you have just made.
Wait a moment, did you suggest that WP is the best NZ team by that example?
BTW Team Wellington had more crowd numbers than Auckland and Waitakere before the WP came to town and even more this season. So what does that say about Auckland again? AllWhitebelievr2008-03-15 18:44:51
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Canterbury were in Final 2 years ago and have been top 4 as well
Hawke's Bay were bottom once
Otago bottom once
Manawatu once and were then 2nd and Minor Prems the next
so in the 4 years of the NZFC 4 different teams have finished in last place,
so Hard News point about kicking Canterbury out because they have finished last once
is hardly a relevant point
were as Kingz/Knights/Phoenix have been bottom for 5 years in a row at least
you can point out all the positives u like about crowds, admin, sponsorship and the rest
but surely the whole point of a Football Club is to perform on the field and win things something that ACFC and Waitakere have done recently but most of the media coverage has gone to a
Australian team that consistently finishes bottom of the League
were is the positive in that?
Hawke's Bay were bottom once
Otago bottom once
Manawatu once and were then 2nd and Minor Prems the next
so in the 4 years of the NZFC 4 different teams have finished in last place,
so Hard News point about kicking Canterbury out because they have finished last once
is hardly a relevant point
were as Kingz/Knights/Phoenix have been bottom for 5 years in a row at least
you can point out all the positives u like about crowds, admin, sponsorship and the rest
but surely the whole point of a Football Club is to perform on the field and win things something that ACFC and Waitakere have done recently but most of the media coverage has gone to a
Australian team that consistently finishes bottom of the League
were is the positive in that?
you are an idiot
the Wharfies Dream team have been elevated six leagues in six years - from capital eight to capital two. They have picked up team of the year at Wharfies end of year gig for four years on the trot. Surely this winning run means that the country's media should be focussed soley on them as they are proven performers and people could take a lot of positives out of it...
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Other than the Western News, which was always tremendously loyal to junior western suburbs sporting excellence, the media hardly gave us a look in when the Karori Bears won the Coastland Cup three years in a row (83 - 85 I think). Our media can't always be trusted to get it right I'm afraid HappyTed.
We even won one final on extra time corners. Now surely that is a novel media angle. A better match resolution than pennos i still think - although it does fundamentally alter the strategy of defending in your own third.
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same old same old, they wont get to play because nzfc teams want to hold back the development of n.z football.Then they will have another poor showing at the club worldcup and what do u you know we get kicked out and dont have a chance in hell at getting back in.
3 CHEERS FOR THE NZFC YOU PRICKS
3 CHEERS FOR THE NZFC YOU PRICKS
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Clearly they dont get it right because a sh*te Australian team that hasnt won Jack
gets all the media attention from the NZ press
gets all the media attention from the NZ press
Do you know what nemesis means
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Ted you are a repetitive chap. It must be hard to be so miserable when it is summer, with sun and all.
I guess the local media must find it hard to see through all the heads of the fans at ACFC games (of whom I have been one on several occasions), and their positive, resourceful energy in off field networking, promoting the game in an exciting distinctively New Zealand fashion and having a great time while doing so must persuade the media that any additional attention is completely unnecessary.
you don't have an uncle called Geoff who used to play for Yorkshire do you?
cos you know that all that matters is you getting a hundred, the runs next to your name matter, and any additional beside the team are of no consequence...
what sort of a supporter or a sports fan are you that you can not be happy with your achievements unless the achievements or potential of others is degraded and derided?
Or, passing thought, are you the chap that thought it was a great idea to pickup James Anderson?
At least the Barmy Army tend to be gracious and thoroughly enjoy their time on tour...
I guess the local media must find it hard to see through all the heads of the fans at ACFC games (of whom I have been one on several occasions), and their positive, resourceful energy in off field networking, promoting the game in an exciting distinctively New Zealand fashion and having a great time while doing so must persuade the media that any additional attention is completely unnecessary.
you don't have an uncle called Geoff who used to play for Yorkshire do you?
cos you know that all that matters is you getting a hundred, the runs next to your name matter, and any additional beside the team are of no consequence...
what sort of a supporter or a sports fan are you that you can not be happy with your achievements unless the achievements or potential of others is degraded and derided?
Or, passing thought, are you the chap that thought it was a great idea to pickup James Anderson?
At least the Barmy Army tend to be gracious and thoroughly enjoy their time on tour...
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Mate,
Don't blame the NZFC teams. Blame the plonkers who set the franchise/club system up.
