FIFA Women's World Cup 2023

Women's World Cup 2023 - Ozealand

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30 Jun 09:27

coochiee wrote:

The JourneyFan wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Yipe undeserving for the moment. Whoever wins OFC qualifying will only do it by default in NZ's absence.

on that argument you could say that NZ only qualify because Australai decamped to Asia

Maybe we should move a number of OFC women's teams into say the AFC, so American Samoa can qualify for WWC out of OFC. That would be a great feelgood story.

Your rationale that the only way the Islands Women's teams, are going to get better is by playing the big nations at a WWC, is seriously flawed. For sure playing better quality teams is part of the journey, to improving standards. But getting a serious of large hidings, and just learning various ways to park the bus - can also be detrimental long term. 

Ben Sigmund I remember talked about being with the New Zealand U-17 team that was at the U-17 World Cup in 1997. He said it was a disaster, they lost all three games, conceding 22 goals, which included a 13-0 hiding from Spain. 

The way he told the story, was that he learnt squat, the team mostly felt embarrassed/humiliated with some serious mental scars. I think a few of the boys even gave up football, when they returned home.

Much greater progress will be made by FIFA investment in quality programmes in the Islands (bleeding obvious), and getting a number of girls scholarships to Weenix Academy (esp if W League gets up and going), and/or Ole.

And yeah if a Nix W League team signed some senior Island players that would also be a massive boost.

To me a fair qualifying path for 2023 WWC would be a 0.5 spot to OFC, with a two legged playoff against a 0.5 spot team from women's AFC. Then if PNG, Fiji or whoever are good enough they'll make it.

This

Completely agree with this. I was in France for the last WWC and I watched lots of games including a few live. What was obvious was the spread in quality between the top and bottom teams. Much more so than the men’s WC. There were only 24 teams in France and the consen after was that they were really struggling to fill the roster with teams that would not be a disaster. The Thai team were totally outclassed. Their trashing by the USA was humiliating. The spin after was that it was good for their development but the local media reported the Thai team were in tears after the match and distraught about how their embarrassing performance would be perceived back home. 

Expanding the WWC to 32 teams is stupid IMO. It has nothing to do with development but is driven by FIFA wanting $$$ in TV, sponsorship etc. FIFA have suddenly realized that women’s football globally is a big deal and can be milked for more cash.  If FIFA want to expand the  womens game then they should pour much more money into coaching, facilities and more matches for women. If you want to have 32 teams at the WWC they should have a pool for the bottom 10 teams who play amongst themselves and have their own final. Teams ranked 24 to 32 will be butchered at the next WWC. Expect scores of 15+ goals. It will seriously undermine the credibility of the tournament.

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30 Jun 09:54

austin111 wrote:

coochiee wrote:

The JourneyFan wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Yipe undeserving for the moment. Whoever wins OFC qualifying will only do it by default in NZ's absence.

on that argument you could say that NZ only qualify because Australai decamped to Asia

Maybe we should move a number of OFC women's teams into say the AFC, so American Samoa can qualify for WWC out of OFC. That would be a great feelgood story.

Your rationale that the only way the Islands Women's teams, are going to get better is by playing the big nations at a WWC, is seriously flawed. For sure playing better quality teams is part of the journey, to improving standards. But getting a serious of large hidings, and just learning various ways to park the bus - can also be detrimental long term. 

Ben Sigmund I remember talked about being with the New Zealand U-17 team that was at the U-17 World Cup in 1997. He said it was a disaster, they lost all three games, conceding 22 goals, which included a 13-0 hiding from Spain. 

The way he told the story, was that he learnt squat, the team mostly felt embarrassed/humiliated with some serious mental scars. I think a few of the boys even gave up football, when they returned home.

Much greater progress will be made by FIFA investment in quality programmes in the Islands (bleeding obvious), and getting a number of girls scholarships to Weenix Academy (esp if W League gets up and going), and/or Ole.

And yeah if a Nix W League team signed some senior Island players that would also be a massive boost.

