Why post it unpublished. That's just asking for trouble....
Why post it unpublished. That's just asking for trouble....
100% this, especially if someone other than you can access the unpublished stories on your site.
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Well I think most people would expect a level of competency from a national body.
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Well I think most people would expect a level of competency from a national body.
With the FFA's track record I wouldn't tempt fate though.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Well I think most people would expect a level of competency from a national body.
With the FFA's track record I wouldn't tempt fate though.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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Well I think most people would expect a level of competency from a national body.
With the FFA's track record I wouldn't tempt fate though.
Hahahaha!
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
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Dear me. If I was a Kit Man I would REALLY not want this on my watch...
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Is it Rusty's fault though? Sounds like it's FFA's fault for ignoring the fact that the news hasn't been confirmed by either club yet.
Almost certainly not the rust man's fault. But a full time media manager wouldn't hurt - poor bloke has to do 2+ jobs and fit in writing releases with doing the laundry.
With such a cock up like this, could one say that they are airing their dirty laundry?
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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I'd also like to hat-tip the Phoenix for waiting until after the All Blacks test to drop this announcement. I presume (perhaps generously) that was on purpose to give it maximum chance of coverage.
You know we belong together...
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Why post it unpublished. That's just asking for trouble....
100% this, especially if someone other than you can access the unpublished stories on your site.
This seems common practice with the A-League sides - well especially the nix. Often the publish date in an online article is dated like 2 hours or days before it actually was visible on the site.
If you want to get a scoop on a #NixAnnouncement a few mins before the announcement, go to the nix news story page and hit refresh a few times untill they switch it to public but before they tweet the link
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Well I think most people would expect a level of competency from a national body.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Well I think most people would expect a level of competency from a national body.
With the FFA's track record I wouldn't tempt fate though.
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Surely it's just a matter of getting formal sign-off from CCM?
There's no way that press release would have got written without having at least in-principle agreement from them.
Surely?
Apparently its not confirmed.
Phoenix communications manager Russell Gray says the story was pre-written about a week ago and was ready to go when McGlinchey's deal was confirmed.
However, it hadn't yet been confirmed and it appeared someone had seen the story, thought it was a good one and put it up on the website, where it was picked up by media.
Gray said the situation was "very, very tricky" as negotiations were still underway with the involved clubs and he could not say when it was expected to be confirmed.
Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/A-League-botch-McGlinchey-announcement/tabid/415/articleID/347768/Default.aspx#ixzz346RwpmsR
Do we suspect negotiations skull duggery at the CCM end?
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But who typed up the story to begin with?
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If it's the same FFA intern that sent the charity kit design to Fox Sports 2 months ahead of it's official release, I hope they never ever get a job in sports administration again.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished.
That's not our fault
This isn't going to disrail anything really is it, he wants to come here, CCM know that, it's just a negotiation
Normo's coming home
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So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished.
That's not our fault
This isn't going to disrail anything really is it, he wants to come here, CCM know that, it's just a negotiation
The only way it could derail it is if CCM see the way their fans reacted to the news and decide that they don't want that to happen for real. It would be a shit reason to keep a player at the club, but at the end of the day this is going to come down to whether McGlinchey can secure a release from CCM or not, which is what we all knew a few weeks back.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished.
That's not our fault
This isn't going to disrail anything really is it, he wants to come here, CCM know that, it's just a negotiation
The only way it could derail it is if CCM see the way their fans reacted to the news and decide that they don't want that to happen for real. It would be a shit reason to keep a player at the club, but at the end of the day this is going to come down to whether McGlinchey can secure a release from CCM or not, which is what we all knew a few weeks back.
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So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished.
That's not our fault
This isn't going to disrail anything really is it, he wants to come here, CCM know that, it's just a negotiation
The only way it could derail it is if CCM see the way their fans reacted to the news and decide that they don't want that to happen for real. It would be a shit reason to keep a player at the club, but at the end of the day this is going to come down to whether McGlinchey can secure a release from CCM or not, which is what we all knew a few weeks back.
Their fan forum is pretty much dead compared to this one throughout.
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So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished.
That's not our fault
This isn't going to disrail anything really is it, he wants to come here, CCM know that, it's just a negotiation
Apparently it is our fault based on some of the reaction on here.
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So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished.
That's not our fault
This isn't going to disrail anything really is it, he wants to come here, CCM know that, it's just a negotiation
Apparently it is our fault based on some of the reaction on here.
Not our fault. Fact. Were we brave to trust the FFA, yes.
Is this going to derail anything: unknown. My sauces tell me the deal is genuinely not done, it's still a discussion. Whether he wants to come here or not is still very much up in the air.
The quote Rusty wrote for him can't be read to mean that it's effectively a done deal.
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On Fox Sports, they claim that the tranfer has been completed!
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On Fox Sports, they claim that the tranfer has been completed!
Yesterday this was on Herald, 3News & Stuff as it had been "confirmed" on the A-League website, once that original source was removed it can be considered not completed.
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So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished.
That's not our fault
This isn't going to disrail anything really is it, he wants to come here, CCM know that, it's just a negotiation
Apparently it is our fault based on some of the reaction on here.
