Kosta Barbarouses (Western Sydney Wanderers | A-leagues)

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almost 9 years ago · edited almost 9 years ago · History

No one walked out on the Auckland Kingz!

Aside from the fans.....sponsors.....owners.....

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DolorasWhoStoleMySock
almost 9 years ago

why not just put him on a transfer list and get something back for it? Win win for everyone. Other than McCain, have we ever received a fee for any player?

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almost 9 years ago · edited almost 9 years ago · History

Ryan wrote:

Kawasaki wrote:

Ryan, which is?

Personal reasons, or in other words none of our business. The club have clearly stated that it's not football related.

"Personal reasons" ?? "reasons not pertaining to football". Fudge, that's like putting players/coaches on "Gardening Leave" whilst they are being sacked. Pathetic excuse to give. If it was a domestic issue, just be honest, Kosta had some domestic issue to resolve so we have released him/ Sometimes the truth is the easiest and quickest solution and stops speculation and bull shark. I only used the example of domestic issues to make a point, I do not know the true reasons for him getting a release. 

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 9 years ago

valeo wrote:

Reckon it's more a Smeltz situation. 

Which is? 



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almost 9 years ago

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Doloras
almost 9 years ago

People moaned about Kosta's efforts all season and now he has gone, we are moaning about not keeping him? 

We probably over paid to bring him home & it hasn't worked out for whatever reasons, at least it frees up a lot of cash for the new gaffer to spend & we don't have an unhappy player on the books.

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Ryan
almost 9 years ago

Doloras wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:
Everyone seems to leave Wellington for personal reasons.

That's what I noticed, but people here keep explaining to me that Wellington has the best quality of life between Singapore and Tahiti, also that the climate is top-notch, so that can't be it.

You really have some sort of complex about this.

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almost 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Doloras wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:
Everyone seems to leave Wellington for personal reasons.

That's what I noticed, but people here keep explaining to me that Wellington has the best quality of life between Singapore and Tahiti, also that the climate is top-notch, so that can't be it.

You really have some sort of complex about this.

Auckland jealousy, don't worry about it........actually, we are looking for a Keeper and Doloras is one, perhaps she should approach the club.....

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 9 years ago

Kosta could have been great, but he wasn't. 

Lacked a soft touch and was too similar to Krishna - this will free up a good amount of cash and give us more flexibility in the type of player that we chase.

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almost 9 years ago

RR wrote:

People moaned about Kosta's efforts all season and now he has gone, we are moaning about not keeping him? 

We probably over paid to bring him home & it hasn't worked out for whatever reasons, at least it frees up a lot of cash for the new gaffer to spend & we don't have an unhappy player on the books.

I think it's more cumulative frustration from the Tratt situation, and Powell last season to a lesser extent. I think people wouldn't be pissed if the reason for releasing him had been no room for him in the new coach's plan, or something similar. It's the "non-football reasons" which grate.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Marto
almost 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

pierre wrote:

This is appalling for the club. Devestating news. When we cant hold on to Kosta, who can we hold on to (with pedigree).

This is so much more than just a player being released from the club. It shows the culture our club is in at the moment.


You're making assumptions. It's probably exactly what they say it is.

Your use of the word probably shows you too are making assumptions.

A fan is a fan.

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ConanTroutman
almost 9 years ago

Though Kosta is a good player I don't think we lose out on much with talented young players such as Rogerson, Singh and McGarry who need to be given a chance to step up and I am sure they can make the step up going by how Kosta and Rojas did in the past when they were young. Atleast now there's left over money for the coach to sort out the Midfield and the troublesome Right back position

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almost 9 years ago

Kosta was very disappointing. He had the ability but failed to show it last season.

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almost 9 years ago

yellowsite wrote:

Ryan wrote:

pierre wrote:

This is appalling for the club. Devestating news. When we cant hold on to Kosta, who can we hold on to (with pedigree).

This is so much more than just a player being released from the club. It shows the culture our club is in at the moment.


You're making assumptions. It's probably exactly what they say it is.

Your use of the word probably shows you too are making assumptions.

Which word? "Personal" David Dome mentioned that it was Personal Issues on the radio. 

http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2017....

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almost 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

yellowsite wrote:

Ryan wrote:

pierre wrote:

This is appalling for the club. Devestating news. When we cant hold on to Kosta, who can we hold on to (with pedigree).

This is so much more than just a player being released from the club. It shows the culture our club is in at the moment.


You're making assumptions. It's probably exactly what they say it is.

Your use of the word probably shows you too are making assumptions.

