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New Zealand 1st innings R M B 4s 6s SR JM How c Ambrose b Anderson 7 34 18 0 0 38.88 AJ Redmond c Cook b Anderson 0 7 5 0 0 0.00 JAH Marshall c Strauss b Broad 24 104 71 4 0 33.80 LRPL Taylor c Collingwood b Broad 19 24 20 3 0 95.00 BB McCullum b Panesar 97 173 97 13 2 100.00 DR Flynn b Anderson 9 36 32 2 0 28.12 JDP Oram c Strauss b Sidebottom 28 139 97 3 0 28.86 DL Vettori b Sidebottom 48 152 100 6 0 48.00 KD Mills b Sidebottom 10 66 59 0 0 16.94 TG Southee b Sidebottom 1 9 9 0 0 11.11 CS Martin not out 0 19 13 0 0 0.00     Extras (b 16, lb 14, w 1, nb 3) 34     Total (all out; 86.2 overs; 386 mins) 277 (3.20 runs per over)

Fall of wickets1-2 (Redmond, 1.5 ov), 2-18 (How, 7.3 ov), 3-41 (Taylor, 12.3 ov), 4-76 (Marshall, 23.2 ov), 5-104 (Flynn, 31.2 ov), 6-203 (McCullum, 50.1 ov), 7-222 (Oram, 62.5 ov), 8-258 (Mills, 80.2 ov), 9-260 (Southee, 82.3 ov), 10-277 (Vettori, 86.2 ov)

 Bowling OM R W Econ  RJ Sidebottom 28.2 12 55 4 1.94  JM Anderson 20 5 66 3 3.30 (1nb, 1w)  SCJ Broad 24 4 85 2 3.54 (2nb)  PD Collingwood 3 1 11 0 3.66  MS Panesar 11 2 30 1 2.72

England 1st innings R B 4s 6s SR AJ Strauss not out 24 69 2 0 34.78 AN Cook not out 43 61 5 0 70.49     Extras (nb 1) 1     Total (0 wickets; 21.3 overs) 68 (3.16 runs per over)

To bat MP Vaughan, KP Pietersen, IR Bell, PD Collingwood, TR Ambrose, SCJ Broad, RJ Sidebottom, MS Panesar, JM Anderson

 Bowling OM R W Econ  CS Martin 8.3 2 24 0 2.82  KD Mills 5 0 10 0 2.00 (1nb)  TG Southee 3 0 19 0 6.33  JDP Oram 5 0 15 0 3.00

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82.3 Sidebottom to Southee, OUT, and Sidebottom strikes on the first ball back after the light break! Late swing from just outside off, coming right back in off the pitch, full, and going through the defences. Awful shot from Southee though, a mow across the line and he pays the price. Sidebottom loves it TG Southee b Sidebottom 1 (9m 9b 0x4 0x6) SR: 11.11
 
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Rain has stopped play. NZ a bit unlucky with some of the bowling. But they dont seem to be able to make the ball swing like the English Bowlers.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
Rain has stopped play. NZ a bit unlucky with some of the bowling. But they dont seem to be able to make the ball swing like the English Bowlers.
 
It's to do with the ball, NZ players are used to bowling with Kookaburra, where as the ball they are using is Dukes.
 
One is 2 piece, the other 3 (I cant remember which is which).
 
Still there international Cricketers, they should have the skill to deal with it.
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Pure Genius wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
Rain has stopped play. NZ a bit unlucky with some of the bowling. But they dont seem to be able to make the ball swing like the English Bowlers.
 
It's to do with the ball, NZ players are used to bowling with Kookaburra, where as the ball they are using is Dukes.
 
One is 2 piece, the other 3 (I cant remember which is which).
 
Still there international Cricketers, they should have the skill to deal with it.


errr...shurely all four piece? just someone said duke was swinging like a 2 piece? duke is a darker ball I think not sure what that's gotta do with it but the aussies didn't like it in the ashes did they!


