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Capital 1 2011

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energy24.7 wrote:
[QUOTE=TopLeft07]
I meant the triple down - going down to Cap 3 after next year...
My bad, don't know how I read it like that. But yeah that would be somewhat impressive!

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monkeyboy wrote:
Whats amazing about this league is how average most of the teams are. I'd definitely say our demise hasn't come from teams outplaying us or from other teams brilliance, but more from our own stupidity and wrong decisions at the wrong times. No excuse for our poor performance but I don't think the level in this grade is anything fantastic.
I think in this league teams are just very inconsistant. I have a couple of theories as to why this could be (probably wrong but..) a) most teams have a lot of young players which are quite often hard to get the best out of every week and are very up and down and b) reserve teams change a lot throughout the season, sometimes having a couple of first team players then sometimes losing a few reserve team regulars who go up. So in each case strengthens and weakens the reserve sides. I know both of these have had an effect on our side and our up/down season anyway.

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monkeyboy wrote:
Whats amazing about this league is how average most of the teams are. I'd definitely say our demise hasn't come from teams outplaying us or from other teams brilliance, but more from our own stupidity and wrong decisions at the wrong times. No excuse for our poor performance but I don't think the level in this grade is anything fantastic.
you might find Cap2 more to your liking

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Feverish wrote:

CF

 

If Cap 1 finishes Petone, Wharf, Norf Welli

And the bottom of Prem is Nui then Wests.

And Nui beats NW in the playoff match.

And then UH or Utd get promoted to CL for 2012.

 

Who gets the vacant Prem spot in 2012? Wests or NW??

 
As per CF Regs 

Promotion/Relegation

1) General Provisions:

a) In promotion/relegation matters, promotions are always completed first,

then relegations are made as required.

Wests would automatically go down, NW even if lose playoff would go up
 
(However, if IBU end up 3rd then only Petone go up and Wests stay!)

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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TopLeft07 wrote:
monkeyboy wrote:
Whats amazing about this league is how average most of the teams are. I'd definitely say our demise hasn't come from teams outplaying us or from other teams brilliance, but more from our own stupidity and wrong decisions at the wrong times. No excuse for our poor performance but I don't think the level in this grade is anything fantastic.
I think in this league teams are just very inconsistant. I have a couple of theories as to why this could be (probably wrong but..) a) most teams have a lot of young players which are quite often hard to get the best out of every week and are very up and down and b) reserve teams change a lot throughout the season, sometimes having a couple of first team players then sometimes losing a few reserve team regulars who go up. So in�each case strengthens and weakens the reserve sides. I know both of these have had an effect on our side and our up/down season anyway.


Agreed.
Plus c) Playing in the mud massively evens the field which, until the artificials were complete, 80% of the games in this grade were played in.
It's hard to show brilliance in some conditions - and that's when the margins become slimmer and the ability to grind out a result matters.

Man that cracks me up that a player in a team finishing dead last is critiquing the quality of a grade. If the division is average and you're last what does that make you?
The word sh*thouse comes to mind.
Enjoy Cap 2.
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energy24.7 wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
monkeyboy wrote:
Whats amazing about this league is how average most of the teams are. I'd definitely say our demise hasn't come from teams outplaying us or from other teams brilliance, but more from our own stupidity and wrong decisions at the wrong times. No excuse for our poor performance but I don't think the level in this grade is anything fantastic.
I think in this league teams are just very inconsistant. I have a couple of theories as to why this could be (probably wrong but..) a) most teams have a lot of young players which are quite often hard to get the best out of every week and are very up and down and b) reserve teams change a lot throughout the season, sometimes having a couple of first team players then sometimes losing a few reserve team regulars who go up. So in�each case strengthens and weakens the reserve sides. I know both of these have had an effect on our side and our up/down season anyway.


Agreed.
Plus c) Playing in the mud massively evens the field which, until the artificials were complete, 80% of the games in this grade were played in.
It's hard to show brilliance in some conditions - and that's when the margins become slimmer and the ability to grind out a result matters.

Man that cracks me up that a player in a team finishing dead last is critiquing the quality of a grade. If the division is average and you're last what does that make you?
The word sh*thouse comes to mind.
Enjoy Cap 2.
Ha so that explains the IBU v WU first leg result then - muddy wakefield 4 was the leveller? [:P]

Agree about monkeyboy's comments though, a little bit ironic but i guess the pain of relegation will do that. mb's comments are usually better than that.