To me a fair qualifying path for 2023 WWC would be a 0.5 spot to OFC, with a two legged playoff against a 0.5 spot team from women's AFC. Then if PNG, Fiji or whoever are good enough they'll make it.

This

Completely agree with this. I was in France for the last WWC and I watched lots of games including a few live. What was obvious was the spread in quality between the top and bottom teams. Much more so than the men’s WC. There were only 24 teams in France and the consen after was that they were really struggling to fill the roster with teams that would not be a disaster. The Thai team were totally outclassed. Their trashing by the USA was humiliating. The spin after was that it was good for their development but the local media reported the Thai team were in tears after the match and distraught about how their embarrassing performance would be perceived back home. 

Expanding the WWC to 32 teams is stupid IMO. It has nothing to do with development but is driven by FIFA wanting $$$ in TV, sponsorship etc. FIFA have suddenly realized that women’s football globally is a big deal and can be milked for more cash.  If FIFA want to expand the  womens game then they should pour much more money into coaching, facilities and more matches for women. If you want to have 32 teams at the WWC they should have a pool for the bottom 10 teams who play amongst themselves and have their own final. Teams ranked 24 to 32 will be butchered at the next WWC. Expect scores of 15+ goals. It will seriously undermine the credibility of the tournament.

The Thai team were in tears, not helped by the humiliating way the US womens team acted even when the game was a forgone conclusion. It was disgraceful.

But I like your ideas about a bottom pool and giving those developing nation teams something to play for. Not sure exactly how. Plate final kind of thing I guess. 

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01 Jul 00:24

whatever wrote:

There is one down side to this good news. We will probably be put to sleep by Mia Jackman if she is part of the commentary team.

She could team up with Fred and make a perfect DREAM team.

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01 Jul 00:27

Ranix wrote:

austin111 wrote:

coochiee wrote:

The JourneyFan wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Yipe undeserving for the moment. Whoever wins OFC qualifying will only do it by default in NZ's absence.

on that argument you could say that NZ only qualify because Australai decamped to Asia

Maybe we should move a number of OFC women's teams into say the AFC, so American Samoa can qualify for WWC out of OFC. That would be a great feelgood story.

Your rationale that the only way the Islands Women's teams, are going to get better is by playing the big nations at a WWC, is seriously flawed. For sure playing better quality teams is part of the journey, to improving standards. But getting a serious of large hidings, and just learning various ways to park the bus - can also be detrimental long term. 

Ben Sigmund I remember talked about being with the New Zealand U-17 team that was at the U-17 World Cup in 1997. He said it was a disaster, they lost all three games, conceding 22 goals, which included a 13-0 hiding from Spain. 

The way he told the story, was that he learnt squat, the team mostly felt embarrassed/humiliated with some serious mental scars. I think a few of the boys even gave up football, when they returned home.

Much greater progress will be made by FIFA investment in quality programmes in the Islands (bleeding obvious), and getting a number of girls scholarships to Weenix Academy (esp if W League gets up and going), and/or Ole.

And yeah if a Nix W League team signed some senior Island players that would also be a massive boost.

To me a fair qualifying path for 2023 WWC would be a 0.5 spot to OFC, with a two legged playoff against a 0.5 spot team from women's AFC. Then if PNG, Fiji or whoever are good enough they'll make it.

This

Completely agree with this. I was in France for the last WWC and I watched lots of games including a few live. What was obvious was the spread in quality between the top and bottom teams. Much more so than the men’s WC. There were only 24 teams in France and the consen after was that they were really struggling to fill the roster with teams that would not be a disaster. The Thai team were totally outclassed. Their trashing by the USA was humiliating. The spin after was that it was good for their development but the local media reported the Thai team were in tears after the match and distraught about how their embarrassing performance would be perceived back home. 