Which word? "Personal" David Dome mentioned that it was Personal Issues on the radio. 

http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2017....

the word "probably"

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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almost 9 years ago

The world Probably doesn't make it an assumption. It's not an assumption because it's what we've been explicitly told.

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almost 9 years ago

he did not use the P word on the radio at all. Have another listen

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almost 9 years ago

regardless of what has happened this is can be both good for the Phoenix and NZF in general, this means that A) one less player will be taken from the Nix when the All Whites play and B) one more local talent has a chance to develop  at a higher level and C) one more Kiwi taking a Visa spot for an Aus team. Good luck to Kosta I'm sure he can hit top form for another team.

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almost 9 years ago · edited almost 9 years ago · History

Kawasaki wrote:

he did not use the P word on the radio at all. Have another listen

1:15 in he said "That's a personal issue for Kosta and we've agreed to keep that reason private between him and the club."

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paige478
almost 9 years ago

Wonder if Kosta will be at Victory or Roar next season?.

Mr Positive

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almost 9 years ago · edited almost 9 years ago · History

Ryan wrote:

Kawasaki wrote:

he did not use the P word on the radio at all. Have another listen

1:15 in he said "That's a personal issue for Kosta and we've agreed to keep that reason private between him and the club."

burn

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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Doloras
almost 9 years ago

the word which sums up what you are doing to your club by not questioning the owners

Back under the desk with you

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almost 9 years ago

Kosta had a season for us which was almost of the exact same quality as his last three for Melbourne Victory and people say he didn't fire for us. It's a bit like how Paul Pogba never scored more than ten goals in a season for Juve, comes to Man U and some people are shocked he only scored 9.

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almost 9 years ago

RR wrote:

People moaned about Kosta's efforts all season and now he has gone, we are moaning about not keeping him? 

We probably over paid to bring him home & it hasn't worked out for whatever reasons, at least it frees up a lot of cash for the new gaffer to spend & we don't have an unhappy player on the books.

I think it's more cumulative frustration from the Tratt situation, and Powell last season to a lesser extent. I think people wouldn't be pissed if the reason for releasing him had been no room for him in the new coach's plan, or something similar. It's the "non-football reasons" which grate.

yeah, fans like players leaving on the club's terms.
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almost 9 years ago

Ryan54 wrote:

Kosta had a season for us which was almost of the exact same quality as his last three for Melbourne Victory and people say he didn't fire for us. It's a bit like how Paul Pogba never scored more than ten goals in a season for Juve, comes to Man U and some people are shocked he only scored 9.

Maybe but he was crap and so was Pogba

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almost 9 years ago

whatever wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:

Kosta had a season for us which was almost of the exact same quality as his last three for Melbourne Victory and people say he didn't fire for us. It's a bit like how Paul Pogba never scored more than ten goals in a season for Juve, comes to Man U and some people are shocked he only scored 9.

Maybe but he was crap and so was Pogba

If Kosta was crap last season for the Phoenix then he was crap at Victory. 

More likely, Kosta played for a very good Victory team and looked very good because he had good players around him. He came to the Phoenix and looked worse because he had worse players around him.

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LeggyLGmjnufc_nz
almost 9 years ago

Ryan54 wrote:

whatever wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:

Kosta had a season for us which was almost of the exact same quality as his last three for Melbourne Victory and people say he didn't fire for us. It's a bit like how Paul Pogba never scored more than ten goals in a season for Juve, comes to Man U and some people are shocked he only scored 9.

Maybe but he was crap and so was Pogba

If Kosta was crap last season for the Phoenix then he was crap at Victory. 

More likely, Kosta played for a very good Victory team and looked very good because he had good players around him. He came to the Phoenix and looked worse because he had worse players around him.

Don't take up punditry fella

Founder

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almost 9 years ago

Ryan54 wrote:

whatever wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:

Kosta had a season for us which was almost of the exact same quality as his last three for Melbourne Victory and people say he didn't fire for us. It's a bit like how Paul Pogba never scored more than ten goals in a season for Juve, comes to Man U and some people are shocked he only scored 9.

Maybe but he was crap and so was Pogba

If Kosta was crap last season for the Phoenix then he was crap at Victory. 

More likely, Kosta played for a very good Victory team and looked very good because he had good players around him. He came to the Phoenix and looked worse because he had worse players around him.

Crap is crap regardless

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almost 9 years ago

Kosta was named player of the year by the club wasn't he? Sad that he's heading off, feels like unfinished business here.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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almost 9 years ago

His personal issues may have been the cause for his average season performance. So back to Victory or maybe City for him?.

Mr Positive

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almost 9 years ago

Back to scoring lots of goals, especially against the Nix, if Australia is his next stop. 