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The forecast for the final two days, however, is far better than this
 
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what was said before about the different balls is right. one two the other 3 or 4. they are markedly different balls no matter, they seem to be a lot darker on the tele.

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A Diamond cricket ball was made in Sri Lanka in November 2004. It weighs 53.83 carats and has pure gold seam of 125 grams. The material used to keep the diamonds on the ball is similar to the one used on the wings of NASA space shuttles
 
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New Zealand 1st innings R M B 4s 6s SR JM How c Ambrose b Anderson 7 34 18 0 0 38.88 AJ Redmond c Cook b Anderson 0 7 5 0 0 0.00 JAH Marshall c Strauss b Broad 24 104 71 4 0 33.80 LRPL Taylor c Collingwood b Broad 19 24 20 3 0 95.00 BB McCullum b Panesar 97 173 97 13 2 100.00 DR Flynn b Anderson 9 36 32 2 0 28.12 JDP Oram c Strauss b Sidebottom 28 139 97 3 0 28.86 DL Vettori b Sidebottom 48 152 100 6 0 48.00 KD Mills b Sidebottom 10 66 59 0 0 16.94 TG Southee b Sidebottom 1 9 9 0 0 11.11 CS Martin not out 0 19 13 0 0 0.00     Extras (b 16, lb 14, w 1, nb 3) 34     Total (all out; 86.2 overs; 386 mins) 277 (3.20 runs per over)

Fall of wickets1-2 (Redmond, 1.5 ov), 2-18 (How, 7.3 ov), 3-41 (Taylor, 12.3 ov), 4-76 (Marshall, 23.2 ov), 5-104 (Flynn, 31.2 ov), 6-203 (McCullum, 50.1 ov), 7-222 (Oram, 62.5 ov), 8-258 (Mills, 80.2 ov), 9-260 (Southee, 82.3 ov), 10-277 (Vettori, 86.2 ov)

 Bowling OM R W Econ  RJ Sidebottom 28.2 12 55 4 1.94  JM Anderson 20 5 66 3 3.30 (1nb, 1w)  SCJ Broad 24 4 85 2 3.54 (2nb)  PD Collingwood 3 1 11 0 3.66  MS Panesar 11 2 30 1 2.72

England 1st innings R M B 4s 6s SR AJ Strauss lbw b Oram 63 231 174 6 0 36.20 AN Cook c McCullum b Martin 61 181 109 7 0 55.96 MP Vaughan c Marshall b Vettori 106 306 214 11 0 49.53 KP Pietersen lbw b Vettori 3 11 9 0 0 33.33 IR Bell c McCullum b Martin 16 47 35 2 0 45.71 PD Collingwood c Taylor b Vettori 6 39 13 1 0 46.15 TR Ambrose lbw b Vettori 0 1 1 0 0 0.00 SCJ Broad b Oram 25 85 65 3 0 38.46 RJ Sidebottom c Taylor b Mills 16 53 53 2 0 30.18 MS Panesar c Flynn b Vettori 0 3 2 0 0 0.00 JM Anderson not out 0 9 6 0 0 0.00     Extras (b 3, lb 7, w 1, nb 12) 23     Total (all out; 111.3 overs; 488 mins) 319 (2.86 runs per over)

Fall of wickets1-121 (Cook, 39.6 ov), 2-148 (Strauss, 50.3 ov), 3-152 (Pietersen, 53.3 ov), 4-180 (Bell, 65.6 ov), 5-208 (Collingwood, 74.1 ov), 6-208 (Ambrose, 74.2 ov), 7-269 (Broad, 94.4 ov), 8-317 (Sidebottom, 108.5 ov), 9-318 (Panesar, 109.2 ov), 10-319 (Vaughan, 111.3 ov)

 Bowling OM R W Econ  CS Martin 32 8 76 2 2.37 (6nb)  KD Mills 22 3 60 1 2.72 (6nb)  TG Southee 16 2 59 0 3.68  JDP Oram 19 5 45 2 2.36 (1w)  DL Vettori 22.3 4 69 5 3.06