Expanding the WWC to 32 teams is stupid IMO. It has nothing to do with development but is driven by FIFA wanting $$$ in TV, sponsorship etc. FIFA have suddenly realized that women’s football globally is a big deal and can be milked for more cash.  If FIFA want to expand the  womens game then they should pour much more money into coaching, facilities and more matches for women. If you want to have 32 teams at the WWC they should have a pool for the bottom 10 teams who play amongst themselves and have their own final. Teams ranked 24 to 32 will be butchered at the next WWC. Expect scores of 15+ goals. It will seriously undermine the credibility of the tournament.

The Thai team were in tears, not helped by the humiliating way the US womens team acted even when the game was a forgone conclusion. It was disgraceful.

But I like your ideas about a bottom pool and giving those developing nation teams something to play for. Not sure exactly how. Plate final kind of thing I guess. 

Not sure the Thai team took it quite the way you suggest: https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-world-cup-miranda-nild-alex-morgan-20190611-story.html

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01 Jul 01:25 · edited 01 Jul 01:27 · History

andrewvoerman wrote:

Ranix wrote:

austin111 wrote:

coochiee wrote:

The JourneyFan wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Yipe undeserving for the moment. Whoever wins OFC qualifying will only do it by default in NZ's absence.

on that argument you could say that NZ only qualify because Australai decamped to Asia

Maybe we should move a number of OFC women's teams into say the AFC, so American Samoa can qualify for WWC out of OFC. That would be a great feelgood story.

Your rationale that the only way the Islands Women's teams, are going to get better is by playing the big nations at a WWC, is seriously flawed. For sure playing better quality teams is part of the journey, to improving standards. But getting a serious of large hidings, and just learning various ways to park the bus - can also be detrimental long term. 

Ben Sigmund I remember talked about being with the New Zealand U-17 team that was at the U-17 World Cup in 1997. He said it was a disaster, they lost all three games, conceding 22 goals, which included a 13-0 hiding from Spain. 

The way he told the story, was that he learnt squat, the team mostly felt embarrassed/humiliated with some serious mental scars. I think a few of the boys even gave up football, when they returned home.

Much greater progress will be made by FIFA investment in quality programmes in the Islands (bleeding obvious), and getting a number of girls scholarships to Weenix Academy (esp if W League gets up and going), and/or Ole.

And yeah if a Nix W League team signed some senior Island players that would also be a massive boost.

To me a fair qualifying path for 2023 WWC would be a 0.5 spot to OFC, with a two legged playoff against a 0.5 spot team from women's AFC. Then if PNG, Fiji or whoever are good enough they'll make it.

This

Completely agree with this. I was in France for the last WWC and I watched lots of games including a few live. What was obvious was the spread in quality between the top and bottom teams. Much more so than the men’s WC. There were only 24 teams in France and the consen after was that they were really struggling to fill the roster with teams that would not be a disaster. The Thai team were totally outclassed. Their trashing by the USA was humiliating. The spin after was that it was good for their development but the local media reported the Thai team were in tears after the match and distraught about how their embarrassing performance would be perceived back home. 

Expanding the WWC to 32 teams is stupid IMO. It has nothing to do with development but is driven by FIFA wanting $$$ in TV, sponsorship etc. FIFA have suddenly realized that women’s football globally is a big deal and can be milked for more cash.  If FIFA want to expand the  womens game then they should pour much more money into coaching, facilities and more matches for women. If you want to have 32 teams at the WWC they should have a pool for the bottom 10 teams who play amongst themselves and have their own final. Teams ranked 24 to 32 will be butchered at the next WWC. Expect scores of 15+ goals. It will seriously undermine the credibility of the tournament.

The Thai team were in tears, not helped by the humiliating way the US womens team acted even when the game was a forgone conclusion. It was disgraceful.

But I like your ideas about a bottom pool and giving those developing nation teams something to play for. Not sure exactly how. Plate final kind of thing I guess. 

Not sure the Thai team took it quite the way you suggest: https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-world...

Nice feel good story by LA  Times. But are you sure its not just the American's trying to make excuses for there bad behaviour after the fact.

Does point out though what an honour it can be for developing nations to play at world cups even if that means getting well beaten. 

