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08 May 21:49
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08 May 23:23 · edited 08 May 23:34 · History

 Seems Rooney wants away to Bundesliga. Given the history between him and Moyes it'll be interesting to see how that one plays out. It has been 9 years at United for Wazza. Does seem the right time if he wants a Euro experience.

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08 May 23:47

Wow never thought about the moyes-rooney connection there. Wonder how their relationship played out when rooney left?

08 May 23:54

Excellent article from The Guardian's Daniel Taylor 

I think the key thing in any appointment for United is whether the person can adapt to the club's culture and ethos. As appealing as Mourinho might be on various levels, he wouldn't fit the culture.

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08 May 23:58

Solskjaer could actually be a decent bet


09 May 00:18

paulm wrote:

Wow never thought about the moyes-rooney connection there. Wonder how their relationship played out when rooney left?


From The Guardian:
After Rooney moved to United, he and Moyes fell out, with the Scot suing the player regarding allegations he made in an autobiography. But after Rooney made a personal apology three years ago the pair's relationship is thought to be healthy.

Maybe WR thinks he can make a fresh start under Moyes? Maybe it's just time to go.

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09 May 00:19

playwithFire wrote:

Solskjaer could actually be a decent bet


In 10 years time after he has managed at EPL or tier 1 Euro league level.

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09 May 00:32

Meh I'd hire him. Look at Guardiola as evidence of a success.

He knows the culture of the club.
Is respected by fans and staff. 
Has coached junior sides for club
Will be given time


09 May 01:32

playwithFire wrote:

Solskjaer could actually be a decent bet

His team is last after 7/8 games

09 May 01:35

playwithFire wrote:

Will be given time

Reckon? Man U are a listed company. One sniff that they won't make the top 4 and the coach will be gone.

09 May 08:02

2ndBest wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

Will be given time

Reckon? Man U are a listed company. One sniff that they won't make the top 4 and the coach will be gone.


That only happens when you have either Eccleston/Briatore in charge or the Russian down the RD at Chelski.
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09 May 08:38

2ndBest wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

Will be given time

Reckon? Man U are a listed company. One sniff that they won't make the top 4 and the coach will be gone.



Most people on here will know that you are probably the only City supporter in NZ hence your bias. Utd have tradition and history.
United have only had 8 managers since 1945, unlike City that have had about 40.
That about sums it up.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

09 May 09:02

Leggy wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

Will be given time

Reckon? Man U are a listed company. One sniff that they won't make the top 4 and the coach will be gone.



Most people on here will know that you are probably the only City supporter in NZ hence your bias. Utd have tradition and history.
United have only had 8 managers since 1945, unlike City that have had about 40.
That about sums it up.

They were not owned by the Glazers when Fergie took control.  I know it is all entirely guess work but I do not think Glazer would have allowed Fergie the free reign and the time to win his first silverware that he was afforded at the time.

Things have moved on a lot since Fergie took control and started having some success. 
09 May 11:47

Leggy wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

Will be given time

Reckon? Man U are a listed company. One sniff that they won't make the top 4 and the coach will be gone.



Most people on here will know that you are probably the only City supporter in NZ hence your bias. Utd have tradition and history.
United have only had 8 managers since 1945, unlike City that have had about 40.
That about sums it up.

I know it is not possible with the way this website gets ruined every 6 months or so, but this quote will look very funny in about 12 years, when Man Utd are going through their 7th manager in 10 years.  
The game has changed - West Ham had 5 managers between 1901 and 1989, and Man Utd are able to maintain a statistic like that (8 managers in 45 years) because they got a manager in at a time before football changed (and before you say "Fergie would have been successful in any era", he was very close to being sacked from Man Utd in 1990 when Robbins scored the last minute equaliser in the 3rd round of the FA Cup tie - do you think he would have lasted that long now?)

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Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

09 May 18:27

Moyles on a 6 year contract. I will be very shocked if he is in charge at the start of the 15/16 season

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

09 May 19:59

I agree with FM. The question here isn't whether Moyes has got what it takes, the question is whether the current mgmt and Board of United have got what it takes. Despite all the talk of wanting continuity and stability as soon as the going gets just a little bit tough they are the ones who are most likely to blink and sack the manager.

