Kiwi Players Elsewhere

Ryan Thomas (PEC Zwolle | Netherlands)

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02 Jul 07:45
I want to see him in an All Whites jersey again so badly. We sound like a broken record, but fingers crossed his shark luck is over. 2026 would be a helluva story if he can make it.
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

02 Jul 11:56
He's done. 

Time to throw in the towel and look for a new career for his health and welfare and that of his family. He must have made a few pennies on the stretcher at PSV to be financially sorted for life.
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02 Jul 13:23
Yeah mate, his contract may have just expired but Ryan Thomas has resumed training with PEC Zwolle and there’s hope that they’ll sort out a new deal to keep him around. Probably just has to prove his fitness first (which, admittedly, is no given). His manager definitely wants him to stick around, especially for the experience that he offers to a relatively young squad after club legend and captain Bram van Polen left after 17 years of service.

Johnny Jansen: “Ryan still has to sort it out with the club. Gerry [Hamstra, the new technical director] will talk to him, so I hope that will come around. It will be very good to have people in his age group there.”
24 Jul 00:34
From Flying Kiwis. Dutch season starts August 10th

As for Ryan Thomas across the way at PEC Zwolle... nothing new to report. Thommo hasn’t been considered match-fit for any of their preseason games yet as he recovers from season-ending knee surgery last time out. He’s also without a contract as it stands so let’s hope he’s not far off because he’s running out of room to prove himself.
03 Aug 21:04 · edited 03 Aug 21:05 · History
Really hoping he can come back. 

But also really really needs to lose 80s that porno moustache 

Auckland will rise once more

11 Aug 11:41
Thomas on the bench
11 Aug 21:18
Unused sub in a 1-0 loss
12 Aug 00:50
Eredivisie was on Sky Sports NZ recently was it not? Is it still? Would be great to start tuning in with two Kiwis in there now, and both seemingly fit (for the time being...)
12 Aug 02:51
Plus zawada 

Auckland will rise once more

13 Aug 06:48
AucklandPhoenix
Plus zawada 

He's in the same team as that guy who played for Melbourne city. Van der...
18 Aug 09:46
Has he ever spoken about coming back to nz?

He could do well in the a-league. Warmer weather....  short seasons with a long off season. It might be better for his body. 
18 Aug 10:01 · edited 18 Aug 10:02 · History
Elemenop
Has he ever spoken about coming back to nz?

He could do well in the a-league. Warmer weather....  short seasons with a long off season. It might be better for his body. 

He's seemed very much a settled Dutch family man homebody now for quite sometime. Has made it clear he will continue to live in Holland post playing career over. 

And Zwolle seem like a smallest family type club, that likey suits him at this stage of his career. The physio/medicos there will know his body, and it's limitations better than anyone. Happy to be patient with him, and he will always be a hero there after his 2 goals in the Dutch Cup final 10 years ago.
18 Aug 11:49 · edited 18 Aug 11:51 · History
Thomas on the pine for Zwolle as they host Feyenoord.
18 Aug 20:57 · edited 18 Aug 21:03 · History
Unused sub as Zwolle get thrashed 1-5.
Hopefully Thomas not far away from some playing time
18 Aug 21:03
Riding the pine in Holland is hardly gonna get him selected for the AW's but if he's not interested in getting that call up then he'll me making better money riding the pine than player for a pittance in the aleague.

Queenslander 3x a year.

24 Aug 17:40
theprof
Riding the pine in Holland is hardly gonna get him selected for the AW's but if he's not interested in getting that call up then he'll me making better money riding the pine than player for a pittance in the aleague.

Riding the pine as I type. Time we move on from his as an AW I think.
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24 Aug 23:36 · edited 24 Aug 23:37 · History
Thomas an unused sub as Zwolle lose 0-1. They did go down to 10 men at 64 mins (0-0).

Zwolle pointless after 3 games. Keep that up, and Thomas will get his opportunity.
01 Sep 11:28
Thomas on the pine.
01 Sep 21:09
Unused sub in a 3-0 win
02 Sep 01:41
I'm still optimistic he could find a way back into the AW's. Of course he needs to be playing regular minutes, but he's only 29. Plenty of time for a comeback story. I know Kosta hasn't been hit nearly as hard with injuries but look at his revival.

When he's match fit/sharp, Ryan's one of our best. If anything, he'd be a great backup option in the midfield & wings. Can provide experience and teach our younger fellas a thing or two.