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01 Jul 03:15

Ranix wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

Ranix wrote:

austin111 wrote:

coochiee wrote:

The JourneyFan wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Yipe undeserving for the moment. Whoever wins OFC qualifying will only do it by default in NZ's absence.

on that argument you could say that NZ only qualify because Australai decamped to Asia

Maybe we should move a number of OFC women's teams into say the AFC, so American Samoa can qualify for WWC out of OFC. That would be a great feelgood story.

Your rationale that the only way the Islands Women's teams, are going to get better is by playing the big nations at a WWC, is seriously flawed. For sure playing better quality teams is part of the journey, to improving standards. But getting a serious of large hidings, and just learning various ways to park the bus - can also be detrimental long term. 

Ben Sigmund I remember talked about being with the New Zealand U-17 team that was at the U-17 World Cup in 1997. He said it was a disaster, they lost all three games, conceding 22 goals, which included a 13-0 hiding from Spain. 

The way he told the story, was that he learnt squat, the team mostly felt embarrassed/humiliated with some serious mental scars. I think a few of the boys even gave up football, when they returned home.

Much greater progress will be made by FIFA investment in quality programmes in the Islands (bleeding obvious), and getting a number of girls scholarships to Weenix Academy (esp if W League gets up and going), and/or Ole.

And yeah if a Nix W League team signed some senior Island players that would also be a massive boost.

To me a fair qualifying path for 2023 WWC would be a 0.5 spot to OFC, with a two legged playoff against a 0.5 spot team from women's AFC. Then if PNG, Fiji or whoever are good enough they'll make it.

This

Completely agree with this. I was in France for the last WWC and I watched lots of games including a few live. What was obvious was the spread in quality between the top and bottom teams. Much more so than the men’s WC. There were only 24 teams in France and the consen after was that they were really struggling to fill the roster with teams that would not be a disaster. The Thai team were totally outclassed. Their trashing by the USA was humiliating. The spin after was that it was good for their development but the local media reported the Thai team were in tears after the match and distraught about how their embarrassing performance would be perceived back home. 

Expanding the WWC to 32 teams is stupid IMO. It has nothing to do with development but is driven by FIFA wanting $$$ in TV, sponsorship etc. FIFA have suddenly realized that women’s football globally is a big deal and can be milked for more cash.  If FIFA want to expand the  womens game then they should pour much more money into coaching, facilities and more matches for women. If you want to have 32 teams at the WWC they should have a pool for the bottom 10 teams who play amongst themselves and have their own final. Teams ranked 24 to 32 will be butchered at the next WWC. Expect scores of 15+ goals. It will seriously undermine the credibility of the tournament.

The Thai team were in tears, not helped by the humiliating way the US womens team acted even when the game was a forgone conclusion. It was disgraceful.

But I like your ideas about a bottom pool and giving those developing nation teams something to play for. Not sure exactly how. Plate final kind of thing I guess. 

Not sure the Thai team took it quite the way you suggest: https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-world...

Nice feel good story by LA  Times. But are you sure its not just the American's trying to make excuses for there bad behaviour after the fact.

Does point out though what an honour it can be for developing nations to play at world cups even if that means getting well beaten. 

Literally quotes a Thai player.

Not that I don't agree with the idea that expansion for 2023 is stupid and will lead to plenty of mismatches, but there's plenty of evidence from Thailand football that they were not as offended as many neutral spectators were. 

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03 Jul 13:17

I don’t really want to draw out the debate about the emotional state of the Thai team. I just based my assessment at the time  on what I read in the local French press who seemed to have unfettered access to the Thai team.I It’s not really a big story.

What is a big story is Team USA Women coming to NZ. I had the privilege to be in a town where TEAM USA played at the WC in France. They are one of the biggest sporting brands in the USA....men and women, and it shows. The size of their entourage is breath taking. They freight enormous tonnes of equipment where ever  they go. They have support teams of just about everything you could think of. From beauticians, sports psychologists, chefs, dieticians, hair dressers, motivators. Then there are the normal support you see with a WC squad, coaches, physiotherapists video analysts etc etc. There seemed to be people everywhere.