The Teams/Clubs/Franchises whatever can only work under rules/criteria set down. Only set up to control WCC prize money.
It belies believe we have a National League with no promotion, no prize money and no promotion/relegation.
With the success of the Phoenix our leaders have now changed tact. New cash cow......f*ck the NZFC.
If Phoenix end up representing Oceania, for whatever political reason, this will spell the end of the 8 franchises and NZF will need to reinvent the wheel YET again.
All in all we are a complete and utter f*ck up. Laughing stock of our oval ball cousins.
NZF have put our game in to disrepute. - 800k last count and still no accountability. Non performing Ceo on 200k ++ Can't wait to read his exit package.
and nkcroatia calls all involved in the domestic NZFZ pricks.
No wonder we're all grey and f*cking miserable in Auckland.
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He is very happy actually after spending two days at the Basin
seeing the Empire strike back!!
seeing the Empire strike back!!
Happyted = Smart Guy
He says that you shouldn't support the Phoenix because it supports Australian Football at the expense of New Zealand.
Yet, here he is supporting English Cricket.
You sir, are a dork.
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Ted, the problem with your argument is that you assume that the NZ media would report on the NZFC if the Phoenix, Knights, Kingz etc weren�t around and that Sony would sponsor Team Wellington and all would be right with the football world in NZ. But that�s not how the game works. There is a reason why Sony haven�t been involved with football previously, why there are no TV cameras at NZFC games and why the national softball league isn�t on TV - quality. It�s exactly the same as why Leo Bertos hasn�t played in NZ since he was 16. It�s taken the introduction o a more professionally packaged, professionally marketed and professionally run competition in NZ to get those benefits. The media don�t have a requirement to report on anything and in fact at the dominion post a new run was created solely for the Phoenix, not at the expense of any local football at all.
Interesting point from the FA cup results and draw over the weekend. Sepp Blatter has said that he will change the qualification rules so that Crdiff can represent England in European COmpatition if they qualify. Could be good for the Phoenix as could see them potentially playing in Asian competition where they belong. Although that wouldn�t solve the threat to representation issues for Oceania clubs which is yet to be addressed anywhere.
Dairyflat, I�m overseas now but never fear, someone (I think smithy at this stage) will be doing reports on the Central League.
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He is very happy actually after spending two days at the Basin
seeing the Empire strike back!!
seeing the Empire strike back!!
Happyted = Smart Guy
He says that you shouldn't support the Phoenix because it supports Australian Football at the expense of New Zealand.
Yet, here he is supporting English Cricket.
You sir, are a dork.
I'm English why would i support NZ when they are playing England?
and i also watch NZ whoever they are playin and Auckland cricket too
i fail to see your point
Do you know what nemesis means
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Ted, the problem with your argument is that you assume that the NZ media would report on the NZFC if the Phoenix, Knights, Kingz etc weren�t around and that Sony would sponsor Team Wellington and all would be right with the football world in NZ. But that�s not how the game works. There is a reason why Sony haven�t been involved with football previously, why there are no TV cameras at NZFC games and why the national softball league isn�t on TV - quality. It�s exactly the same as why Leo Bertos hasn�t played in NZ since he was 16. It�s taken the introduction o a more professionally packaged, professionally marketed and professionally run competition in NZ to get those benefits. The media don�t have a requirement to report on anything and in fact at the dominion post a new run was created solely for the Phoenix, not at the expense of any local football at all.
Interesting point from the FA cup results and draw over the weekend. Sepp Blatter has said that he will change the qualification rules so that Crdiff can represent England in European COmpatition if they qualify. Could be good for the Phoenix as could see them potentially playing in Asian competition where they belong. Although that wouldn�t solve the threat to representation issues for Oceania clubs which is yet to be addressed anywhere.
Dairyflat, I�m overseas now but never fear, someone (I think smithy at this stage) will be doing reports on the Central League.
Yes i agree that Sony probably wouldnt sponsor TW
and that the NZFC didnt get great coverage before the Phoenix but it did have its own TV show
did it not? now we only get ACFC and Waitakare highlights with Canterbury sometimes
are you saying the Phoenix had nothing to do with that?
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Ted you are a repetitive chap. It must be hard to be so miserable when it is summer, with sun and all.
I guess the local media must find it hard to see through all the heads of the fans at ACFC games (of whom I have been one on several occasions), and their positive, resourceful energy in off field networking, promoting the game in an exciting distinctively New Zealand fashion and having a great time while doing so must persuade the media that any additional attention is completely unnecessary.
you don't have an uncle called Geoff who used to play for Yorkshire do you?
cos you know that all that matters is you getting a hundred, the runs next to your name matter, and any additional beside the team are of no consequence...
what sort of a supporter or a sports fan are you that you can not be happy with your achievements unless the achievements or potential of others is degraded and derided?
