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Chris Killen (Unattached)

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Come on Killen score some goals :) great to see he's playing though and sounds like he did reasonably well against Toon.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He picked up an 'assist" for the second goal.

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Played 73 minutes in the recently completed game against Derby County. Sounds as though Killen had his liveliest game yet, having a couple of good shots saved. The man who replaced him though, Leroy Lita, scored a late equaliser which means Lita could be rewarded with a start at Killen's expense. :(
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sounds like Killen had an absolute blinder v Reading - scored one and had 3 or 4 other good chances the keeper saved.

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sounds like hes playing good.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
PROAK wrote:
Sounds like Killen had an absolute blinder v Reading - scored one and had 3 or 4 other good chances the keeper saved.
 
Played well..in order for it to be blinder he should have scored the winner he missed.
 

Both sides pushed for a winner, with Killen seeing another header saved by Federici and Brian Howard volleying wide for Reading.

There was further drama in the closing stages as Federici denied Killen yet again.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Bloody Aussies, you go to the other side of the world and they still piss you off ;)

Sounds like Boro are in a bit of a nix-like draw rut and they now are extremely unlikely to be in play-off contentionvaleo2010-03-21 23:47:21

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
saw video of Killen's goal. v good effort to beat the keeper from well outside six yard box.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
link?
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sounds like he is finding form and fitness at the right time for both them and the all whites. great news.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Killen just put middlesbrough one up against Preston. go Killer!
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
good man. a much needed 3 points.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Great news for Chris, Middlesbrough and New Zealand! I was stoked when I saw that he'd scored again to make it two good headed goals in two games. Lets hope he keeps getting the starts for Boro and keeps scoring goals!!
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Played the full 90 as well.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Great stuff scoring today. The guy gets a lot of headers in doesn't he?
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
it was on TV3 news..oh joy. 

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ha im glad that guy that was running far post resisted the temptation to poach Killen's goal! :)
 
Sounded as though Killy had another solid game and sounds like he is creating lots of chances which means hes getting himself in good scoring positions. Lets see two goals in the next game Killy!
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Full 90 this morning in a 1 all draw.

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Depends if he keeps up his form or not I suppose

a.haak

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I wonder, with West Brom almost certain to gain promotion, if it would be better for Killen to stay with Boro where he'd be far more likely to get game-time?
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Chris mentor-ing Chris might be a good situation 
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
smittyz11 wrote:
sounds like he is finding form and fitness at the right time for both them and the all whites. great news.


Well actually I think differently to that. The only problem he had was not getting much game time because of selection bias. Each time Celtic put him on the field, Killen had done his job/role well. The real reason why he hasn't had game time was that there was forwards ahead of him still doing their jobs, so instead of resting them by rotation, the coach ensured game consistency by sticking with the on-field team and used Killen as a squad player and not a team player. Killen was always able to do the job whenever 90 minutes or 10 minutes was required. The problem was a big club with superstars status and chokes some of the players career who would otherwise be a star in another team of the same competition level.AllWhitebelievr2010-03-31 00:30:38
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
I wonder, with West Brom almost certain to gain promotion, if it would be better for Killen to stay with Boro where he'd be far more likely to get game-time?


Mmmm Quality vs Quantity. The chance to play in the EPL has to out-weight playing in the Championship. For Killen, he has to try and see how far he goes or he may end up asking a "what if?" etc etc. However that is not to mean that the Boro can't get to EPL themselves. Killen just has to check on what players that he will have compete for places with. If WBA wants him and think he can do the work in EPL, then he is going to get a running chance on the field.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
according to an article of Strachan's, Killen was "close to full fitness, he hadn't played 6 games in arow since before Celtic due to his injuries".

Your right though about him doing the job when needed.


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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
I wonder, with West Brom almost certain to gain promotion, if it would be better for Killen to stay with Boro where he'd be far more likely to get game-time?
 
 
But surely if they want to sign him in the off season after being promoted then they would intend him to be pushing for a start.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'd love to see Chris playing in the Premier League, would make my day. And by all accounts I think with the strikers WBA have at the moment, Killen would have a good chance for a starting place. But obviously I'd expect WBA to sign other strikers as well as Killen during the summer. If hes going to play then Itd be great but if he signed for them and ended up in a situation like the one at Celtic, then Id be really really Gutted, especially because he would be giving up regular football at Boro.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Must have a good agent. Dropping unsubstantiated hints to newspapers who'll print almost anything...
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He should go with Albion if given the chance to futher his career..we are going to be down for another season or 2.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Boro4eva wrote:
He should go with Albion if given the chance to futher his career..we are going to be down for another season or 2.


Well thats a complete honesty there, if ever I see one. Obviously I can put you down as Country over Club supporter.

Consider his age, he should be starting to peaking so he should be getting ripe for EPL.

Well we have to wait on the final outcome between Forrest and the Baggies in the table to see which way he will swing. I like the idea for him to play along side Wood to get some combo working that would help us in the AWs.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
being in an EPL squad doesn;t agruntee EPL games. Just look what happened to him at Celtic...
 
maybe "furthering his career" means staying in the Championship where he can perfrom each week. Rather than reverting to being a squad player at a top flight club...
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
phil_style wrote:
being in an EPL squad doesn;t agruntee EPL games. Just look what happened to him at Celtic...
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maybe "furthering his career" means staying in the Championship where he can perfrom each week. Rather than reverting to being a squad player at a top flight club...