If he stays fit, gets decent minutes, I'm sure we'll see him again. If that's the case, let's hope his club let's him go on int duty. 

 
Marto
theprof
Riding the pine in Holland is hardly gonna get him selected for the AW's but if he's not interested in getting that call up then he'll me making better money riding the pine than player for a pittance in the aleague.

Riding the pine as I type. Time we move on from his as an AW I think.
Born Wellington - Live Iceland 
02 Sep 01:45
karlpetersson
I'm still optimistic he could find a way back into the AW's. Of course he needs to be playing regular minutes, but he's only 29. Plenty of time for a comeback story. I know Kosta hasn't been hit nearly as hard with injuries but look at his revival.

When he's match fit/sharp, Ryan's one of our best. If anything, he'd be a great backup option in the midfield & wings. Can provide experience and teach our younger fellas a thing or two.

If he stays fit, gets decent minutes, I'm sure we'll see him again. If that's the case, let's hope his club let's him go on int duty. 

 
Marto
theprof
Riding the pine in Holland is hardly gonna get him selected for the AW's but if he's not interested in getting that call up then he'll me making better money riding the pine than player for a pittance in the aleague.

Riding the pine as I type. Time we move on from his as an AW I think.

Some pretty big ifs in that hopeful statement. If he can keep fit and find the form to get him starting in whatever league he's in then maybe he'll get noticed again, and then he's got to be performing better than any of the current players in his spot. I assume he'd be an Old type player? 

Queenslander 3x a year.

02 Sep 03:11
With his injury history I wouldn't blame him for priortising extending his club career and limiting football time, including with the international team.
02 Sep 03:21
Given his tortured recent history, I'm sure his sole current focus is just getting his body right to play football again for Zwolle. Once the All Whites qualify for the 2026 WC - as they will next March - for sure he will be giving some thought to an international recall. Who wouldn't want to play in a World Cup, that in 2025 will start to loom onto the horizon.

That's assuming his body hasn't failed him again, and he is getting mins in the Eredivisie.

And I wouldn't begrudge him trying to make an AWs comeback, after being away from the national team for sooo long. My memories of the 2017 games against Peru (esp at the ROF), is no one tried harder than Thomas to get us the upset win. It's just the football gods have been cruel to him pretty much since then.
02 Sep 03:59
Even just to watch Thomas one more time in an AWs shirt would be an incredible sight. Obviously though, I'm not giving up on the possibility of an AWs comeback and him in that 2026 WC squad.
03 Sep 02:56
If he’s match fit, and playing regular minutes for zwolle he will be back into the AWs for the World Cup, it’s just a matter on who would loose there spot
03 Sep 06:05
YellowAndBlack
If he’s match fit, and playing regular minutes for zwolle he will be back into the AWs for the World Cup, it’s just a matter on who would loose there spot

This...  

Even if he's just had 15mins a game from the beach over a season or two... 

He is the most skilfully midfielder I've seen play for nz. Such a shame about the injuries.
03 Sep 07:55 · edited 03 Sep 07:55 · History
Can someone fill me in on how good was he back in his prime?
I was at the Peru game and that was kind of my introduction to football in NZ but the fanatacism didn't truly take hold until a couple of years afterwards, but I remember his close attempts to make something happen during that match. Obviously nine or ten years ago we didnt have this wealth of players with decent contracts overseas so it must have been pretty novel. But I'm curious to how well beyond "Oh he's mean for a kiwi." it went. Back in the mid 2010's was the sky the limit and is he a case for NZ's biggest wasted talent? 

Having never seen the guy play for more than one or two games I'm truly intrigued by the calls of, if he's fit he has to be there. Especially considering we probably have one of our most competitively stacked midfields of a long while.  He must have been an absolute  beast, and I'm terrified Sarpreet's career is teeing up to deflate in the same way.


03 Sep 08:34
Rock Hopper
Can someone fill me in on how good was he back in his prime?
I was at the Peru game and that was kind of my introduction to football in NZ but the fanatacism didn't truly take hold until a couple of years afterwards, but I remember his close attempts to make something happen during that match. Obviously nine or ten years ago we didnt have this wealth of players with decent contracts overseas so it must have been pretty novel. But I'm curious to how well beyond "Oh he's mean for a kiwi." it went. Back in the mid 2010's was the sky the limit and is he a case for NZ's biggest wasted talent? 

