Manchester United

A win is a win but I'm not convinced . The only thing we showed was a bit of guts which was way overdue. We are not playing good attractive football and we won't until there is a clear out at the end of the season. Hopefully RVP will be OK, but if he is not then Fellaini should play up front where he was so successful for Everton.

At least we are through to the next round even though it is very unlikely we will progress any further.

We are attempting the most crosses in the league. 

Moyes is deluded if he thinks we can win the champions league.

He kind of has to say that though doesn't he? I'm not sure who your best draw is on Friday...

Heard game was dire apart from rooney's goal. Best thing apparently was interplay between Rooney kagawa mata - who played centrally - finally!

Did Ashley Diver play? City win, be interesting how the fans react. Silence or anti Moyes?

I like Moyes, I think he will be like Fergusson. Give him 3 seasons to see what he can do. None of this panic reaction crap. Sadly Uniteds die hard fans that are used to winning at least one trophy per season are getting testy when they find that the club of messiahs is just another club like the rest.

Real Man United fans will stick with them throu the thick and the thin just like every one else does with their team. I think this could be a good charactor builder and it will show some players up for what they are. Money grabbers and not as good as they think they are. When you are surrounded by talent, it is easy to look good and deceive. 

Heads down and work harder. Remember Fergusson had a big say in whom was going to replace him. He see something in Moyes. United fans need to keep their faith. So what? You've had one shit season in 23, big fucken deal.

Well, at least United fans can console themselves that they haven’t bought their way to success, eh?Indeed, when you look at the two line-ups in Tueday’s one-sided derby, it is clear the Reds have been spending their way to mediocrity – their starting XI at Old Trafford cost £181m, and a superior City team cost £168m.

There are some staggering statistics which suggest that when it comes to Sir Alex Ferguson’s old mantra of ‘value for money’, City have been streets ahead of United in recent years.

Rio Ferdinand cost almost half as much again as the entire Blues defence, including Joe Hart. Marouane Fellaini cost more than Yaya Toure, David Silva and Samir Nasri, who weaved such elegant patterns around the floundering Belgian.

Juan Mata’s £37m fee overshadows the £30m City shelled out for the outstanding Fernandinho – a fee which some dismissed as over-priced at the time. No longer – the Brazilian has been a huge factor in taking City to the next level.

The Blues have been accused of ruining football, yet the evidence against United is there for all to see.

Spending record amounts on players is what inflates the transfer market, and United’s team on Tuesday included players who represent English record fees for a goalkeeper, defender and teenager. Even more daunting for the Reds is the amount of investment in players they need to achieve parity with a City team which will strengthen again this summer.

They might also consider that the Sheikh’s broad-based investment means City’s superiority goes much deeper than the first team.

The Blues are also better at every level below the first team – and that is acknowledged by Reds coach Phil Neville and their striker Robin van Persie, whose own sons are in the Blues academy.

Of course, youth development is an uncertain area, but there are far more prospects in the City set-up – both English and foreign – than there are at Carrington.

The money ploughed into developing the academy and its facilities, which will blossom into the crowning achievement of the Etihad Campus next year, is likely to be Sheikh Mansour’s greatest legacy to City, to Manchester and to English football.

Anyone who thinks that is over-blowing the facts should know that the Blues’ academy is largely stocked by local boys.
The flippant accusation levelled at City since Sheikh Mansour’s take-over is that their rise is somehow artificial, buoyed up by unearned money, and that it is all a little tasteless.

It is utter bunkum, of course. The investment from Abu Dhabi has been a good one – the motive was to boost the name of the emirate, and its state airline Etihad, and the association with City has done just that.

Etihad’s profits have surged since 2008, and the association with this classy City team enhances the airline’s reputation, while Abu Dhabi is now on the map as a tourist destination – something in which City have also played a big part. It is laughable United fans criticise a major investment by City’s owners which has been hugely beneficial to both parties, while the Reds’ owners have plunged their club into debt.

It is even dafter that Uefa thinks Sheikh Mansour’s investment, a huge boost to football and the community in Manchester, needs investigating under the Fair Play system, while the plunder of United is not.

Of course it is dangerous to dismiss United – they remain a great club with a big global standing. But it is City who are setting the pace in
Manchester now, and the Reds are limping along in their wake.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/27/manchester-united-plane-message-david-moyes-sacked

lol

Even weirder- City are clearly a better team in better form, and Fergusson lost this fixture for the last two years. Losing against the best team in the league like you've done for the last two seasons is the end of you as a manager? Bonkers. 

Now on the other hand if you were expected to challenge for the title and conceded say, six goals, having only brought in a borked player in the window when you needed to find real back up for Aaron Ramsey...

If you're going to count a pre-season cup as a trophy then Wenger has won several over the past nine years. 

Even weirder- City are clearly a better team in better form, and Fergusson lost this fixture for the last two years. Losing against the best team in the league like you've done for the last two seasons is the end of you as a manager? Bonkers. 

Now on the other hand if you were expected to challenge for the title and conceded say, six goals, having only brought in a borked player in the window when you needed to find real back up for Aaron Ramsey...

Funny that out of all the die hard Man United fans theres only about 4 on this thread.  Yet when you were winning everything in site, they were everywhere. As I have said before, you find out the true fans when things dont go a cording to plany. Respect to the few that do still post here, but to those who dont = plastic fans.

Funny that out of all the die hard Man United fans theres only about 4 on this thread.  Yet when you were winning everything in site, they were everywhere. As I have said before, you find out the true fans when things dont go a cording to plany. Respect to the few that do still post here, but to those who dont = plastic fans.