WBA and NF aren't that top flight. Can't see him having a problem with them. In the SPL, he had regular time with Hibernians but Celtic was the club that placed a stumbling block in his career. Having Killen in WBA or NF won't choke him. They are not the big 4 and unlikely to be top 8 material if they get into EPL so the challenge for places isn't that surmountable. I like to think that being at Celtic made him strong enough to handle EPL conditions.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Killen is nowhere near good enough to play in the premiership and would simply go back to the bench.  He is really lacking in almost every department when compared to even lower level starting premiership strikers.
 
At the same time if he gets an offer he'd be mad not to take it

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well he has to give it a shot to see how far he can go. A good one season payout deal in the EPL can be better than 2-5 years payout in the championship.

Still I can't see him not being a low end EPL striker, it's not as through in his previous games, that there is a hint of him struggling with the ball much.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Look at how guys like Jason Scotland and Ebanks - Blake, who dominated the championship, have been shown up badly in the premiership (I don't think either have scored and both have looked awful).  Killen isn't anywhere near as good as either of those guys, he's playing for a mid level champ team and scoring the odd goal.  He's just not premiership quality
 
These are the starting strikers for the low level Premiership sides
 
Mido/ Benni McCarthy/ Franco - West Ham
Piquionne/ Kanu/ Boateng - Pompey
Jozy Altidore/ Craig Fagan - Hull
Kevin Davies/Klasnic - Bolton
Stephen Fletcher/ Nugent - Burnley
Kevin Doyle, Ebanks - Blake - Wolves
Rodillega/ Moreno - Wigan
 
Most of those guys are quality Internationals.  Even the worst player on that list is significantly better than Killen, in fact the more I look at those names the more it appears to me that you're talking absolute rubbish!  I like Chris, he's a decent enough player at the job he does but stop kidding yourself that he is anywhere near good enough for that level

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Better or flasher??

Flashy players seem to have it made, but once space and time is lessen, they are shown out and have to relearn their game. Players that do solid basics accurately with hard physical work are invaluable to the team in more ways because they open things up for others.

People had said the same thing about Peter Couch before and now look where he is. Just working away at his job and getting things sorted around the goal. In certain respects, Greenache does the same role for us in the Nix and this allowed the other players the gap and the movement to attack.

As long he does the simple basic things right, things will come his way. Sometimes the decent players are the better ones. He's a hard worker and he being improving considering that he hasn't been given as much game time and had injuries in the past. He may not have the same array of skills as some of the flasher players but he makes up for it by hard work with the basics and different characteristics. I'll say he has the mental toughness to compete.

The thing is, who cares what the other players you compared to are doing or have done, it's what he is doing to get to the next stage. And I see foundation work for the next stage.

He needs a chance and some luck his way and lets not be to hastily in judging whether he can do it or not until he is given a decent run in the EPL.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm sorry but that is four paragraphs of utter rubbish, all of these players are:
 
a. more experienced at a higher level (including international)
 
b. have more technical ability
 
c. more instinctive goal scorers
 
d. aside from Mido are quicker
 
There are players, such as Heskey, who help other players play well through hard work, skill and vision.  Chris Killen is not one of those players.  He is a big, strong, old style centre forward who works off knock downs and is strong in the air.  You need so much more to your game than that to succeed in the premiership.  Killen doesn't need a chance in the premiership he has his chance, and it's in the championship. 
 
Basics don't cut it at that level.  Even strikers at the bottom end of the table have a bewildering array of skills compared to a guy like Killen.  Peter Crouch is an amazing technical player - again comparisons to Greenacre are ridiculous.  You say don't compare him to other players.  That's ridiculous, any signing is a comparison to another player, if you're not better than the guy next to you why would someone sign you over him?
 
Can I ask when the last time you saw him play 90 minuts at club level was?

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
I'm sorry but that is four paragraphs of utter rubbish, all of these players are:
 
a. more experienced at a higher level (including international)
 
b. have more technical ability
 
c. more instinctive goal scorers
 
d. aside from Mido are quicker
 
Quite simply, they are better players.  Flasher also, but when did that become a bad thing?
 
There are players, such as Heskey, who help other players play well through hard work, skill and vision.  Chris Killen is not one of those players.  He is a big, strong, old style centre forward who works off knock downs and is strong in the air.  You need so much more to your game than that to succeed in the premiership (the only player similar to him I can think of is Kevin Davies and he's twice the player Killen is).  Killen doesn't need a chance in the premiership he has his chance, and it's in the championship. 
 
Basics don't cut it at that level.  Even strikers at the bottom end of the table have a bewildering array of skills compared to a guy like Killen.  Peter Crouch is an amazing technical player - again comparisons to Greenacre are ridiculous.  You say don't compare him to other players.  That's ridiculous, any signing is a comparison to another player, if you're not better than the guy next to you why would someone sign you over him?
 
Can I ask when the last time you saw him play 90 minuts at club level was?

Normo's coming home

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

People had said the same thing about Peter Couch before and now look where he is. Just working away at his job and getting things sorted around the goal. In certain respects, Greenache does the same role for us in the Nix and this allowed the other players the gap and the movement to attack.


Please don't tell me you've just compared Crouch with Killen and Greenacre.

Dear Lord.
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