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Capital 2 2010

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thelastnomad wrote:
Heard Tawa dropped a player or two?


Tawa had 3 first team players playing for them. All who usually sit on the bench and needed a run.
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thelastnomad wrote:
Heard Tawa dropped a player or two?
 
point being? you trying to justify marist losing by 7?
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thelastnomad wrote:
Heard Tawa dropped a player or two?
Thats what a reserve team is for if some of the 1st team fringe players need a run isnt it?
You wouldnt be that wourried by 3 tawa 1st team fringe players anyway would ya?
 
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Every team drops players, if you have the luxury, then why not cement your place in the division, but as lonf as you keep developing the reserves, too many teams just abuse the system sometimes and dont do anything to bring the young crop through... take Seatoun and Wests! Wests have two teams in the top divisions, and the next team is a bunch of old blokes in Div 8!
 
Take yesterday for instance, we played Stop Out, and i can honestly say, they have a great bunch of young lads coming through... i really hope they can stick around for a few years, they have a great home ground, best facilities in Wellington and a great supporter base.
 
Even though we lost the game 3-2 (the ref gave two dubious penalties to get them in the game) overall they played the better football, knocking it around and did deserve to win.
 
Tawa are another team on the up, they have a decent youngish first team, some good players in A, so why not try to get them into Cap 1. They always have Tawa B in Cap 2 to fall back on.
 
Just my opinion!
 
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thelastnomad wrote:
Heard Tawa dropped a player or two?

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point being? you trying to justify marist losing by 7?


Just asking if it was more then the 3 that are technically allowed to be dropped down to play. Again, am going just by just what i heard second hand. That's all. When 5 or so goals are screamers from over 25 yards out. it hardly sounds like a capital 2 team.

Also heard it wasn't fringe players - since Tawa's first team didn't have a game at all - again this is all hearsay

Just stirring really thelastnomad2010-07-04 12:21:15
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So Capiral Football have had a fail. We (Uni 1sts) are actually on 26 points, for some reason they have us down for three draws. Must be the result that Marist didnt ring through last week. 2 nil win to us. Things are looking tight now.
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yeah the Tawa game yesterday was nothing like 1st round match.I can understand dropping players but Central down to Div 2 is just no fun for the team involved,it didn't help that Marists 1st team nabbed 5 starters nearly all defensive players and left the 2nds short and that the Marist team hasn't trained for going 7weeks on the straight.A few photos were taken i understand and a complaint will be lodged with Capital football if it hasn't already.Personally as i was playing in that match it was very apparent that Tawa had a few players that were definately not in the 1st round match and were pretty damn good players.
So good stuff to them but crap for us.
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sniper wrote:
yeah the Tawa game yesterday was nothing like 1st round match.I can understand dropping players but Central down to Div 2 is just no fun for the team involved,it didn't help that Marists 1st team nabbed 5 starters nearly all defensive players and left the 2nds short and that the Marist team hasn't trained for going 7weeks on the straight.A few photos were taken i understand and a complaint will be lodged with Capital football if it hasn't already.Personally as i was playing in that match it was very apparent that Tawa had a few players that were definately not in the 1st round match and were pretty damn good players.
So good stuff to them but crap for us.
 
firstly marist is not the only team to not have trained in the last 7 weeks so you can cut that sh*t out now - every team in wellington is the same.
 
tawa dropped 3 players from the 1st team - all who have sat on the bench for the last 5 weeks.
good luck to you and your evidence.
 
edit - and all tawa "a's" games are videoed by an over keen supporter - im sure we would be more than happy to provide this to marist/capital football if requested.
 
 
 
 
 
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sniper wrote:
Personally as i was playing in that match it was very apparent that Tawa had a few players that were definately not in the 1st round match and were pretty damn good players.
So good stuff to them but crap for us.