The security was almost presidential. Everywhere around the team you saw these hulking guys with curly wires coming out their ears. They looked like the sort of guys who would taser you and put you in the mother of all choke holds just for inappropriately asking for an autograph. Then there was the press and PR people. The team seemed to have more PR people than players. They probably needed it because it seemed like every press outlet in the USA had a media team following the USA team. They were all there CNN, Fox, CBS, ESPN etc. The stars like Alex Morgan and Rapahoe had their own entourages who followed them everywhere.

It was interesting to watch the PR machine grind into action after the Thai game. They were stung by the criticism of player arrogance during the match. After that it was all positive spin. They wheeled out a Thai official for a presser. The poor woman sat there in a sea of glistening perfect white teeth as she dutifully said how much an honor and a privilege it was for the Thai players to be hammered by the great USA. After that there were loads of puff pieces about how the USA players were just normal apple pie eating gals who all owned cute puppies and recycled stuff because it was good for the planet.

What is amazing is that this juggernaut will probably be rolling in to good old NZ for the 2023 WC. It’s going to be huge. Team USA is going to make the All Black show look like Wairarapa United(no offense Paul) It would be a dream to have the opening game USA vs NZ at Eden Park. You would have the whole road show there for at least a week. The buildup would be amazing. You would get a enormous number of USA fans in town. The Auckland hospitality industry could gouge to its maximum. Can’t wait!

I guess I should add a caviat . I think the USA women’s team is amazing. They have added a level of professionalism to sport that everyone should admire. They know what’s required to win, and they win very often.

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03 Jul 18:04 · edited 03 Jul 18:10 · History

Cheers for that. Interesting read on US Women's team. 

Another thing about that US paper article is they interviewed a Thai player who was born and raised in the USA. So she may well respond differently (perhaps a little less humiliation) to being thrashed, compared to the majority of team who live in Siam, and returned there after conceding 13 goals.

Think nearly all Kiwis (me included) are going to be surprised by how big a deal the WWC has now become.

Though imagine FFA will be doing all they can to get Team USA, based in Australia for their pool games, to maximise publicity. Will be interesting to see how they are portrayed. Possibly the team everyone else loves to hate. Endless chants of "U..S..A", "U..S..A", as they crush all comers may not be that well liked by Kiwi or Aussie fans.

Also not sure will get as many travelling fans downunder in winter, as would have got travelling to beautiful Francia in summer. Normally millions of Americans go to Europe every NH summer, and that would have included many casual football fans last year. 

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03 Jul 20:23 · edited 03 Jul 22:42 · History

austin111 wrote:

I don’t really want to draw out the debate about the emotional state of the Thai team. I just based my assessment at the time  on what I read in the local French press who seemed to have unfettered access to the Thai team.I It’s not really a big story.

What is a big story is Team USA Women coming to NZ. I had the privilege to be in a town where TEAM USA played at the WC in France. They are one of the biggest sporting brands in the USA....men and women, and it shows. The size of their entourage is breath taking. They freight enormous tonnes of equipment where ever  they go. They have support teams of just about everything you could think of. From beauticians, sports psychologists, chefs, dieticians, hair dressers, motivators. Then there are the normal support you see with a WC squad, coaches, physiotherapists video analysts etc etc. There seemed to be people everywhere.

The security was almost presidential. Everywhere around the team you saw these hulking guys with curly wires coming out their ears. They looked like the sort of guys who would taser you and put you in the mother of all choke holds just for inappropriately asking for an autograph. Then there was the press and PR people. The team seemed to have more PR people than players. They probably needed it because it seemed like every press outlet in the USA had a media team following the USA team. They were all there CNN, Fox, CBS, ESPN etc. The stars like Alex Morgan and Rapahoe had their own entourages who followed them everywhere.