New Zealand 2nd innings R B 4s 6s SR JM How not out 26 49 4 0 53.06 AJ Redmond not out 14 41 2 0 34.14     Extras 0     Total (0 wickets; 15 overs) 40 (2.66 runs per over)

To bat JAH Marshall, DR Flynn, LRPL Taylor, JDP Oram, BB McCullum, DL Vettori, CS Martin, TG Southee, KD Mills

 Bowling OM R W Econ  RJ Sidebottom 4 2 7 0 1.75  JM Anderson 2 0 10 0 5.00  SCJ Broad 4 0 19 0 4.75  MS Panesar 5 2 4 0 0.80

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74.2 Vettori to Ambrose, OUT, massive appeal and he's given him! Vettori drifts back in from just outside off, Ambrose doesn't offer a shot, he's trapped low, and umpire Taufel did not hesitate. Golden duck for Ambrose, Vettori on a hat-trick TR Ambrose lbw b Vettori 0 (1m 1b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00
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Yea those duke balls are almost brown! Great fightback by our bowlers. Just need our batting to step up to the plate, hopefully we get conditions similar to those enjoyed by the english batsmen!

Good to see we havnt lost a wicket yet. Anythings possible on day 5, cricket is a funny game...
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bungrightknee wrote:

Good to see we havnt lost a wicket yet. Anythings possible on day 5, cricket is a funny game...


How and Redmond actually looked quite comfortable. Redmond should have been out lbw to Panesar early on, but was very solid against English quickies, and played a great lofted straight drive off Broad.
How looked pretty good and fluent, and not in any kind of trouble at any time. I hope both of them, or at least one, go on to get a big score tonight.

Should be able to get the draw unless we bat exceptionally poorly tonight...
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With only two runs to knock off later tonight I reckon if we manage to score quickly and safetly we could give the pommes a scare give them say 220 to chase in 45 overs, makes it hard to get the runs but should be enough time for danny and his crew to knock them over!

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To do that we're looking at scoring at around 4 (or just under) runs an over with Panesar looking very dangerous.

Seems an unlikely scenario to me. I think the aim will be to survive the morning session as best they can, and try to make the game safe by tea. If we're still batting after tea, there may be a declaration later on, if only to make the English top-order a bit of nervous.

I don't see Vetorri making any generous declarations to England, he won't want to give them any undeserved ascendancy in the series, given that we've scrapped pretty well so far.
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Panesaar is only look dangerous cos we can't play spin, just like the English - its why a  player like Ashley Giles were lauded as brilliant in his time. Although Panesaar is far above Giles - bus he's nothing on Danny.
 
I'd like to see us play the last day like a one dayer, theres 98 overs to play, so we score 200+ in 49 overs or so and then let the English chase somehting.

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theprof wrote:
Panesaar is only look dangerous cos we can't play spin, just like the English - its why a �player like Ashley Giles were lauded as brilliant in his time. Although Panesaar is far above Giles - bus he's nothing on Danny.


That's academic though, isn't it? It doesn't matter whether Panesar's dangerous because he's really good, or we just can't play spin, the fact is he's going to cause us problems tonight.

The problem I see with the declaration you're suggesting (assuming we manage to score at the rate required and not get bowled out in the process) is that our win would still be the leaste likely outcome. 20 overs of clean-hitting from Pietersen and we're under pressure, and even if England lose wickets trying to chase the target they still have guys like Broad and Sidebottom at the bottom of the order who can play out 15-20 overs comfortably if needed. We, on the other hand, don't really have a bowling attack that can rip through a test-batting line-up without significan amount of help from the latter. Although that's possible, I think it would be silly to take the risk of losing a test in which we've fought hard to avoid being put in a losing position, especially after everyone, especially over there, expected us to get absolutely flogged.