Or, passing thought, are you the chap that thought it was a great idea to pickup James Anderson?
At least the Barmy Army tend to be gracious and thoroughly enjoy their time on tour...
I guess the local media must find it hard to see through all the heads of the fans at ACFC games (of whom I have been one on several occasions), and their positive, resourceful energy in off field networking, promoting the game in an exciting distinctively New Zealand fashion and having a great time while doing so must persuade the media that any additional attention is completely unnecessary.
you don't have an uncle called Geoff who used to play for Yorkshire do you?
cos you know that all that matters is you getting a hundred, the runs next to your name matter, and any additional beside the team are of no consequence...
what sort of a supporter or a sports fan are you that you can not be happy with your achievements unless the achievements or potential of others is degraded and derided?
Or, passing thought, are you the chap that thought it was a great idea to pickup James Anderson?
At least the Barmy Army tend to be gracious and thoroughly enjoy their time on tour...
edit - Hapyted, your response of name-calling is a poor effort - hence the deletion
Do you know what nemesis means
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Yes i agree that Sony probably wouldnt sponsor TW
and that the NZFC didnt get great coverage before the Phoenix but it did have its own TV show
did it not? now we only get ACFC and Waitakare highlights with Canterbury sometimes
are you saying the Phoenix had nothing to do with that?
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The NZFC highlights show ended long before the Phoenix was around so you can put that stick away as well Ted.
[QUOTE=happyted]Clearly they dont get it right because a sh*te Australian team that hasnt won Jack
gets all the media attention from the NZ press
and that the NZFC didnt get great coverage before the Phoenix but it did have its own TV show
did it not? now we only get ACFC and Waitakare highlights with Canterbury sometimes
are you saying the Phoenix had nothing to do with that?
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The NZFC highlights show ended long before the Phoenix was around so you can put that stick away as well Ted.
[QUOTE=happyted]Clearly they dont get it right because a sh*te Australian team that hasnt won Jack
gets all the media attention from the NZ press
The NZ Herald appears to me to have more coverage of Auckland and Waitakere than the Phoenix based on the daily news posted on the Herald website and on here. Despite the obvious lack of interest from the general Auckland readership.
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Long before?
what station u watching?
and i guess the Auckland teams would have more coverage now
than the aussie team seen as there wooden spoon winning season has ended
but of course there is a little bit more to NZ media than the herald is there not?
like TV 1 & 3 news Sky and radio sport to name a few
oh and thanks for the delete Tigers guess your mates with that other clown on here Feverish
what station u watching?
and i guess the Auckland teams would have more coverage now
than the aussie team seen as there wooden spoon winning season has ended
but of course there is a little bit more to NZ media than the herald is there not?
like TV 1 & 3 news Sky and radio sport to name a few
oh and thanks for the delete Tigers guess your mates with that other clown on here Feverish
Do you know what nemesis means
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He is very happy actually after spending two days at the Basin
seeing the Empire strike back!!
seeing the Empire strike back!!
Happyted = Smart Guy
He says that you shouldn't support the Phoenix because it supports Australian Football at the expense of New Zealand.
Yet, here he is supporting English Cricket.
You sir, are a dork.
tigers, what did happyted post to get deleted?
Obviously worse than dork
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read the rules
simple really
To be fair tigers, whatever he called me can't be worse than Geoff Boycott's nephew, even if that slander can be defended on the basis that it is completely factual...
whistles:
do doo do doo do do do do doo
always look on the bright side of life...
or perhaps...
Its all in the mind you know
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He is very happy actually after spending two days at the Basin
seeing the Empire strike back!!
seeing the Empire strike back!!
Happyted = Smart Guy
He says that you shouldn't support the Phoenix because it supports Australian Football at the expense of New Zealand.
Yet, here he is supporting English Cricket.
You sir, are a dork.
tigers, what did happyted post to get deleted?
Obviously worse than dork
implicit in your question, is a query re consistency
I usually don't bother with this topic - so did not see the post from Cnut
though having looked at a few posts, I reckon there's 1 or 2 I'd have deleted if I'd been online when they'd been posted (a bit late now)
re specifics - I regard the term HT used as worse than Dork and the one word insult was its only content, so there was nothing to give it any merit - therefore "gone"
to be honest this topic has very little to recommend it and is overdue for being closed, but there are a few mods who contribute so I'll leave it to them to close it when they've had enough
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He is very happy actually after spending two days at the Basin
seeing the Empire strike back!!
seeing the Empire strike back!!