It was interesting to watch the PR machine grind into action after the Thai game. They were stung by the criticism of player arrogance during the match. After that it was all positive spin. They wheeled out a Thai official for a presser. The poor woman sat there in a sea of glistening perfect white teeth as she dutifully said how much an honor and a privilege it was for the Thai players to be hammered by the great USA. After that there were loads of puff pieces about how the USA players were just normal apple pie eating gals who all owned cute puppies and recycled stuff because it was good for the planet.

What is amazing is that this juggernaut will probably be rolling in to good old NZ for the 2023 WC. It’s going to be huge. Team USA is going to make the All Black show look like Wairarapa United(no offense Paul) It would be a dream to have the opening game USA vs NZ at Eden Park. You would have the whole road show there for at least a week. The buildup would be amazing. You would get a enormous number of USA fans in town. The Auckland hospitality industry could gouge to its maximum. Can’t wait!

I guess I should add a caviat . I think the USA women’s team is amazing. They have added a level of professionalism to sport that everyone should admire. They know what’s required to win, and they win very often.

Sadly (or perhaps not sadly, I know for sure our players don't want to be in the same group as them) the US and NZ will almost certainly be in the same pot for the draw.

Edit: Not wanting to be Debbie Downer. On a brighter note, presuming we get four pools here as proposed, we will get 7 of the top 15 teams in the world playing here.

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04 Jul 00:57

Does anyone have any idea if the Ferns games will be on Free To Air TV? Surely for these games to be successful u would need them on a free TV station?. More so Ferns then anything else.

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04 Jul 02:47

Just reading the new oral history of Aus/NZ women's football in the 70s, and I had no idea that the first coach of what are now the Football Ferns was Dave Farrington. Respect.


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04 Jul 09:49

Doloras wrote:

Just reading the new oral history of Aus/NZ women's football in the 70s, and I had no idea that the first coach of what are now the Football Ferns was Dave Farrington. Respect.

My mum was an inaugural member of the NZWFA and played a big part in setting up the National tournament. She also introduced Women's football to Newlands College - was laughed at at first, but took a team up several divisions and got noticed and was asked to join Dave Farrington and Dave Boardman with the NZ set up. She didn't stick around long as she realised pretty quickly she was the token female and they weren't really interested in her coaching ideas but she was useful to place cones!!!

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12 Jul 20:23

The money put aside is split 50/50 - 50% to the club the player is registered with when they are at the World Cup (based on number of days involvement)

the other 50% is given to the clubs that the players have played for from ages 12-22

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12 Jul 21:47

Considering the population and where elite footballers play, it would be odd if it weren't mainly Auckland clubs


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12 Jul 21:55

Miramar getting money is a fudgein joke, do they even have a women's side?

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12 Jul 22:15

Would've been the product of Sarah G and Anna Green playing for Miramar's men's teams last season.

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12 Jul 22:31

I'm aware, doesn't make it any less of a joke.

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12 Jul 23:32

The JourneyFan wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

http://miramarrangers.co.nz/womens-football

That team never happened. Rosie is taking an U18 team but thats the extent of their senior womens football this season

Point still stands – that they have women/girls at their club which the money should be going towards.

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12 Jul 23:49 · edited 12 Jul 23:54 · History

el grapadura wrote:

Would've been the product of Sarah G and Anna Green playing for Miramar's men's teams last season.

And yes they had  female teams last year.

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13 Jul 00:21

andrewvoerman wrote:

The JourneyFan wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

http://miramarrangers.co.nz/womens-football

That team never happened. Rosie is taking an U18 team but thats the extent of their senior womens football this season

Point still stands – that they have women/girls at their club which the money should be going towards.

thats a lot of money for an U18 team.........

of course Miramar may have plans to develop the womens side of their club that we aren't aware of yet, but going on history I'm not going to be holding my breath 

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13 Jul 00:30 · edited 13 Jul 00:30 · History

The JourneyFan wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

The JourneyFan wrote:

andrewvoerman wrote:

http://miramarrangers.co.nz/womens-football

That team never happened. Rosie is taking an U18 team but thats the extent of their senior womens football this season

Point still stands – that they have women/girls at their club which the money should be going towards.

thats a lot of money for an U18 team.........

of course Miramar may have plans to develop the womens side of their club that we aren't aware of yet, but going on history I'm not going to be holding my breath 

Maybe it's paying for the free t-shirts and drink bottles they're handing out at their girls-only holiday programmes?