Consider this - Moyes' 6 year contract is the same length of time it took Ferguson to win his first league title at United. Does anyone truly believe that Moyes will be given anything like the same leeway?

09 May 20:09

Legendary manager and I feel a bit sad that he is going. I've certainly never known united without him and he was a truly great adversary.

Moyes will under-perform relative to Fergie for sure. I actually think you guys are going to do an Arsenal over the next few years with top four finishes as you seek to spend very little (and pay back the debt your owners saddled you with, which is obviously very different to the Arsenal model but same tight-fistedness I am sure you can appreciate). 

09 May 20:38

Leggy wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

Will be given time

Reckon? Man U are a listed company. One sniff that they won't make the top 4 and the coach will be gone.



Most people on here will know that you are probably the only City supporter in NZ hence your bias. Utd have tradition and history.
United have only had 8 managers since 1945, unlike City that have had about 40.
That about sums it up.

There's no bias in that statement whatsoever. 
The only reason the retirement has even been announced is because ManU are a listed company on the NYSE and therefore legally have to disclose anything that may affect their share price. It's been reported that Fergie would've preferred to wait until next week or the week after, but once a rumour got out they had to make a statement. Same goes for Moyes' appointment - I'm sure they would've preferred more time for all of this but they're forced to behave differently to try and keep investors happy. 



09 May 22:55

All the best to Moyes, although I doubt he will get the same amount of patience and trust as Fergie had.

It will be very interesting to see Man U without Ferguson at the helm.

I hope Man U can keep going with the stability that every other big club (bar Arsenal) can learn from.


Seen some good pics come up on Twitter

And the moment Fergie picked Moyes:

09 May 23:17

Frankie Mac wrote:

Leggy wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

Will be given time

Reckon? Man U are a listed company. One sniff that they won't make the top 4 and the coach will be gone.



Most people on here will know that you are probably the only City supporter in NZ hence your bias. Utd have tradition and history.
United have only had 8 managers since 1945, unlike City that have had about 40.
That about sums it up.

I know it is not possible with the way this website gets ruined every 6 months or so, but this quote will look very funny in about 12 years, when Man Utd are going through their 7th manager in 10 years.  
The game has changed - West Ham had 5 managers between 1901 and 1989, and Man Utd are able to maintain a statistic like that (8 managers in 45 years) because they got a manager in at a time before football changed (and before you say "Fergie would have been successful in any era", he was very close to being sacked from Man Utd in 1990 when Robbins scored the last minute equaliser in the 3rd round of the FA Cup tie - do you think he would have lasted that long now?)

this took an extraordinary amount of time to type last night

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

10 May 01:01

That second paragraph was quite the sentence - a dash, a comma and two sets of brackets. Very impressive.

10 May 01:34

yeah, I nearly drowned trying to read that back to myself

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

12 May 21:02 · edited 12 May 21:03 · History

Surprising (not so sure - statue, grandstand naming this last season) but swift managerial change to safe pair of hands Moyes, who will pleasantly surprise a few of us yet i reckon. Business done and dusted; now all the managerial talk is of more comings and goings at Chelsea, Wigan, Everton, Man City and probably more yet to be announced.

So, next on the agenda is Mr W. Rooney, who wants away. For whatever reason - and it could be one of many - I'd let him go and get best price. Thoughts?

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12 May 23:06

Rooney will stay "Sir AF spoke with him after rumours" most likely  hinted of his(S AF) change then.

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12 May 23:51

depends how much he really wants out. If he kicks up a fuss and performances are threatened to be affected then he'll be out the door very quickly


options for him?

Surely not liverpool or man city. Who else? chelsea perhaps the most likely if any


Abroad, perhaps real madrid or PSG. Cant see the german clubs wanting to go near him, despite the bayern rumours 



13 May 02:47

 If he wants to go then I would sell him. He is a fantastic player but to me he looks like he needs to trim down and the last few games he has only been OK. I think that he only has himself to blame as AF has always said no one person is bigger than the club and we all know what happened not that long ago. Have seen AF get rid of bigger names than Rooney before and you would not normally hear him say anything about players wanting to leave before or after a game, but he did this time. AF does not forgive easily.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

13 May 20:59

For Rooney it's all ego. People saying he's all about the money but that's bollocks. He just wants to do what he wants and play 90 minutes. If he doesn't have his demands met under Moyes he will likely say something, when as that was not likely under SAF. If he wants to go then so be it, we have anough forwards now anyway and he's been playing in the midfield which isn't an area we're struggling with either.

