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Manchester United

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14 Feb 00:31

wow, 1-1 away. wow

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14 Feb 02:16

 1-1 was a good result but RM will not be happy. They are a far better side than Utd but one has to give credit to the way we defended, especially  de Gea. He pulled off some outstanding saves. Even Rio was OK.

RVP should have scored in  the last min of the game.

Would have to fancy our chances in the return leg.                                                                                                           

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14 Feb 09:53 · edited 14 Feb 19:56 · History

Ive been critical of jones since he came back from injury but thought he was tireless this morning. De Gea will do me, hopefully high ball technique improves with experience. Wellbeck  good and the defence hung in. Both teams could win it. Should be a cracking return leg.

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14 Feb 19:39

Should be a great 2nd leg. If Real get through, what price on a mourinho touchline sprint?

14 Feb 19:56

Is that recommended procedure for job interviews?

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18 Feb 08:12 · edited 18 Feb 09:21 · History

 Lets hope AF does not pick his 2nd X1 like he has in the past. In 2008/9 we should have hammered Everton in the semis  but lost on penalties. The problem with doing this is that the players selected could think that AF would not  have picked them unless he thought they would bolt in. Perhaps a bit of complacency.

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19 Feb 04:24

 Just did enough for the win. Should have scored 4/5.

The one good thing was that Nani was back to his old self.

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20 Feb 01:12

Still alive in 3 competitions. That's a good thing, right?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

20 Feb 01:27

Still alive in 3 competitions. That's a good thing, right?



I'm not sure it is.

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23 Feb 14:30

Give us the three points please. Our need is greater than yours. Surely you can't lose a 12 point lead can you?

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24 Feb 07:01

 Rafael's goal was really the game changer. One of the best of the season. QPR are not a bad side and I really hope they stay up.

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28 Feb 08:11

So next 9 days is 3 competitions (all home games!): Norwich in the league, Madrid in Champions league and Chelsea FA Cup.

Dare to dream?

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28 Feb 09:05

 Just want the 3 points against Norwich, the rest is a bonus.

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03 Mar 07:35

Pretty ordinary performance in the first half but the last 20 mins were unbelievable. Kagawa  was really impressive. Apart from his goals he has proved to me that Asian players are more supple and their first touch is better than most.

Another couple of wins and the title will be ours. Here is hoping.

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03 Mar 23:04

Yeah agreed re Canaries had plenty territory and possession but De Gea was never tested.

I like Kagawa. He looks to be intelligent in his passing and movement; however he naturally plays very centrally (sort of a no. 10 in behind the striker role) and I thought our attack was overly predictable - down the right hand side because we effectively had no left sided midfield/winger, unless Evra got forward on the left hand side. Things changed when Danny came on. 

I'm not claiming the league until it's mathematically impossible not to of course. In the meantime I'm hoping fixture congestion is our biggest issue!

Kotahitanga. We are one.

04 Mar 21:43

Nani or Valencia to help out Rafael v Ronaldo?

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04 Mar 22:01

Nani or Valencia to help out Rafael v Ronaldo?



Valencia.
I'm going to miss this game in the morning. Traveling.

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05 Mar 20:44 · edited 05 Mar 20:45 · History

Champions league HT report: 0-0 and we've had 2 or 3 chances and De Gea not truly tested yet. Surprise starting line up sees Rooney , Kagawa, Valencia on the bench. Giggs has been pretty magnificent, Welbeck and Nani providing lots of attack. Stays like this we're through. If Real score, we need 2. Squeaky bum time!!!!!!

Kotahitanga. We are one.

05 Mar 21:32


Three for me, and two for them.

05 Mar 21:38

God that was good. 

05 Mar 21:46

Arsenal supporters - get an effing life FFS.

That Turk ref decision ruined the whole tie. Game over from then. It was never a red.


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05 Mar 21:52

A little unlucky for the red card - turned the game. Lopez played really well and made sure of Mardrid's progression.

Interesting quote from Mourinho: Mourinho stops quickly to say to ITV: "Independent of the decision, the best team lost. We didn't deserve to win."

Now to focus on a domestic double.

05 Mar 22:59 · edited 05 Mar 22:59 · History

Arsenal supporters - get an effing life FFS.

That Turk ref decision ruined the whole tie. Game over from then. It was never a red.



this seriously. and also the second bit just as seriously.
06 Mar 03:32

Yet when the Arse get dumped, some Man U fans are quick to give them stick. Kitchen, & heat spring to mind.

Total respect for Ronaldo and how he conducted himself after scoring the goal. Other than Barca, I don't think United could have drawn a tougher opposition. Two tough games. Pretty sad that you're only 12 points in the lead with 10 games to go. Yet another Premiership in the cabinet. You guys must get bored winning the title..

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06 Mar 03:43

No stick from me. We're more than likely going to get dumped out by Bayern and at least you are pretty much gauranteed CL football next season. Not like Arsenal. You lost to a very good team by one goal on aggregate and but for the red card, probably would have won.

06 Mar 04:11

Arsenal supporters - get an effing life FFS.

That Turk ref decision ruined the whole tie. Game over from then. It was never a red.

Well within the laws to send him off.

 

06 Mar 04:15

 Did not see the game but wife rang me to say Utd were 1-0 and playing well. Can't comment on red card, but the result just not surprise me and I am not too unhappy as we can now get on with trying to win the league.

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06 Mar 04:43

2ndBest wrote:

Arsenal supporters - get an effing life FFS.