A few as in three which is how many I said in my above post.
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Oops hit a nerve....
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sniper wrote:
Oops hit a nerve....
 
as you do when you cant read
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Tawa A have had a pretty unsettled line-up all year with guys going away for work and things so no surprises that they had a different side to when they played Marist in the first round.  They did drop 3 players down from the 1sts but being that these guys had played the last couple of weeks for Tawa A anyway are they really Central league players or Cap 2 players?  They certainly played against us a couple of weeks ago (us being Tawa B.
Tawa B played a good game with Uni Gossies yesterday.  Was an enjoyable game, especially for us.  Got a bit niggly towards the end though.  One of the Uni strikers threw an elbow at one of our lads any he's now out for the season with 3 breaks in his eye socket. Nice one mate.  And any Uni guys that come on here to defend it can piss off as I was pretty close to it and it was a blatant elbow with the ball nowhere near the player.  Fortunately for him the ref didn't see it.
Anyway, hopefully with a couple more wins Tawa B can get out of danger of relegation and hopefully as well Tawa A can get promoted so we don't have to play them again!
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Pretzel wrote:
Tawa A have had a pretty unsettled line-up all year with guys going away for work and things so no surprises that they had a different side to when they played Marist in the first round.  They did drop 3 players down from the 1sts but being that these guys had played the last couple of weeks for Tawa A anyway are they really Central league players or Cap 2 players?  They certainly played against us a couple of weeks ago (us being Tawa B.
Tawa B played a good game with Uni Gossies yesterday.  Was an enjoyable game, especially for us.  Got a bit niggly towards the end though.  One of the Uni strikers threw an elbow at one of our lads any he's now out for the season with 3 breaks in his eye socket. Nice one mate.  And any Uni guys that come on here to defend it can piss off as I was pretty close to it and it was a blatant elbow with the ball nowhere near the player.  Fortunately for him the ref didn't see it.
Anyway, hopefully with a couple more wins Tawa B can get out of danger of relegation and hopefully as well Tawa A can get promoted so we don't have to play them again!
Gee Bob, doesn't look like any need for a video ref on this one  :-)  Looks like Sniper was spot on despite not being able to read huh?
 

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mumbino wrote:
Pretzel wrote:
Tawa A have had a pretty unsettled line-up all year with guys going away for work and things so no surprises that they had a different side to when they played Marist in the first round.  They did drop 3 players down from the 1sts but being that these guys had played the last couple of weeks for Tawa A anyway are they really Central league players or Cap 2 players?  They certainly played against us a couple of weeks ago (us being Tawa B.
Tawa B played a good game with Uni Gossies yesterday.  Was an enjoyable game, especially for us.  Got a bit niggly towards the end though.  One of the Uni strikers threw an elbow at one of our lads any he's now out for the season with 3 breaks in his eye socket. Nice one mate.  And any Uni guys that come on here to defend it can piss off as I was pretty close to it and it was a blatant elbow with the ball nowhere near the player.  Fortunately for him the ref didn't see it.
Anyway, hopefully with a couple more wins Tawa B can get out of danger of relegation and hopefully as well Tawa A can get promoted so we don't have to play them again!
Gee Bob, doesn't look like any need for a video ref on this one  :-)  Looks like Sniper was spot on despite not being able to read huh?
 
 
your a dipsh*t who cant read either...
read back the posts... tawa is allowed to drop 3 players.. and that they did...
sniper claiming more than 3 play..
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Blocker wrote:
Every team drops players, if you have the luxury, then why not cement your place in the division, but as lonf as you keep developing the reserves, too many teams just abuse the system sometimes and dont do anything to bring the young crop through... take Seatoun and Wests! Wests have two teams in the top divisions, and the next team is a bunch of old blokes in Div 8!
This statement is somewhat ill-informed regarding Wests.  I know I'll get flamed by some of the Wests-haters on here, but to say that Wests is doing nothing to develop the young crop/reserves is plain b*llocks.  Here's the age profile of the Wests reserve team that played (and beat - finally another win!) Wharfies first team in Cap Premier yesterday:

Goalkeeper    17
Left back     20
Centre Back   17
Centre Back   36 (OK - I'll give you that one)
Right back    15 (sub was 15)
Left Mid      20
Centre Mid    19 (sub was 15)
Centre Mid    27
Right Mid     19
Forward       17
Forward       17


How can anyone say that the above represents not developing the young crop/reserve team?  I will concede your point about the next team being down in Cap 8, and yes, there are a few older fellas playing regularly.  However, you should also be aware that three or four lads usually come along straight from their college games and turn out for the Cap 8 side if they are not needed for the reserves that week.  Given that the Cap 8 side has already won that division, I believe, and should be playing maybe a couple of divisions higher anyway, then there's not such a huge gap (in terms of quality) between the reserves and the current Cap 8 side.