So if I was Vetorri, I'd look to get the draw so that our young and inexperienced side can take some confidence and carry it into the next two tests rather than risk losing a test in which we've fought and scrapped hard and consequently completely alter the feeling in the squad ahead of the coming tests.
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Vertorri  became the first overseas spinner since Mushtaq Ahmed in 1996 to take five wickets at Lord's
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el grapadura wrote:
theprof wrote:
Panesaar is only look dangerous cos we can't play spin, just like the English - its why a  player like Ashley Giles were lauded as brilliant in his time. Although Panesaar is far above Giles - bus he's nothing on Danny.


So if I was Vetorri, I'd look to get the draw so that our young and inexperienced side can take some confidence and carry it into the next two tests rather than risk losing a test in which we've fought and scrapped hard and consequently completely alter the feeling in the squad ahead of the coming tests.
 
Possibly a fair call, a draw would be a good result for us....at this stage, provided we go on and win one! We can beat this English side, whilst they have a good solid batting lineup, their bowling besides Sidebottom is fragile - Anderson is so 50/50 with his bowling he can't be trusted, one day he's hot the next hes getting 80 scored off him, hoggard is the same, their young kid is much like Southee - good but inexperienced. So all it takes is a little bit of maturity fropm our batsmen and we could conceivably take a couple of these matches of the English.

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While I agree that a draw is probably a good and fair result for us, I would still like us to play with a positive approach and push for the win. Look what happened at Hamilton on the last day, we set them 300 and made a statement to them which Eng couldnt produce the goods. Everyone thought "what are you doing Dan?", we applied pressure and they were under the pump.

We didnt go all the way over there to draw. I would ask what would Australia do in this situation? Of course they would push for the win. While we are no Australia, I think we can at least play with similar intent, sometimes when u push for the draw, negativity can creep in, which means a lack of runs at the crease, batting collapses and this can gift Eng momentum and ascendency.

Put 300 on the board in 50-55 overs and let them chase 300 in say 43-48 overs, with the way McCullum is playing i dont think its too much of a stretch. I cant really see Cook and Strauss getting off to a flyer the way they play so a lot of pressure will be put on Pietersen.
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bungrightknee wrote:
While I agree that a draw is probably a good and fair result for us, I would still like us to play with a positive approach and push for the win. Look what happened at Hamilton on the last day, we set them 300 and made a statement to them which Eng couldnt produce the goods. Everyone thought "what are you doing Dan?", we applied pressure and they were under the pump.

We didnt go all the way over there to draw. I would ask what would Australia do in this situation? Of course they would push for the win. While we are no Australia, I think we can at least play with similar intent, sometimes when u push for the draw, negativity can creep in, which means a lack of runs at the crease, batting collapses and this can gift Eng momentum and ascendency.

Put 300 on the board in 50-55 overs and let them chase 300 in say 43-48 overs, with the way McCullum is playing i dont think its too much of a stretch. I cant really see Cook and Strauss getting off to a flyer the way they play so a lot of pressure will be put on Pietersen.
 
Exactly!!! Pieterson is not the best at handling pressure, especially if his opening batsmen go out early.

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bungrightknee wrote:

Put 300 on the board in 50-55 overs and let them chase 300 in say 43-48 overs, with the way McCullum is playing i dont think its too much of a stretch. I cant really see Cook and Strauss getting off to a flyer the way they play so a lot of pressure will be put on Pietersen.


OK, let's see - we scored 277 in the first innings (with 131 of those coming from McCullum and extras), and now you want us to get 300 at 6 runs an over on the 5th day of a test match?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for being positive in trying to force results, but within reason. The Hamilton situation was completely different - I in fact fully expected Vetorri to do what he had done, it was the situation in which we were in ascendance and with the time available it was the right call to make.

