IPL. It's a bit sh*t.
141/2 at lunch. Lead of 108.
We really needed another wicket just before lunch i reckon. First half hour after lunch is important. If we don't take a wicket, i can see them pulling away from us and setting us a massive last innings chase. A few quick wickets though and we're right on top.
sh*t, can't believe we're in a proper test match with Oz.
We really needed another wicket just before lunch i reckon. First half hour after lunch is important. If we don't take a wicket, i can see them pulling away from us and setting us a massive last innings chase. A few quick wickets though and we're right on top.
sh*t, can't believe we're in a proper test match with Oz.
Three for me, and two for them.
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141/2 at lunch. Lead of 108.We really needed another wicket just before lunch i reckon. First half hour after lunch is important. If we don't take a wicket, i can see them pulling away from us and setting us a massive last innings chase. A few quick wickets though and we're right on top.sh*t, can't believe we're in a proper test match with Oz.
We can usually go toe-to-toe with them for about 3 days or so. Done it a few times over the last 10-12 years. But they inevitably pull away from us in Days 4 and 5 (the test in Perth in 2001 is the major exception to this) and we end up being beaten quite badly, so in that respect this seems to be going according to that scenario.
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Brisbane 2/3 years ago is the� obvious one. Gone to a pretty similar script as this one except I think we may have been 30 or 40 behind on first innings after rolling them for 220 odd
Was that the one when Oram got a hundred?
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Nah that was the Brisbane test the tour before, that ended with Gillespie and McGrath scoring a 1000 and we got rolled for 100 odd in the second innings.
Last time was when Southee ripped through them on opening day and then we were horrendous for the last 4 (may have been 2/3) days.
Loving Sinclair bowling, good old fashioned Kiwi dibbly-dobbler. Outstainding!
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The team that won that last session was going to be heavy favourites to win the game, unfortunately that wasn't us. If we turned on another 5/80 (probably have to be 8/100) we might still be in it but its looking like it will be a tough slog from here on in.
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well that was a tough day, when we got the 2 wickets early i thought we would push on bit that katich/hussey partnership was just a pain. then the arnel double looked like we mite not be chasing that much. but now its guna b tough
i see ryder got 100 today in his comeback
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Interesting article on Stuff today about Vettoris potency as a 4th innings bowler, been the case now for quite a while but almost the article no bugger was willing to write because you can't really criticise the guy given what he brings to the team.
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Interesting article on Stuff today about Vettoris potency as a 4th innings bowler, been the case now for quite a while but almost the article no bugger was willing to write because you can't really criticise the guy given what he brings to the team.
Sure, he's no Murali or Warne in terms of running through a line up but he's taken 6 wickets this match (I think). Martin's taken none. We put an enormous amount of pressure on Vettori to save us, rather than expecting some of the others to stump up from time to time.
Yes, he's far and away our best player. But he's still only one of 11.
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Interesting article on Stuff today about Vettoris potency as a 4th innings bowler, been the case now for quite a while but almost the article no bugger was willing to write because you can't really criticise the guy given what he brings to the team.
Sure, he's no Murali or Warne in terms of running through a line up but he's taken 6 wickets this match (I think). Martin's taken none. We put an enormous amount of pressure on Vettori to save us, rather than expecting some of the others to stump up from time to time.
Yes, he's far and away our best player. But he's still only one of 11.
Yeah Martin has lost it but as a Spin bowler your main job is to take wickets in the 2nd innings and spin your team to victory. Can anyone honestly tell me the last time Dan did this?
I love the guy, he is by far the best we have but it is a weakness in his game, just saying...
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Interesting article on Stuff today about Vettoris potency as a 4th innings bowler, been the case now for quite a while but almost the article no bugger was willing to write because you can't really criticise the guy given what he brings to the team.
Sure, he's no Murali or Warne in terms of running through a line up but he's taken 6 wickets this match (I think). Martin's taken none. We put an enormous amount of pressure on Vettori to save us, rather than expecting some of the others to stump up from time to time.
Yes, he's far and away our best player. But he's still only one of 11.
Yeah Martin has lost it but as a Spin bowler your main job is to take wickets in the 2nd innings and spin your team to victory. Can anyone honestly tell me the last time Dan did this?
I love the guy, he is by far the best we have but it is a weakness in his game, just saying...
Agreed that there's precious little other than that (especially against quality opposition).
While I also agree that it's a spinner's job to turn it in the 4th innings I think some allowances should be made since he's had to assume the job of most reliable and prolific run scorer of late. Plus he's due some credit for the wickets Southee took yesterday - traps well set, great captaincy.
All in all, I think it's a little simplistic to just look at the spin element.
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I disagree with you to an extent their, he is in the team primarily as a spinner (well probably as an all-rounder) and the spinners job is to get wickets. Unfortunately he does not do that when he needs to these days.
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Interesting article on Stuff today about Vettoris potency as a 4th innings bowler, been the case now for quite a while but almost the article no bugger was willing to write because you can't really criticise the guy given what he brings to the team.
Sure, he's no Murali or Warne in terms of running through a line up but he's taken 6 wickets this match (I think).� Martin's taken none.� We put an enormous amount of pressure on Vettori to save us, rather than expecting some of the others to stump up from time to time.
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Yes, he's far and away our best player.� But he's still only one of 11.
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Yeah Martin has lost it but as a Spin bowler your main job is to take wickets in the 2nd innings and spin your team to victory. Can anyone honestly tell me the last time Dan did this?
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I love the guy, he is by far the best we have but it is a weakness in his game, just saying...
I sort of agree, but in his defense it is very difficult to take wickets (as a spin bowler especially) when there isn't any pressure being applied from the other end. This is incredibly apparent in One Day games, where teams will often 'sit' on Vetorri, and he will go for 20-30 off 10 overs but take 1 or even 0 wickets, and they will attack from the other end but it applies in tests aswell.aitkenmike2010-03-30 15:36:26
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I disagree with you to an extent their, he is in the team primarily as a spinner (well probably as an all-rounder) and the spinners job is to get wickets. Unfortunately he does not do that when he needs to these days.
He never has done... he's not that type of bowler given he doesn't turn it much, and we're never going to get a finger spinner coming out of NZ who is that type of bowler (nor from most other parts of the world) because of the decks.
How many ortho spinners who aren't freaks (ie: not Murali) can you name that do regularly run thru sides over the last twenty years?... maybe the Turbanator a few years back... one or two others but not consistently over several years by any stretch; and not compared to a wristy or Murali as you simply don't get the turning tracks as often these days because pitches are better and runs are scored quicker (making spinners potentially expensive) and hence why Dan has been as successful as he has - he can bowl long spells, be economical and usually picks up a wicket or two... on the odd occasion a few more.
The man, in our time and in our team has done brilliantly - as a spinner, and bowler. Who else would we have picked over the last 12-13 years instead of him?...
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