Its Summer! - the Fever Cricket Thread. (Part 1)

There is this Daniel Vettori bloke....

No, they'd just be shown up abysmally.

 
ive suggested this before as a good way to bridge the gap between our domestic cricket and international level but im not sure the aussies would go for it

Very very few of them are good enough to get picked in Aus state cricket.

i would like to see williamson play. need another bowling option and hes probably more likely to get runs than sinclair

talked to a couple of the players and management last night, the general feeling was williamson is 50-50 to play but most think he should. if nzc are to stick to their recent selection policy [pick on domestic form] he's ticked that box and more importantly he's a huge talent. they may have been forced to call him up earlier than they wanted due to our under-performing/sh!te top order but we are probably better off working on young talented players rather than old has-[never was]-beens in my opinion. i also agree with who ever said give ingram another shot, he hasn't been great but he's also been a bit unlucky

Ingram: 4 innings in test cricket and 2 run-outs, didn't think he looked to out of his depth in his first innings bat until he got run out. I agree, I would pick him again.

People just look at his technique and get hysterical. He has scored enough runs at first class level to get a decent go at test cricket with the technique that got him there. If we dropped everyone who failed after four innings (especially when the same prick keeps running him out!) we wouldn't have many batsmen left.

I would either pick Williamson or Sinclair at 6, Vetorri to 8, and trust 3 seamers and Vetorri to do the job. If 3 seamers can't do it I don't see where a 4th would, especially the seamers we have left to pick from.

the worry for me is that whichever bowlers we pick, i cant see them getting 20 wickets.

This.

I agree, we're not getting 20 wickets with 4 seamers, so we may as well pick 3, have another batsman, and hopefully grind out a draw. Play like Zimbabwe in the late 90's - good batsmen who stick around and score around 2 runs an over, and mediocre bowlers who bowl tight, spinners bowling into the pads grind the other side into the ground with boredom....

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seems all we can do...against aussie that is. i think with mckay and tuffey back we could do ok against other countries. but overall its a bit of a worry, one day bowling is fine but genuine test bowling is a problem

  Downey262010-03-24 16:13:17

Vettori said somewhere he will bat 6 in this test, I would rather him at 8 with a specialist batsman at 6. I guess it's not much different anyway, he'll be in around the same time.

I think we need to stick with Ingram.  The revolving door policy isn't working and hasn't worked for years.  It is a huge jump in standard from domestic to international test cricket and we can't expect them to perform immediately.

Yes, they should probably stick with Ingram but he'll fail. That technique wont cut it at test level. The only successful NZ test players I can think of similar in style to Ingram are Andrew Jones and John Wright in his last few years. Both had far more footwork and better technique than him.

Actually, Martin is the best quickie we have in test cricket.

1) Chris Martin is a probably our best test quick.

2) Neil Wagner, when he is Nationalised.
Mr_Incredible2010-03-25 12:38:30

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i hope they play williamson ahead of franklin

I worry that people are expecting Williamson to come in and be the saviour. If he's picked, I hope he does well, and he is in good form. However, when you look past all the demand for him to play, he has the 19th best average in this seasons plunket shield. Ingram has a better plunket shield average this season by about 10 runs, has been scoring runs consistently for the past 3 seasons, and has had 4 bats at international level, and has been run out twice. aitkenmike2010-03-25 18:54:51

Thought Franko was a swap with Tuffey who is injured, and that if sinkers or Williamson was in it would be Ingram out? Or maybe watling?

Gunna be at this one...hope the weather holds...

basin test was macintosh, watling, ingram, taylor, guptill, vettori, mccullum, tuffey, southee, arnel, martin.

tuffey is out so one of patel, franklin, sinclair or williamson to take his place. the pitch is green so patel is out. they will be deciding whether three seamers can take the wickets and play an extra batsman (probably sinclair) or whether to take franklin as an all rounder which is what i think they will do. i'd be very surprised if williamson plays, the only way that will happen is if they drop ingram or watling which would be bollocks.

My understanding of it was that Vetorri wanted to remain at 6, therefore the only reason you would bring Williamson into the squad would be to bat at 3 thus Ingram is goooooone. Who knows, I guess we will find out at the toss.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/3511854/Vettori-hints-no-room-for-Williamson So Vettori wants Patel and Sinclair in for Tuffey and Ingram.  Credit for optimism Dan but we're not going to take 20 wickets and we're not going to bat enough time with a tail that long.

Yep, its the worst of both worlds!

geez just doesnt seem a good selection at all

Australia batting first.

Watson in for Hughes.

Sinclair for Ingram. Patel for Tuffey.

We haven't even won a toss in this entire series!

Feck off Watson !!

bye bye Shane

Anyone see a replay of the shout for caught behind?  Was it out?

Nope came off his pad

Vettori you ripper !!