Not our fault. Fact. Were we brave to trust the FFA, yes.
Is this going to derail anything: unknown. My sauces tell me the deal is genuinely not done, it's still a discussion. Whether he wants to come here or not is still very much up in the air.
The quote Rusty wrote for him can't be read to mean that it's effectively a done deal.
People say this is not our fault, ok sure, but then why make up a press release about a guy with quote he obviously has not said when he is still in discussion to come here. That, is absolutely amateur and the Phoenix take 100% fault for. I don't see anyone writing a future press release about an earthquake that has not happened with quotes attributed to the government that have not been said....
Grumpy old bastard alert
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Just on the quote bit comms people often write these up and then get the approval of the person they're quoting. Just because someone is worth quoting doesn't mean they know how to say a worthy quote. Likely that McGlinchey would have seen this before it was published and had the chance to change his quote.
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Ok so if McGlinchey has seen this and green lighted those quotes then talks must be a lot further along than what Smithy's source says it is.
I'm not calling anyone a liar or anything like that at all. I'm just saying this absolutely stinks of amateurism that would have been avoided had the release not been drafted. You can't attribute quotes to a guy that's not signed unless he has said them and if he has, then the signing is pretty much a done deal. Contrast that with CCMs stance where they are saying 'over our dead bodies'. Yes this intern fucked up but if was not written in the first place when its still at a discussion phase, then there is nothing to post...
I just shake my head and think to myself that even the Phoenix can find the shambolic angle in everything.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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Ok so if McGlinchey has seen this and green lighted those quotes then talks must be a lot further along than what Smithy's source says it is.
I'm not calling anyone a liar or anything like that at all. I'm just saying this absolutely stinks of amateurism that would have been avoided had the release not been drafted. You can't attribute quotes to a guy that's not signed unless he has said them and if he has, then the signing is pretty much a done deal. Contrast that with CCMs stance where they are saying 'over our dead bodies'. Yes this intern fucked up but if was not written in the first place when its still at a discussion phase, then there is nothing to post...
I just shake my head and think to myself that even the Phoenix can find the shambolic angle in everything.
I have no problem with the release being drafted, my problem is with the amateurish decision to post it "unpublished" to somewhere that someone other than you can see it (Being FFA)...UGH!
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So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished.
That's not our fault
This isn't going to disrail anything really is it, he wants to come here, CCM know that, it's just a negotiation
Apparently it is our fault based on some of the reaction on here.
I know. Odd.
I loved the quotes though - even managed to slip in the old "unlucky with injuries" line...
Normo's coming home
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If Michael McGlinchey was yet to approve those quotes then essentially that press release has the status of Rusty Gray's Phoenix Fan Fiction.
Love it - I wonder if he's got any other good stuff stashed away in a drawer.
Lionel Messi signs for the Phoenix due to his infatuation with pop starlet Lorde?
Ernie Merrick leaves the Nix to become the new Doctor Who?
David Dome dies in a mysterious accident in the Nix office kitchen and is replaced by Russell Gray?
The possibilities are endless.
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It did make me wonder how many other press releases have been drafted but never published. It would give us a real insight in to all the players we've nearly signed but not gotten over the line, and which have remained a secret. Remember when Ricki used to give stupid little clues on players he was talking to that never eventuated? I bet old Russ drafted up a few quotes from them as well.
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Ok so if McGlinchey has seen this and green lighted those quotes then talks must be a lot further along than what Smithy's source says it is.
I'm not calling anyone a liar or anything like that at all. I'm just saying this absolutely stinks of amateurism that would have been avoided had the release not been drafted. You can't attribute quotes to a guy that's not signed unless he has said them and if he has, then the signing is pretty much a done deal. Contrast that with CCMs stance where they are saying 'over our dead bodies'. Yes this intern fucked up but if was not written in the first place when its still at a discussion phase, then there is nothing to post...
I just shake my head and think to myself that even the Phoenix can find the shambolic angle in everything.
That just makes you sound old JV. This is completely standard comms practice these days.
Right now there are literally millions of similar drafts being worked on in Content Management Systems around the world.
FFA's fault. End of.
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From my dealings with comms in my job, its pretty common for them to write quotes that are attributed to people who haven't necessarily said them. That person then generally gives the all clear after seeing the draft. I've also seen many draft press releases that, for one reason or another, haven't been published.
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The thing is however that the Nix have been talking to WeeMac for weeks now - so if they drafted the press release and posted it unpublished it must be close to done.
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I often write press releases for myself and other people. Not unusual to make up a fantastic quote for someone else to say, usual practise to ask if it is ok. In an environment where press releases are an everyday event, you are only too happy if someone comes up with a quote for you - saves you having to come up with one yourself. As for the unpublished side of this - I'm presuming that the Nix website is hosted by FFA in one of those generic - all clubs in the league have the same basic template etc and that the FFA have normal access to it.
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That just makes you sound old JV.
Totally. Whats your point? :o)Perhaps there is now a lesson in this too. Don't draft up press releases until there is fact.
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JV - it might surprise you to find out that all my posts on this forum are actually written in advance by my comms person, I just give them the OK before they publish.
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I think your comms person and my comms person need to talk. Your posts have a lot more common sense about them than mine.
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