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Eduardo Dive

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

he has his arsenal googles on so he wont admit it i dont mind arsenal they play good football have great players but arsenal shouldnt have moaned about his ban

do you know what a full stop is? Or a comma? I'm sorry to undermine your intelligence, but that post and the one on the previous page where you said...:

"lol it would help if there was contact for there too be evidence but there was no contact lol point out where the contact is ??? "

saying 'lol' does not count as punctuation. and in that case it should be 'to' and not 'too'.

tool.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

Toffeeman wrote:

Eduardo got away with it, scored directly from it, got punished fairly then got off with nothing at all. How does that compare?

Because UEFA had no official parameters to deal with the incident, had not deal with it with any degree of consistency prior to the incident, and indicated it would not treat similar incidents in the future with any degree of consistency.
Therefore Eduardo's initial punishment was not only heavy-handed, but also on very shaky administrative and legal ground. They bowed to the media pressure, then thought about the second time, and thought better of it.

yeah, for me the only problem I had with his ban is that UEFA said they were not going to ban anyone else ever again, it was just this one incident because they, like el grap said, bowed to the pressure. I would be all for a mandatory ban on divers, and diving incidents; that would be perfect. However, eduardo's ban was going to be a one off. If this ban had of lead to a standard where all attempts to deceive the referee were equally punished then that would have been just fine.
I always thought it was a dive, still do think it was one. I also think that same weekend Tony Hibbert pulled off an equally abd dive against Burnley, and won a penalty and it never got one word spoken about it. Its just that incosistency that annoys me.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think it's pretty hard to argue against that being a dive but fair enough the ban was over turned seeing as its just a one off event and hardly consistent at all.

As for the arsenal bias claims, maybe look in some Chelsea threads etc and you'll see the arsenal fans giving as good as they get.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

So the ban is overturned?

LOL you fella's gotta chill out aye, no doubt its a dive. But its not worthy of even considering a ban

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

francsernal wrote:

ScottyBoy wrote:

he has his arsenal googles on so he wont admit it i dont mind arsenal they play good football have great players but arsenal shouldnt have moaned about his ban

ï¿½do you know what a full stop is? Or a comma?ï¿½ I'm sorry to undermine your intelligence, but that post and the one on the previous pageï¿½where you said...:"lol it would help if there was contact for there too be evidence but there was no contact lol point out where the contact is ??? "ï¿½ saying 'lol' does not count as punctuation. and in that case it should be 'to' and not 'too'. tool.

well was it 4-2????? and rubbish defending! sounds like you're still licking you're wounds.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

do you support manchester city? I didn't know that. I was only referring to your incompetence, not anything to do with football.

oh, and really, the scoreboard gag already? tut tut tut.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

and now i look back on the adebayor celebration thread and you criticse Uber's grammar?!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

and you are an arsenal fan end of discussion. We all have a problem and that is one big problem to have

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I'm not going to get into an argument with a person who lists their interests on their profile as : "football, woman"

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

mate at the end of the day we all aren't as cool as you and we all worship you TUI ADVERT YEAH RIGHT

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wowee, what a disgusting thread.

I just searched as far back as my stomach let me, through all of the garbage everyone is talking, as far as my stomach let me (which, to be honest, was about 4 pages) and found the following:

- Most of the Arsenal fans that are writing on this thread HAVE said it was a dive. I don't think anyone can pull that wall over anyones eyes.

- The celebrations that the ban was removed was solely down to two facts: The ban was a one-off, inconsistent, in your face, slap across the knuckles, never to be repeated again, ban on an Arsenal player. Regardless if it was cheating, which diving is, that certainly isn't fair. And the other reason, is well, duh! he is an Arsenal player - of course some people will be chuffed he can play in our Champions League games.

- Several Arsenal fans have expressed dissapointment that the ban was ruled out for the exact reason that this means the intentions of UEFA is not to continue with cracking down on diving. A sad thing for football I think.

So what is the deal with this thread? Certain people got really carried away!

So, to recap:

It was a dive.

I'm not sure anyone denied that. They probably expressed their disspointment he was banned though.

