Kiwi Players Elsewhere

Michael McGlinchey (Weston FC | Australia)

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almost 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

I think your comms person and my comms person need to talk. Your posts have a lot more common sense about them than mine.

I think you need to retract that comment.
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almost 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

JV - it might surprise you to find out that all my posts on this forum are actually written in advance by my comms person, I just give them the OK before they publish.



Just to be clear, my comms people thissed that
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almost 12 years ago

I get my comms guy onto it.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

JV - it might surprise you to find out that all my posts on this forum are actually written in advance by my comms person, I just give them the OK before they publish.


Don't worry, the mods can see all of your posts so if we see anything particularily good, we'll publish it before you.

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almost 12 years ago

On the drafting thing, I imagine its pretty common these days to do one before things are signed. Given the prevalence of social media, rumours spread pretty quickly so it seems like good practice to have something to release quickly if the news breaks before you planned it.

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almost 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

On the drafting thing, I imagine its pretty common these days to do one before things are signed. Given the prevalence of social media, rumours spread pretty quickly so it seems like good practice to have something to release quickly if the news breaks before you planned it.

I understand a draft, but it should be saved to a local pc, not as a draft on a website...that seems the rookie mistake to me.
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almost 12 years ago

I'm surprised to learn that journalists invent quotes for people in advance and just get them to ok it.


I'm even more surprised that most people seem to think that's all fine and good. I know this is 'how the world works' these days but why should that be accepted as fine? It's a complete farce. 

I don't want to know what some journalist thinks they should say, I want to know what they actually have to say. 

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almost 12 years ago

Surely the facility is there for precisely this reason.

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almost 12 years ago
paulm wrote:

I'm surprised to learn that journalists invent quotes for people in advance and just get them to ok it.


I'm even more surprised that most people seem to think that's all fine and good. I know this is 'how the world works' these days but why should that be accepted as fine? It's a complete farce. 

I don't want to know what some journalist thinks they should say, I want to know what they actually have to say. 

We aren't talking journalists. We are talking comms people who work in the same company. Massive difference.

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History
2ndBest wrote:
paulm wrote:

I'm surprised to learn that "comms people" invent quotes for people in advance and just get them to ok it.


I'm even more surprised that most people seem to think that's all fine and good. I know this is 'how the world works' these days but why should that be accepted as fine? It's a complete farce. 

I don't want to know what some "comms person" thinks they should say, I want to know what they actually have to say. 

We aren't talking journalists. We are talking comms people who work in the same company. Massive difference.


Fixed

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almost 12 years ago
paulm wrote:

I'm surprised to learn that journalists invent quotes for people in advance and just get them to ok it.


I'm even more surprised that most people seem to think that's all fine and good. I know this is 'how the world works' these days but why should that be accepted as fine? It's a complete farce. 

I don't want to know what some journalist thinks they should say, I want to know what they actually have to say. 

You would absolutely hate the concept of ghost writing then.
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almost 12 years ago


Bro, you know I can't read your ghost press releases.

 

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almost 12 years ago
paulm wrote:

I'm surprised to learn that journalists invent quotes for people in advance and just get them to ok it.


I'm even more surprised that most people seem to think that's all fine and good. I know this is 'how the world works' these days but why should that be accepted as fine? It's a complete farce. 

I don't want to know what some journalist thinks they should say, I want to know what they actually have to say. 


Then every article about a kiwi sportsmen joining a new team would read something like this: "Yeah, nah. Really glad to be joining the boys, um, yeah, real excited, aye. Um, yeah, looking forward to getting out on the paddock. Chur."
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almost 12 years ago
james dean wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
james dean wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

So apparently Phoenix drafted the story and put it on their website unpublished. Someone at FFA saw it, and put the story on FFA's website not realising it was unpublished. 

That's not our fault

Apparently it is our fault based on some of the reaction on here.


I know. Odd.



No, not really. Many people here really, really jump to the worst possible conclusions about our club and its management.

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almost 12 years ago
paulm wrote:


I don't want to know what some journalist thinks they should say, I want to know what they actually have to say. 


Then every article about a kiwi sportsmen joining a new team would read something like this: "Yeah, nah. Really glad to be joining the boys, um, yeah, real excited, aye. Um, yeah, looking forward to getting out on the paddock. Chur."