This situation is different - in Hamilton, our win was a likely scenario, here it's not. Like I said in the earlier post, we don't have the personnel to give ourselves a good chance of pulling it off. If we had Bond, and a quality, experienced batsman or two in the top 6 (let's say Fleming and Styris), then I'd be the first one saying let's try to force a result. But we don't, and I think there's much good to be gained from getting a draw from a test in which we were expected to be hammered and always on the back foot really, but kept fighting hard to stay close to England. I think pulling off the draw would be a good psycholgical boost, especially for our batsmen, and could serve us in much better stead than rushing in with a hasty declaration (or planning for one) and having that bite us on the arse. Because in that case I can see our heads going down and the next two tests being very difficult for us.
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Wouldnt surprise me at all to see Vettori give them a bat.Dont think its in his style of play to just go for a meek draw.Bring McCullum in at loss of 1st wicket with a free licence.Could make things interesting for a while.

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result :  draw   well done jacob oram getting 101


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giddyup wrote:
result :  draw   well done jacob oram getting 101


Yeah but a shame he cant get runs in the first innings of a test when we really need them.Heard Waddle mention some of his stats the other day and a very large percentage of his runs are scored in the 2nd innings.

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New Zealand 2nd innings R M B 4s 6s SR JM How c Cook b Broad 68 190 131 9 0 51.90 AJ Redmond c Strauss b Anderson 17 84 57 2 0 29.82 JAH Marshall lbw b Sidebottom 0 15 9 0 0 0.00 LRPL Taylor lbw b Panesar 20 57 36 4 0 55.55 BB McCullum b Anderson 24 65 45 4 0 53.33 DR Flynn not out 29 174 118 2 0 24.57 JDP Oram b Sidebottom 101 132 121 15 2 83.47 DL Vettori not out 0 5 2 0 0 0.00     Extras (b 4, lb 5, nb 1) 10     Total (6 wickets; 86.2 overs; 365 mins) 269 (3.11 runs per over)

Did not bat CS Martin, TG Southee, KD Mills

Fall of wickets1-47 (Redmond, 20.2 ov), 2-52 (Marshall, 23.1 ov), 3-99 (Taylor, 34.6 ov), 4-115 (How, 43.4 ov), 4-120* (McCullum, retired not out, 47.2 ov), 5-252 (Oram, 82.1 ov), 6-269 (McCullum, 85.4 ov)

 Bowling OM R W Econ  RJ Sidebottom 21.2 4 65 2 3.04  JM Anderson 19 5 64 2 3.36  SCJ Broad 17 4 54 1 3.17 (1nb)  MS Panesar 24 8 56 1 2.33  KP Pietersen 5 0 21 0 4.20

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80.6 Sidebottom to Oram, FOUR, and there it is! A much-deserved century as Oram goes back and drives it through the covers off the back foot. Such control from Oram, and he is understandably overjoyed at scoring a century at Lord's. Also probably at rescuing New Zealand - when he came in they were in some difficulty. He's done it in 120 balls, it's his fifth Test century and his first against England
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Pity he got out shortly afterwards, 100 not out sounds so much better!

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82.1 Sidebottom to Oram, OUT, and that's the end of a terrific innings. Sidebottom fooled him with one that pitched just outside off, nipped back slightly and it's through Oram's defences and clips the very top of off stump. Great ball, it was a little mini-battle between Sidebottom and Oram. Oram has saved his team though with a great knock JDP Oram b Sidebottom 101 (132m 121b 15x4 2x6) SR: 83.47
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Great innings Oram, and Mc Cullum's arm is not broken after all. A credible draw for the Kiwis. Shame the Weather played such a big role.
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el grapadura wrote:
bungrightknee wrote:

Put 300 on the board in 50-55 overs and let them chase 300 in say 43-48 overs, with the way McCullum is playing i dont think its too much of a stretch. I cant really see Cook and Strauss getting off to a flyer the way they play so a lot of pressure will be put on Pietersen.