Why do I keep thinking that in this A League, we (The Nix) fight by Queensbury rules, whilst Australian clubs fight by any means to win?

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 9 years ago

Kosta is a damn fine player, who didn't start the season as he would have liked, but seemed to finish with some momentum. He scored some classy goals and was appreciated by the Northern Ireland commentator in the last international as having an impact. 

Wish he wasn't going. Felt we were gunna be singing for him loudly this season. 

Gutted. Miss ya Kosta!



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Tegal
almost 9 years ago

Kosta was named player of the year by the club wasn't he? Sad that he's heading off, feels like unfinished business here.

yes and that decision was widely pilloried by the "public". Can't have helped matters.
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almost 9 years ago

Sancho wrote:

Though Kosta is a good player I don't think we lose out on much with talented young players such as Rogerson, Singh and McGarry who need to be given a chance to step up and I am sure they can make the step up going by how Kosta and Rojas did in the past when they were young. Atleast now there's left over money for the coach to sort out the Midfield and the troublesome Right back position

None of those players has ever looked even half as effective as Kosta did as a 16 year old in the (old) ASB Premiership for Team Wellington before he was first signed for the Phoenix.  The idea those guys are going to step up to replace him this season is laughable.  

Normo's coming home

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Oska
almost 9 years ago · edited almost 9 years ago · History

I frankly struggle to see what issues could truly mean that he couldn't play 1 more season in Wellington.  If it's his missus wanting to go back to Aussie then surely he could do one season of long distance to Melbourne...I really struggle with this from the club frankly.  

If he goes overseas then maybe I can understand it, if he ends up back in the A-League playing against us then I will be pretty pissed off.  He signed a contract to play in Wellington for 2 years, he is from Wellington so there's no surprises there.  I mean he had 1 or maybe 2 seasons literally paying for a team in Siberia!  I think it's poor from him and poor from the club.  But after releasing Tratt how could they say no?

Normo's coming home

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KaLGMartoyellowsite
almost 9 years ago

james dean wrote:

Sancho wrote:

Though Kosta is a good player I don't think we lose out on much with talented young players such as Rogerson, Singh and McGarry who need to be given a chance to step up and I am sure they can make the step up going by how Kosta and Rojas did in the past when they were young. Atleast now there's left over money for the coach to sort out the Midfield and the troublesome Right back position

None of those players has ever looked even half as effective as Kosta did as a 16 year old in the (old) ASB Premiership for Team Wellington before he was first signed for the Phoenix.  The idea those guys are going to step up to replace him this season is laughable.  

Well said! If we are relying on these youngsters we are in for a poor season again. This is not a development league, its a pro league and we need to have players capable of that level. None of these players look ready to make big impacts from what I have seen. 
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LG
almost 9 years ago

From the stuff article:

"Kosta Barbarouses' partner struggled to adjust to life in Wellington, a major factor behind his decision to seek a release from the Phoenix in a significant blow for the club.

But it would be a surprise if that was the only reason, with Barbarouses understood to be unhappy with aspects of how the club was run in the city he was born and bred."

So rather than being some big crisis you have a homesick girlfriend and a desire to leave.  Which means cut through the spin and the club were happy for him to go.

Normo's coming home

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almost 9 years ago

james dean wrote:

From the stuff article:

"Kosta Barbarouses' partner struggled to adjust to life in Wellington, a major factor behind his decision to seek a release from the Phoenix in a significant blow for the club.

But it would be a surprise if that was the only reason, with Barbarouses understood to be unhappy with aspects of how the club was run in the city he was born and bred."

So rather than being some big crisis you have a homesick girlfriend and a desire to leave.  Which means cut through the spin and the club were happy for him to go.

If that report is true, the club needs to grow a pair and tell the likes of Kosta and anyone else that has an unhappy wife to toughen up and either stay for the duration of their contract or buy themselves out of it. That's not to say that some agreement has been made along the buy-out lines. The club/new coach might also believe that Kosta was not worth the coin they are paying him and this is a good way to extract themselves from that. So many variables but I can't help thinking that for a group of 'highly regarded businessmen' this and a number of other examples of poor business in relation to this club - tells me they are probably not as good as they think when they have to actually work at making a business suvccessful. 
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almost 9 years ago

As a fan group we need to let the the ownership group know that this is not good enough and they should expect players to see out their contract.

A fan is a fan.

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Marto
almost 9 years ago

One thing about that article, it screams they don't actually know anything either. It was noticed that no writer has put their name to the article and feels like they are just making things up by rumours and hearsay. It could be true but it is just as likely not when it hasn't come from one of the established football writers.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/933...

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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martinb