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13 Jul 02:57

I don't have a horse in this race - not affiliated with any clubs currently (and previous affiliation wouldn't see a cent either way), but I can't help but feel the money could've done better at a club that actually values women's football (or could've been distributed in a way that makes even a tiny little bit of sense)

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13 Jul 03:36

Its a shame Nix will miss out if they get the W-League team up and running next season.

Mr Positive

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13 Jul 04:07

Nelfoos wrote:

I don't have a horse in this race - not affiliated with any clubs currently (and previous affiliation wouldn't see a cent either way), but I can't help but feel the money could've done better at a club that actually values women's football (or could've been distributed in a way that makes even a tiny little bit of sense)

How does 50% going to the club a player is currently registered to not make sense?

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13 Jul 04:09

Royz wrote:

Its a shame Nix will miss out if they get the W-League team up and running next season.

The payments are compensation for A, players being released to take part in the World Cup B, the clubs that developed them, so it doesn't just reflect where they are at the time. The Wellington Phoenix have been neither for anyone yet, but will stand to potentially benefit (from B, moreso than A) in 2023.

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20 Jul 11:34

The JourneyFan wrote:

The money put aside is split 50/50 - 50% to the club the player is registered with when they are at the World Cup (based on number of days involvement)

the other 50% is given to the clubs that the players have played for from ages 12-22

so if any players in this years FFDP make it to a world cup then NZF get the percentage for this years development instead of a club ?

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20 Jul 21:23

reubee wrote:

The JourneyFan wrote:

The money put aside is split 50/50 - 50% to the club the player is registered with when they are at the World Cup (based on number of days involvement)

the other 50% is given to the clubs that the players have played for from ages 12-22

so if any players in this years FFDP make it to a world cup then NZF get the percentage for this years development instead of a club ?

no this money goes to clubs players are registered with and have been registered with

If you look at FFDP players they are all registered with clubs, even if they aren't playing for that club due to being part of the FFDP program

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20 Oct 18:53

The 12 candidate cities that will take part in the virtual workshops are:

  • Australia: Adelaide, Brisbane, Launceston, Melbourne, Newcastle, Perth, Sydney*
  • New Zealand: Auckland, Christchurch, Dunedin, Hamilton, Wellington

https://thewomensgame.com/news/2023-world-cup-host-cities-named-as-fifa-selection-begins-554881

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31 Mar 20:58 · edited 31 Mar 21:05 · History
  • Adelaide – Hindmarsh Stadium
  • Auckland / Tāmaki Makaurau – Eden Park
  • Brisbane – Brisbane Stadium 
  • Dunedin / Ōtepoti – Dunedin Stadium 
  • Hamilton / Kirikiriroa – Waikato Stadium 
  • Melbourne – Melbourne Rectangular Stadium 
  • Perth – Perth Rectangular Stadium 
  • Sydney – Stadium Australia and Sydney Football Stadium 
  • Wellington /  Te Whanganui-a-Tara  – Wellington Stadium 

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31 Mar 21:41
Always feared for Christchurch a bit given their stadiums. Glad to see Perth stayed on and the horrible AFL oval in Launceston got the boot.

Looking forward to seeing the games in Auckland, Dunedin, Hamilton and Wellington!
Blew.2
  • Adelaide – Hindmarsh Stadium
  • Auckland / Tāmaki Makaurau – Eden Park
  • Brisbane – Brisbane Stadium 
  • Dunedin / Ōtepoti – Dunedin Stadium 
  • Hamilton / Kirikiriroa – Waikato Stadium 
  • Melbourne – Melbourne Rectangular Stadium 
  • Perth – Perth Rectangular Stadium 
  • Sydney – Stadium Australia and Sydney Football Stadium 
  • Wellington /  Te Whanganui-a-Tara  – Wellington Stadium 
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