Fuck this stupid game

13 May 22:23

Don't be surprised if Dortmund or Bayern Munich come in for him. Just a feeling he'd go there rather than Spain or Italy.

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13 May 22:48

Not sure about that...

Perhaps Bayern if Guardiola likes him, but they do already have Mandzukic and Gomez. They were also sniffing around Giroud but bought Mandzukic instead, so they seem to like a big man up top who can head the ball. Not saying rooney can't do that, but he is a different type of player to the strikers they currently have. 

I'd hazard a guess that Dortmund won't be interested. They don't pay enough wages and they don't tend to pay huge transfer fees for established stars either. They've got a bit of arsenal about them i.e. feeder club to the big clubs

I think Real Madrid or PSG would be most likely, perhaps Barca if they sell Villa and/or Fabregas, maybe Chelsea if he stays in England. Anywhere else probably isn't likely, or rooney would see as a step down. In reality the best thing for his career is probably to stay at ManU. But he's not always one for smart decisions I guess...

13 May 22:48 · edited 13 May 22:50 · History

PSG?

edit, beat me to it paulm

Fuck this stupid game

14 May 01:17

I was just thinking that any Man United fan under the age of 26 has never known life without SAF....................much like any Liverpool fan under the age of 23 doesn't know what its like to be Champions :)

14 May 01:18

Or any tottenham fan under 52 :)



14 May 01:48

I was just thinking that any Man United fan under the age of 26 has never known life without SAF....................much like any Liverpool fan under the age of 23 doesn't know what its like to be Champions :)

Yep I'm 26 this year! exciting times

Fuck this stupid game

14 May 04:56

TopLeft07 wrote:

I was just thinking that any Man United fan under the age of 26 has never known life without SAF....................much like any Liverpool fan under the age of 23 doesn't know what its like to be Champions :)

Yep I'm 26 this year! exciting times


Matt Busby was Utd's manager when I became a supporter.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

14 May 05:16

So you're a kiwi who lives in Brisbane who supports Man United ? 

*sniff* classic....

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14 May 05:20

Leggy wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

I was just thinking that any Man United fan under the age of 26 has never known life without SAF....................much like any Liverpool fan under the age of 23 doesn't know what its like to be Champions :)

Yep I'm 26 this year! exciting times


Matt Busby was Utd's manager when I became a supporter.

Yeah, but you're old.

Three for me, and two for them.

14 May 05:59

nufc_nz wrote:

So you're a kiwi who lives in Brisbane who supports Man United ? 

*sniff* classic....

stupid comment is stupid

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

14 May 06:14

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

I was just thinking that any Man United fan under the age of 26 has never known life without SAF....................much like any Liverpool fan under the age of 23 doesn't know what its like to be Champions :)

Yep I'm 26 this year! exciting times


Matt Busby was Utd's manager when I became a supporter.

Yeah, but you're old.


That's right Buff, but you were still at primary school when Arsenal last won anything.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

14 May 06:16

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

I was just thinking that any Man United fan under the age of 26 has never known life without SAF....................much like any Liverpool fan under the age of 23 doesn't know what its like to be Champions :)

Yep I'm 26 this year! exciting times


Matt Busby was Utd's manager when I became a supporter.

Yeah, but you're old.


That's right Buff, but you were still at primary school when Arsenal last won anything.

Haha, high school actually.

Three for me, and two for them.

16 May 03:36

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

I was just thinking that any Man United fan under the age of 26 has never known life without SAF....................much like any Liverpool fan under the age of 23 doesn't know what its like to be Champions :)

Yep I'm 26 this year! exciting times


Matt Busby was Utd's manager when I became a supporter.

Yeah, but you're old.


That's right Buff, but you were still at primary school when Arsenal last won anything.


I must have been asleep....