People celebrated in the streets, the ban on Eduardo was lifted.

Some people mourned the death of the possibility UEFA was trying to eradicate diving.

If there is a player banned, this should be consistent - and I am all for that.

Now, how about we all talk sense?

EDIT: ScottyBoy - you really do seem to be a knob. Lets all lift our game and talk some sense, this topic has the chance to actually be fairly interesting, but has somehow degraded to this! Being cool has nothing to do with anything - making sense however..NZgooner2009-09-15 22:07:49

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

wow this thread went crazy this evening...

For the record i completely agree with francsernal's post at the top of this page...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

mate i only said it was a dive wasn't disputing that fact. Was only commenting on the fact that maybe a yellow or red card would of been a fair punishment

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I have gone back to page 8 and cannot see any reference or opinion matching that, but regardless - you probably have said that.

The deal is though, the referee and his assistant at the time did not see anything wrong with it - hence there being an investigation after the game and the subsequent ban. Hindsight is great, and if referees see a penalty as fair, put post game the world erupts about diving, then perhaps bans should be around.

I think they will begin to discuss some actual guidelines around this now, and I hope so too!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

it is over bring on champions league

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The point is that perhaps the ban should've been overturned because punishment didn't fit the crime - this would've been fair enough.

What IS quite frankly amazing is that Arsenal have somehow produced 'evidence' that it was NOT a dive, and this is the problem I have with the decision!

What evidence, other than the multiple replays that everyone has seen with their own eyes, can Arsenal possibly have produced???

As for it being interesting it wasn't in the refs report - who's never heard of a ref failing to admit he was wrong before?

I just want to know what Arsenal, the ref, and UEFA have seen in the replays that every other person in the world hasn't?

And how exactly are people at UEFA 'qualified' to decide whether it was a dive?! Do they have a diploma in spotting contact in football TV replays or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Steve-O wrote:

What IS quite frankly amazing is that Arsenal have somehow produced 'evidence' that it was NOT a dive, and this is the problem I have with the decision!

For the first, and only time in my life (at least till I become a grumpy old man), I agree with Steve-O. To suggest Arsenal produced evidence that it wasn't a dive is ludicrous.

What Arsenal would've talked about at the appeal UEFA's total inconsistency, highlighted other examples where players have got off and questioned why Eduardo should get punished etc., as well as possibly using a doctor to suggest that because of Eduardo's injury he jumped to evade the lunge etc. etc. Wenger suggested that after the game. They would've found a loophole and pushed it.

For the record, he should never have been banned, unless UEFA make a statement that they will ban players from now on who dive.

Paulinho2009-09-16 14:25:21

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

francsernal wrote:

I'm not going to get into an argument with a person who lists their interests on their profile as : "football, woman"

Yeah, it was ridiculous they were ever going to ban him and not anybody else afterwards.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Steve-O wrote:

As for it being interesting it wasn't in the refs report - who's never heard of a ref failing to admit he was wrong before?

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I just want to know what Arsenal, the ref, and UEFA have seen in the replays that every other person in the world hasn't?

The referee assessor didn't mention it either.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Water. Bridge. Under.

And also accordingly to 'Wafer.

How old is Leggy? Is he 12 or 72?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Surprise surprise.. who scored the winner.. hmm

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

are you ever going to stop crying?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

No. Never.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Nice dive for the Liege penalty

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

is mcgeady still suspended after he dived for that card

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

So glad to see the ban overturned and then Eddy to score the winner today, I bet that hurt a lot of people.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Arsenal wrote:

So glad to see the ban overturned and then Eddy to score the winner today, I bet that hurt a lot of people.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

dangerous laughing about this now ye Arsenal Fans
because you know serial divers like Rooney or Ronaldo will haunt us later in season

and people will say it's only fittin...
and we will lament UEFA's lack of spine
ala Hleb/Babel disaster

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

foal30 wrote:

ala Hleb/Babel disaster

that was horrible.

But i couldnt resist baiting, scottyboy is a twat

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

oh so big of you to be all high and mighty on the forum nice call by the way wish i was that cool

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

sorry i meant scottishbhoy

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

well, maybe both of yas

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