OK, let's see - we scored 277 in the first innings (with 131 of those coming from McCullum and extras), and now you want us to get 300 at 6 runs an over on the 5th day of a test match?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for being positive in trying to force results, but within reason. The Hamilton situation was completely different - I in fact fully expected Vetorri to do what he had done, it was the situation in which we were in ascendance and with the time available it was the right call to make.

This situation is different - in Hamilton, our win was a likely scenario, here it's not. Like I said in the earlier post, we don't have the personnel to give ourselves a good chance of pulling it off. If we had Bond, and a quality, experienced batsman or two in the top 6 (let's say Fleming and Styris), then I'd be the first one saying let's try to force a result. But we don't, and I think there's much good to be gained from getting a draw from a test in which we were expected to be hammered and always on the back foot really, but kept fighting hard to stay close to England. I think pulling off the draw would be a good psycholgical boost, especially for our batsmen, and could serve us in much better stead than rushing in with a hasty declaration (or planning for one) and having that bite us on the arse. Because in that case I can see our heads going down and the next two tests being very difficult for us.
 
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Pitbull wrote:
82.1 Sidebottom to Oram, OUT, and that's the end of a terrific innings. Sidebottom fooled him with one that pitched just outside off, nipped back slightly and it's through Oram's defences and clips the very top of off stump. Great ball, it was a little mini-battle between Sidebottom and Oram. Oram has saved his team though with a great knock JDP Oram b Sidebottom 101 (132m 121b 15x4 2x6) SR: 83.47
Sidebottom getting a bit angsty there?


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Not sure, this was the take from cricinfo regarding it
 

Ball of the day
And yet, it was Sidebottom who had the final say with an astounding delivery that pitched on off stump, hit the seam, and then swung late as a devastating final measure. Oram had no chance as the ball burst through the gate to clip his off bail, and he was reduced to looking back in bemusement afterwards to work out what had happened. By then, Sidebottom was at his right-hand side, offering a sporting word of congratulation for an excellent matchsaving performance. It was a touching gesture at the end of a good-natured contest.

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Pitbull wrote:
Not sure, this was the take from cricinfo regarding it
 

Ball of the day
And yet, it was Sidebottom who had the final say with an astounding delivery that pitched on off stump, hit the seam, and then swung late as a devastating final measure. Oram had no chance as the ball burst through the gate to clip his off bail, and he was reduced to looking back in bemusement afterwards to work out what had happened. By then, Sidebottom was at his right-hand side, offering a sporting word of congratulation for an excellent matchsaving performance. It was a touching gesture at the end of a good-natured contest.

U be the judge
 
well you won't hear any different from jake..he's not one of your ricky ponting/adam gilchrist whining types...guess its a bit easier when you're as massive as he is though...can't be to many things that worry you...


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Hard News wrote:
Probably said 'get a hair-cut you ugly Ruddy faced fat cock'.� At a guess.


Thats exactly what he said.
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Apparently Oram used to play Goalkeeper, not one to tempt fate but if Paston and Moss had freak accidents and got injured, Oram could step up to the plate for the Nix. He surely would be an imposing figure in the box!

Thoughts?
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The pitch at Old Trafford is expected to offer more pace and bounce so it will be an interesting contest.

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bungrightknee wrote:
Apparently Oram used to play Goalkeeper, not one to tempt fate but if Paston and Moss had freak accidents and got injured, Oram could step up to the plate for the Nix. He surely would be an imposing figure in the box!

Thoughts?


No.
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bungrightknee wrote:
Apparently Oram used to play Goalkeeper, not one to tempt fate but if Paston and Moss had freak accidents and got injured, Oram could step up to the plate for the Nix. He surely would be an imposing figure in the box!

Thoughts?
 
He did play Goal Keep when he was younger - can't see that he'd be any better than Moss or Patson?

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New Zealand's teenaged fast bowler, Tim Southee, is a doubt for the second Test against England at Old Trafford, after succumbing to a bout of vomiting and diarrhoea following his team's arrival in Manchester.
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