Having never seen the guy play for more than one or two games I'm truly intrigued by the calls of, if he's fit he has to be there. Especially considering we probably have one of our most competitively stacked midfields of a long while.  He must have been an absolute  beast, and I'm terrified Sarpreet's career is teeing up to deflate in the same way.


He almost single handedly helped PEC Zwolle beat Ajax to win the KNVB Cup as a 19 year old.

In 2017 his former Zwolle coach was saying he wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up playing for Real Madrid. A bit of hyperbole there for sure, but he was a special player.
03 Sep 09:02
He was unreal and had so much potential. Maybe our most talented footballer of all time. 

I have  memories of him collecting the ball deep in his own half, pivoting with close control, accelerating into space and leaving a couple of defenders in the dead before offloading key attacking passes. Good control, great passing and vision, technically gifted, aware of attacking and defensive space. He had all the qualities of a world class deep lying playmaker and/or assisting attacking midfielder, but we never  got to see his ceiling. A real shame.

Could have been a top premier league midfielder without injuries, easily. 

Bold call, I know.
03 Sep 11:31
Friar Tuck
Rock Hopper
Can someone fill me in on how good was he back in his prime?
I was at the Peru game and that was kind of my introduction to football in NZ but the fanatacism didn't truly take hold until a couple of years afterwards, but I remember his close attempts to make something happen during that match. Obviously nine or ten years ago we didnt have this wealth of players with decent contracts overseas so it must have been pretty novel. But I'm curious to how well beyond "Oh he's mean for a kiwi." it went. Back in the mid 2010's was the sky the limit and is he a case for NZ's biggest wasted talent? 

Having never seen the guy play for more than one or two games I'm truly intrigued by the calls of, if he's fit he has to be there. Especially considering we probably have one of our most competitively stacked midfields of a long while.  He must have been an absolute  beast, and I'm terrified Sarpreet's career is teeing up to deflate in the same way.


He almost single handedly helped PEC Zwolle beat Ajax to win the KNVB Cup as a 19 year old.

In 2017 his former Zwolle coach was saying he wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up playing for Real Madrid. A bit of hyperbole there for sure, but he was a special player.

For sure part hyperbole that remembered comment by Ron Jans. But Jans is a respected manager who went on to coach FC Cincinnati in the MLS, and of recent times back in Eredivisie with Twente & now Utrecht. So the Thomas praise had some merit.

And of course PSV signed Thomas from Zwolle, with high expectations. Tragically did his ACL the first time, days into his first PSV pre season in 2018. It's been a cursed career ever since

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Thomas_(footballer)

Thomas continued to impress for PEC Zwolle in the following seasons following his transition to a holding midfielder, with his rise being compared to that of Dutch legend Arjen Robben by former manager Ron Jans. In a 2017 interview, Jans stated that "it would not surprise me if he ended up at Real Madrid".
03 Sep 12:07
Just remembering how amazing he was and what he achieved or could’ve, while knowing the incredibly difficult times he’s been through brings a tear to my eye every time.

I wish nothing but the best for Thomas and I’m praying this is finally the season where things start to get better for him again.
03 Sep 19:41
Elemenop
YellowAndBlack
If he’s match fit, and playing regular minutes for zwolle he will be back into the AWs for the World Cup, it’s just a matter on who would loose there spot

This...  

Even if he's just had 15mins a game from the beach over a season or two... 

He is the most skilfully midfielder I've seen play for nz. Such a shame about the injuries.

This may have bene the case a couple of years ago, but with no football under his belt, repeated injuries he's not gonna be anywhere near the footballer he was. The dream is gone!

Queenslander 3x a year.

03 Sep 22:44
theprof
Elemenop
YellowAndBlack
If he’s match fit, and playing regular minutes for zwolle he will be back into the AWs for the World Cup, it’s just a matter on who would loose there spot

This...  

Even if he's just had 15mins a game from the beach over a season or two... 

He is the most skilfully midfielder I've seen play for nz. Such a shame about the injuries.

This may have bene the case a couple of years ago, but with no football under his belt, repeated injuries he's not gonna be anywhere near the footballer he was. The dream is gone!

Have to say that when I watched him play for the AWs in Russia and elsewhere in Europe, I thought he was good, but no better then Singh at his best or Oldie now. 

I actually think Old will end up being the best of them

BUT

All three have had careers plagued by injury. I just hope Ben gets over his and does not follow in the path of the older two kiwis.
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