Happyted = Smart Guy
He says that you shouldn't support the Phoenix because it supports Australian Football at the expense of New Zealand.
Yet, here he is supporting English Cricket.
You sir, are a dork.
tigers, what did happyted post to get deleted?
Obviously worse than dork
implicit in your question, is a query re consistency
I usually don't bother with this topic - so did not see the post from Cnut
though having looked at a few posts, I reckon there's 1 or 2 I'd have deleted if I'd been online when they'd been posted (a bit late now)
re specifics - I regard the term HT used as worse than Dork and the one word insult was its only content, so there was nothing to give it any merit - therefore "gone"
to be honest this topic has very little to recommend it and is overdue for being closed, but there are a few mods who contribute so I'll leave it to them to close it when they've had enough
Good reply, fair enough.
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Billy & Ted you've got to move on...
Facts are the Phoenix are great for football...Junior registrations are up over 20%...rugby people are talking and walking football and its a shame if you guys are missing out on the buzz!
Its not an NZFC versus the Phoenix thing in fact comparing the two is ridiculous.
What we really want is the Phoenix doing brilliantly well and also develop the NZFC to a semi-pro status. This will improve product quality whereby TV is justifiable and players can get paid to put in the required time/training to raise the standard. That will need us to share the wealth amongst the regions which could be a problem aye!!!
Keep building the NZFC and support the Phoenix...must have both because the NZFC alone won't get the required resources that the A league attracts!
Facts are the Phoenix are great for football...Junior registrations are up over 20%...rugby people are talking and walking football and its a shame if you guys are missing out on the buzz!
Its not an NZFC versus the Phoenix thing in fact comparing the two is ridiculous.
What we really want is the Phoenix doing brilliantly well and also develop the NZFC to a semi-pro status. This will improve product quality whereby TV is justifiable and players can get paid to put in the required time/training to raise the standard. That will need us to share the wealth amongst the regions which could be a problem aye!!!
Keep building the NZFC and support the Phoenix...must have both because the NZFC alone won't get the required resources that the A league attracts!
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He is very happy actually after spending two days at the Basin
seeing the Empire strike back!!
seeing the Empire strike back!!
Happyted = Smart Guy
He says that you shouldn't support the Phoenix because it supports Australian Football at the expense of New Zealand.
Yet, here he is supporting English Cricket.
You sir, are a dork.
I'm English why would i support NZ when they are playing England?
and i also watch NZ whoever they are playin and Auckland cricket too
i fail to see your point
ok so it's become clearer now. You arent even a kiwi and you are telling the forum how to run football in this country by coming on as some patriotic martyr. Leave the discussion to those that know what they are talking about aye fella?
Hope you are upset that the English cricket team are hogging all the media interest that would otherwise go to Akld domestic cricket (as per your theory)
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Long before?
what station u watching?
what station u watching?
The Herald observation was during the season, it would have been pointless otherwise.
The NZFC highlights show ended after V2 of the NZFC, I know this as I know people who made it. The Phoenix did not exist for at least 12 months after that decision was made. Not even your blinkered and skewed logic can claim a club that didn't exist impacted the NZFC highlights show.
You want to complain about that talk to NZ football, they pulled the funding... and I guess the sponsors just held on to their money waiting for the non-existent Phoenix to exist. In fact, maybe I should get next weeks Lotto numbers off those companies.
Hard News2008-03-17 14:15:55
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Bump!
Some interesting comments by the OFC's Tai Nicholas in the Herald yesterday:
"We are helping Waitakere big time. They are doing the right things and we are keen to do all we can to assist them. If it is all done right and they still get a hiding we will all know where we stand which could have a bearing on future Oceania representation at the tournament."
While Waitakere and Auckland City have already qualified to play the 2008-09 O-League, the format of that competition has yet to be confirmed but Nicholas is hopeful after meetings in Noumea on June 1 he will have a clearer picture.
"We must again decide how many New Zealand teams will be involved; what role the Phoenix will play; and where and when matches will be scheduled," said Nicholas. "It could be the two New Zealand teams might play in different groups next time which would help spread interest."
So, the OFC are clearly still concerned about Oceania representation at the Club World Cup (no pressure Waitakere!) and the Phoenix are clearly still in the O-League picture, with some more news possibly after June 1.
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