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energy24.7 wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
monkeyboy wrote:
Whats amazing about this league is how average most of the teams are. I'd definitely say our demise hasn't come from teams outplaying us or from other teams brilliance, but more from our own stupidity and wrong decisions at the wrong times. No excuse for our poor performance but I don't think the level in this grade is anything fantastic.
I think in this league teams are just very inconsistant. I have a couple of theories as to why this could be (probably wrong but..) a) most teams have a lot of young players which are quite often hard to get the best out of every week and are very up and down and b) reserve teams change a lot throughout the season, sometimes having a couple of first team players then sometimes losing a few reserve team regulars who go up. So in�each case strengthens and weakens the reserve sides. I know both of these have had an effect on our side and our up/down season anyway.


Agreed.
Plus c) Playing in the mud massively evens the field which, until the artificials were complete, 80% of the games in this grade were played in.
It's hard to show brilliance in some conditions - and that's when the margins become slimmer and the ability to grind out a result matters.

Man that cracks me up that a player in a team finishing dead last is critiquing the quality of a grade. If the division is average and you're last what does that make you?
The word sh*thouse comes to mind.
Enjoy Cap 2.


The true test of a player: can you do it on a cold Saturday afternoon at Richard Prouse.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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energy24.7 wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
monkeyboy wrote:
Whats amazing about this league is how average most of the teams are. I'd definitely say our demise hasn't come from teams outplaying us or from other teams brilliance, but more from our own stupidity and wrong decisions at the wrong times. No excuse for our poor performance but I don't think the level in this grade is anything fantastic.
I think in this league teams are just very inconsistant. I have a couple of theories as to why this could be (probably wrong but..) a) most teams have a lot of young players which are quite often hard to get the best out of every week and are very up and down and b) reserve teams change a lot throughout the season, sometimes having a couple of first team players then sometimes losing a few reserve team regulars who go up. So in each case strengthens and weakens the reserve sides. I know both of these have had an effect on our side and our up/down season anyway.


Agreed.
Plus c) Playing in the mud massively evens the field which, until the artificials were complete, 80% of the games in this grade were played in.
It's hard to show brilliance in some conditions - and that's when the margins become slimmer and the ability to grind out a result matters.

Man that cracks me up that a player in a team finishing dead last is critiquing the quality of a grade. If the division is average and you're last what does that make you?
The word sh*thouse comes to mind.
Enjoy Cap 2.


Hahaha steady on sunshine, I didn't at any point make out anything about the level of talent in our team, just the ability of the rest. TopLeft made a good point and I think he's more than correct if you look at the results across the season the teams that are the most inconsistent are the reserve teams.

Anyway, you play for IB right? Because I understand your angst towards me - you guys definitely were as sh*thouse as we were though. God knows how you managed fourth lol.
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Because they are a reserve team!

But seriously i think that the reserve team inconsistancy thing was as much a good/bad thing for them as it was for their opposition, with the opposition at times being surprised by great and utter sh*te performances by theses guys. In other words no one knows wtf to expect from a lot of the teams in this grade.

Btw the season isnt over and fourth place (and others) isn't sewn up yet!

Fuck this stupid game

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Ha, touch� TopLeft. Yeah you're probably right. You boys played the better football on the artificial and deserved to win that game.

MonkeyBoy - I've got no angst towards you, just towards your laughable comments.
Surely you can see the stupid side to your analysis of the grade.
One could suggest you dragged teams down to your level, which is why you think everyone is so average. I saw, and was involved in, some high quality games so maybe the average games were just the ones involving Naenae.
Fair play to you for beating us in ONE game. You scrapped better and our heads probably weren't in that game, but we deserve our position on the table via a good defence, some fighting comebacks and good coaching.
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You make fair points, but I almost spat out my drink at "good coaching". God knows if you didn't have that bald headed ginger twat as a coach you guys may have been pushing on for promotion this year.
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What would you know?

That bald headed ginger twat has done a great coaching job, taking a team previously rooted to the bottom of the table to one that is easily safe and at times lead the league.