Yeah. Let's face it, just because someone's skilled at the old footy doesn't mean they can even string a basic sentence together in English or any other language. Some of the stuff I've read which made Carlos sound like an absolute arrogant twit, for example, was clearly (from the second-language English syntax) a direct quote.

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History
2ndBest wrote:

Well I think most people would expect a level of competency from a national body.



Surely working/dealing with NZF would have prepared them to expect otherwise?


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almost 12 years ago

I see where Jeff is coming from. I think its fine to type up an article but I would have left it on my own machine until the deal was done and dusted. I would never trust it to anyone else to hold on to. I bet no one at the FFA will be held responsible.  And should CCM and this deal fall over, I think the Nix have every rit to compensation for the incompetence that has been displayed.

Why keep something simple when we can over complicate it resulting in a massive cluster fuck?

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almost 12 years ago



Russell: "This is what I wrote the other day...What do ya think....Oh fuck I sent it."

Ricki: *How the fuck did they sign someone who is actually good*



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almost 12 years ago

Are we there yet?

E + R + O

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almost 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

If Michael McGlinchey was yet to approve those quotes then essentially that press release has the status of Rusty Gray's Phoenix Fan Fiction.

Love it - I wonder if he's got any other good stuff stashed away in a drawer. 

Lionel Messi signs for the Phoenix due to his infatuation with pop starlet Lorde?

Ernie Merrick leaves the Nix to become the new Doctor Who?

David Dome dies in a mysterious accident in the Nix office kitchen and is replaced by Russell Gray?

The possibilities are endless.



Peter "m#$%^&*( f%^&*" Capaldi for 'Nix in identity switch shock?



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almost 12 years ago
paulm wrote:

I'm surprised to learn that journalists invent quotes for people in advance and just get them to ok it.


I'm even more surprised that most people seem to think that's all fine and good. I know this is 'how the world works' these days but why should that be accepted as fine? It's a complete farce. 

I don't want to know what some journalist thinks they should say, I want to know what they actually have to say. 


not journo- marketing person for the Phoenix trying to make the Phoenix look like a freshly shined pair of shoes...repeat NOT a JOURNALIST...pr folk


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almost 12 years ago

Ghost writing for a book is one thing, making up quotes that have not even been said AT ALL is just ludicrous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 12 years ago

Still popping up on sites - click the link to a default page with no info on signing

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almost 12 years ago

Blew.2 wrote:

Transfer date listed as July 1. 

Correct. Loan finishes on June 30 when he released back to the Salties.

Can people wait that long?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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almost 12 years ago

Tell me this has got legs. #Iwanttobelieve



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almost 12 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

From my dealings with comms in my job, its pretty common for them to write quotes that are attributed to people who haven't necessarily said them. That person then generally gives the all clear after seeing the draft. I've also seen many draft press releases that, for one reason or another, haven't been published.

When this site first launched, I wrote up an "interview" I "did" with Simon Elliott to help us get some credibility.  Feverish insisted that I spoke to him and let him know about it before it was published, so I gave him a call and read him the "quotes" to make sure he was fine with them.  He said he wasn't, I said I didn't care, and we published the "interview" anyway.  

That example shows just how murky the waters of investigative journalism and "quotes" are.

Cool story huh? Ryan Gosling to play me, Jason Statham to play to Simon and Troy Verner to play Feverish in the movie adaptation of the event.

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Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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almost 12 years ago

How is that site updated? Is it based on official Fifa information or more like a Wiki?

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almost 12 years ago

Its the internet. It must be true.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 12 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Its the internet. It must be true.

If its not true you won't see me on here for 3 months 

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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almost 12 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Its the internet. It must be true.

If its not true you won't see me on here for 3 months 

gold pal

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 12 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Its the internet. It must be true.

If its not true you won't see me on here for 3 months 

Your balls, my word !

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almost 12 years ago

The deals been done. 

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almost 12 years ago

Considering what we've all been through already, I'm sure you'll forgive me for not believing you at all. Until I hear it from the Phoenix themselves I won't believe it.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 12 years ago

It will be announced tomorrow. 

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almost 12 years ago

stormin wrote:

It will be announced tomorrow. 

legit or wind up?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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