That Turk ref decision ruined the whole tie. Game over from then. It was never a red.

Well within the laws to send him off.

 



Quoting rules means zip.
Perhaps this is more to the point.


http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1364322/mourinho:-real-madrid-were-second-best?cc=3436

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06 Mar 04:57

2ndBest wrote:

Arsenal supporters - get an effing life FFS.

That Turk ref decision ruined the whole tie. Game over from then. It was never a red.

Well within the laws to send him off.

 

Wasn't a tackle.

A fan is a fan.

06 Mar 04:59 · edited 06 Mar 05:00 · History

 What was it then? He didn't have the ball. If it isn't a tackle, then it's an straight up assult.

06 Mar 05:00

Leggy wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Arsenal supporters - get an effing life FFS.

That Turk ref decision ruined the whole tie. Game over from then. It was never a red.

Well within the laws to send him off.

 



Quoting rules means zip.
Perhaps this is more to the point.


http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1364322/mourinho:-real-madrid-were-second-best?cc=3436



Ha! Right. So I shouldn't quote the rules of the game we play?


06 Mar 05:02

 Nani put himself in that situation because he had poor spatial awareness. If he knew the player was there, he should have realised he wouldn't get the ball, and pulled out.


06 Mar 05:41

2ndBest wrote:

Leggy wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Arsenal supporters - get an effing life FFS.

That Turk ref decision ruined the whole tie. Game over from then. It was never a red.

Well within the laws to send him off.

 



Quoting rules means zip.
Perhaps this is more to the point.


http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1364322/mourinho:-real-madrid-were-second-best?cc=3436



Ha! Right. So I shouldn't quote the rules of the game we play?




The ref makes the final call on what he has seen. If they were to  ''ref by the rules' it would be stop/start every few mins..
  I thought you were an ex goalkeeper/player.?

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06 Mar 05:50

2ndBest wrote:

 Nani put himself in that situation because he had poor spatial awareness. If he knew the player was there, he should have realised he wouldn't get the ball, and pulled out.


I assume he would have had some idea that Arbeloa was in the vicinity, just that since the ball was coming from over his shoulder and trying to the control the ball he would have lost visual contact with Arbeloa for enough time to not have seen Arbeloa close the space where Nani was trying to control the ball. From the ref's perspective he can come to the conclusion that it was serious foul play, I do think it is unlucky as I think a majority of ref's wont see it as serious foul play and probably only result in a yellow. I did miss the ball striking Rafael on the arm - might have been a stronger case for that being a red in hindsight and also a penalty?

06 Mar 06:10 · edited 06 Mar 06:14 · History

Roy Keane said it was red.


He also told your supporters to stop being bitter.


I think you should listen to your once violent and often thuggish former captain.

Three for me, and two for them.

06 Mar 06:11

Bullion wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

 Nani put himself in that situation because he had poor spatial awareness. If he knew the player was there, he should have realised he wouldn't get the ball, and pulled out.


I assume he would have had some idea that Arbeloa was in the vicinity, just that since the ball was coming from over his shoulder and trying to the control the ball he would have lost visual contact with Arbeloa for enough time to not have seen Arbeloa close the space where Nani was trying to control the ball. From the ref's perspective he can come to the conclusion that it was serious foul play, I do think it is unlucky as I think a majority of ref's wont see it as serious foul play and probably only result in a yellow. I did miss the ball striking Rafael on the arm - might have been a stronger case for that being a red in hindsight and also a penalty?

The ball was headed into Rafael's arm from 2 yards away, there was no way he could have intentionally got his arm in the way in time, therefore it was correctly deemed to not be a handball. 

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06 Mar 06:41

Buffon II wrote:

Roy Keane said it was red.


He also told your supporters to stop being bitter.


I think you should listen to your once violent and often thuggish former captain.



Perhaps you should listen to some of YOUR former players on AW. Perhaps Stewart Robson.
You are only on here cause Utd lost. You and your sort hide for weeks on the Arse thread when lose. Lets see where you are after your next  Champ League game.

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06 Mar 07:18

patrick478 wrote:

Bullion wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

 Nani put himself in that situation because he had poor spatial awareness. If he knew the player was there, he should have realised he wouldn't get the ball, and pulled out.


I assume he would have had some idea that Arbeloa was in the vicinity, just that since the ball was coming from over his shoulder and trying to the control the ball he would have lost visual contact with Arbeloa for enough time to not have seen Arbeloa close the space where Nani was trying to control the ball. From the ref's perspective he can come to the conclusion that it was serious foul play, I do think it is unlucky as I think a majority of ref's wont see it as serious foul play and probably only result in a yellow. I did miss the ball striking Rafael on the arm - might have been a stronger case for that being a red in hindsight and also a penalty?

The ball was headed into Rafael's arm from 2 yards away, there was no way he could have intentionally got his arm in the way in time, therefore it was correctly deemed to not be a handball. 

Penalty.

A fan is a fan.

06 Mar 07:27

Leggy wrote:

The ref makes the final call on what he has seen. If they were to  ''ref by the rules' it would be stop/start every few mins..
  I thought you were an ex goalkeeper/player.?


Yup but he bases that on the LOTG. By quoting the laws, most people should be able to see how the ref saw it. Whether everyone agrees worth it is a different story.

I am. But being an ex player, or a coach for that matter, doesn't mean you know the rules.
06 Mar 07:29

There is no way Rafael could have deliberately handled the ball, nobody has a reaction time that impressive.


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