Not that it's any of your business but the lads have enjoyed the season so far and I personally think he has made a couple of crucial calls throughout the season that changed specific games for the better.

You judging our coach is like me saying that without you Naenae might have won the league. Rubbish. You've got no idea, so keep it to yourself.
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energy24.7 wrote:
What would you know?

That bald headed ginger twat has done a great coaching job, taking a team previously rooted to the bottom of the table to one that is easily safe and at times lead the league.

Not that it's any of your business but the lads have enjoyed the season so far and I personally think he has made a couple of crucial calls throughout the season that changed specific games for the better.

You judging our coach is like me saying that without you Naenae might have won the league. Rubbish. You've got no idea, so keep it to yourself.
not a very nice way to speak about your coach

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haha, not my words
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Yeah I can't comment on his coaching and won't but Chuckie has made a bit of a tool of himself on the sidelines (then on here) which is where he has made his mark with monkeyboy among others. I guess monkeyboy is wondering how a guy with a temperament like that can be a good coach. Granted that's not how he said it though

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I did say it in a rather angst filled way, but that's what I was getting at lol. Guess what I've been saying is that I don't think the quality in the grade has been there this year compared to previous years. Though I have been playing Cap1 7 years now, winning it once and now feeling the sting of possible relegation makes me a touch defensive of the smaller clubs when it comes to competing with clubs who have the luxury of bringing players in from higher grades to save their seasons a fine example for the last few years has been Lower Hutt. Always struggling come mid-season and end of season seem to go on a massive winning streak. Looking at the losers of Capital 1 for the past 5 years I think at least 4 of the teams have been Clubs 1st teams. Says alot really. I always thought Prems was a reserve grade but looks like Capital 1 is becoming just the same.
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monkeyboy wrote:
I did say it in a rather angst filled way, but that's what I was getting at lol. Guess what I've been saying is that I don't think the quality in the grade has been there this year compared to previous years.[/quote]

So you've been relegated from the weakest Cap 1 you've ever played in?

Indictment much?

monkeyboy wrote:
Though I have been playing Cap1 7 years now, winning it once and now feeling the sting of possible relegation makes me a touch defensive of the smaller clubs when it comes to competing with clubs who have the luxury of bringing players in from higher grades to save their seasons


You mean like blowing cash on another club's (North Wellington's) players to try, but ultimately fail, to save your season?

[quote=monkeyboy] <snip> ...I always thought Prems was a reserve grade but looks like Capital 1 is becoming just the same.


So you think your shoddy club should have some divine right to be in the league because you're not a reserve team?

Yours is a club that has, over the past couple of years, floated down to their level as they ran out of money to import English players.

It has nothing to do with the quality of the league flagging, and saying as much is just disrespectful to the players and management of the other teams in the league.

In the end, you guys were just the laughing stock of the league. So take your medicine, and your relegation, and pull your head in.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Hi Monkeybit*h ive got something for you I'll give it to you at the end of our season o.k, youve got alot of sour grapes in your mouth at the moment havnt you.
 
Top left, im here to get results not make friends so if ive ruffled a few feathers along the way i appoligise, nothing personal people, I am after all a mad ranger or bald ginger twat what ever floats ya boat sociaty has made me who i am.
 
Looking forward to the run into the end of season and the scrap for the top spots, still 6 points up for clubs to fight over and i know we'd love to get em that would put a cherry on top of a quite good year.
 
I also look forward to Varcity getting promoted and bringing another turf field to the league, so Monkeybit*h enjoy answering Smithys questions and take your horrible sh*tty #1 pitch where it belongs with your little ref and enjoy CAP 2. 
 
 
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I feel priveledged to have got such a wind-up out of Smithy.
 
Naenaes 1st team coach next year - heard it here first.
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Chuckie wrote:
I also look forward to Varcity getting promoted and bringing another turf field to the league  
Chuckie, Varsity doesn't play home games on Boyd-Wilson.  There's no indication we will be next season either.  Kelburn Park is our home ground and I'm sure our firsts can attest to its quality (or lack thereof) this year.

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WHY don't you play on that beautiful  carpet at Boyd Wilson Mossman ?!!??!!
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That is such an injustice to the game Mossman, must be, let me guess, POLITICS.
 
Bummer for uni that they dont play at Boyd Wilson, thats really bad form.
Smithy youd know, why cant they??
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Chuckie wrote:
That is such an injustice to the game Mossman, must be, let me guess, POLITICS.
 
Bummer for uni that they dont play at Boyd Wilson, thats really bad form.
Smithy youd know, why cant they??
From what I understand it is to do with the resource consent conditions when the turf is built. Something that the club is working on though so we can only hope to be playing Cap 1 football on it next year if we manage to go up.
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It is our understanding that consent conditions for BW is that it is a training facility. As such competition games organised by an RSO aren't able to be held there. 
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Whoops! I've moved my comment to the Ask CF thread!

terminator_x2011-08-04 16:38:48

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What a load of cobblers !

I'm sure you must be just as disappointed you cant have games there, CF ?!

Begs the question. WHY just for training ? Same principle as a game, same equipment but i think Chuckie must be  right. Politics.
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I am fairly sure the deal was that they could not expand use of the field beyond what it was previously. It was just a training facility, so needed to remain so.

To be honest I have some sympathy for the neighbours.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Next year Cap2 could have more first teams than Cap1
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Smithy wrote:
I am fairly sure the deal was that they could not expand use of the field beyond what it was previously. It was just a training facility, so needed to remain so.

To be honest I have some sympathy for the neighbours.
 
the old lady you gave a smiff serve to?

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Feverish wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I am fairly sure the deal was that they could not expand use of the field beyond what it was previously. It was just a training facility, so needed to remain so.

To be honest I have some sympathy for the neighbours.
 
the old lady you gave a smiff serve to?
 
I felt so bad after that I bought her chocolates and left her a note.  True story.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Alpha Whiskey Hotel?

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2ndBest wrote:

Alpha Whiskey Hotel?



Damn, I'm still pissed off they cancelled Dollhouse.

(No-one but the nerds will get that.)

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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Think we are on a different page Doloras.
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steelo wrote:
Chuckie wrote:
That is such an injustice to the game Mossman, must be, let me guess, POLITICS.
 
Bummer for uni that they dont play at Boyd Wilson, thats really bad form.
Smithy youd know, why cant they??
From what I understand it is to do with the resource consent conditions when the turf is built. Something that the club is working on though so we can only hope to be playing Cap 1 football on it next year if we manage to go up.
 
From what I've heard the artificial doesn't have consent and some bloke has to come over from Aussie to say it's all OK. Sounds a bit anal to me. But it's the world we live in.
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steelo wrote:
Chuckie wrote:
That is such an injustice to the game Mossman, must be, let me guess, POLITICS.
 
Bummer for uni that they dont play at Boyd Wilson, thats really bad form.
Smithy youd know, why cant they??
From what I understand it is to do with the resource consent conditions when the turf is built. Something that the club is working on though so we can only hope to be playing Cap 1 football on it next year if we manage to go up.
 
From what I've heard the artificial doesn't have consent and some bloke has to come over from Aussie to say it's all OK. Sounds a bit anal to me. But it's the world we live in.
 
You would say that.
 
Wrong though - that approval is required specifically in relation to rugby matches.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Nil all welly united v brooklyn
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miramar 3-1 petone
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Wharf 4-3 over Island Bay

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RESULTS FOR 6 AUGUST:CAPITAL 1:
Wellington United 0 Brooklyn Northern 0
Kapiti Coast Utd 1 Lower Hutt 1
Petone 1 Miramar Rangers 3
Island Bay United 3 Waterside Karori 4
North Wellington 1 Naenae 1 P W D L GF GA Pts
Petone 16 10 2 4 30 15 32
Waterside Karori 17 9 4 4 38 29 31
North Wellington 17 8 3 6 31 24 27
Miramar Rangers 17 7 4 6 34 37 25
Island Bay United 17 7 3 7 34 28 24
Wellington United 16 6 5 5 34 27 23
Brooklyn Northern 17 7 2 8 23 27 23
Lower Hutt 16 5 5 6 36 34 20
Kapiti Coast Utd 17 4 4 9 22 40 16
Naenae 16 3 2 11 26 47 11Naenae doing wellington united massive favour with that result - 3rd place still up for grabs
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