And in addition to all that, Wests also have two U21 sides for the younger lads who are still developing and not up to playing senior football yet.  A number of those lads when they've finished developing physically, will be primed to step into the reserves or the first team as well.

Anyway, sorry for hijacking this Cap 2 thread, but I felt I needed to make a point.
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who says you cant win anything with kids
 
what is the weight of that 27 yr old please?

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Feverish wrote:
who says you cant win anything with kids

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what is the weight of that 27 yr old please?
lol! I'll leave Roobs to answer that one!
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Surely Roobs wasn't playing centre mid again?  Oh dear.
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Pretzel wrote:
Surely Roobs wasn't playing centre mid again?� Oh dear.
He was playing the screening role just in front of the two centre halves and did a pretty good job to be honest. Anyway, this is meant to be the Cap 2 thread so I'll shut up now!
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Blocker wrote:
Every team drops players, if you have the luxury, then why not cement your place in the division, but as lonf as you keep developing the reserves, too many teams just abuse the system sometimes and dont do anything to bring the young crop through... take Seatoun and Wests! Wests have two teams in the top divisions, and the next team is a bunch of old blokes in Div 8!
 
Take yesterday for instance, we played Stop Out, and i can honestly say, they have a great bunch of young lads coming through... i really hope they can stick around for a few years, they have a great home ground, best facilities in Wellington and a great supporter base.
 
Even though we lost the game 3-2 (the ref gave two dubious penalties to get them in the game) overall they played the better football, knocking it around and did deserve to win.
 
Tawa are another team on the up, they have a decent youngish first team, some good players in A, so why not try to get them into Cap 1. They always have Tawa B in Cap 2 to fall back on.
 
Just my opinion!
 
 
Good call, I have to say I think tawa A is the side that we(stop out) have played against this year that has a few promissing players in it that wouldnt do to badly in capital 1, it is a bit of a pitty about their facilities tho (grounds really I guess).
As for the game yesterday, Im sure olympic maybe dont think so but it was one of the best games to have played in this year from the stop out perspective, as it was good to play against a side who came out and played some good football against us. Most sides that we have played this year have come out and just tried to stop us from playing and then lived on the scraps or mistakes for a goal or 2. Those older fellars at Olympic still play some really good football and must have been some pretty good footballers in their younger days. How-ever im not sure they can have to much to complain about with the 2 pens that the ref gave as our striker was clearly cliped in the box and you have to go down in that situation, and the other one where the goaly came steaming out and didnt get the ball, well im just not sure how you can complain about that one, particularly when your striker has just claimed a goal after a handball to get the ball under controll and finsh, I was supprised our speaker after the game didnt mention any of these things, but hey, just my opinion. haha.
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Can someone explain the gossies losing to Tawa B?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Uni holidays plus work commitments decimated the senior squad for Varsity this week. Players were pulled up to the 1sts so the Gossies were weakened. Plus the Gossies didnt play as well as they have been for the rest of the season (it looked that way from the sidelines anyway) 
 
Pretty horrific game though, shocking tackles both ways that the ref missed. Highlight of the game was some dude in the Tawa team who appealed for handball every thirty seconds.
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I saw it differently.  Uni side seemed pretty similar to the one that played us in the first round.  I'm sure they've probably lost a few players but Tawa B also had a couple of guys out through injury.  Uni didn't seem very up for it.  They were pulling out of 50/50's and never really seemed into the game.  When we played them in the first round they were coming out to warm while we were just heading into the changing rooms.  This time they came out about 20 minutes before.  Maybe a slackening of standards?
This Tawa B side has a few good players but we've been playing a rotation policy so we have very rarely put out our best side this season.  I don't think it was necessarily our best side on Saturday but there was less rotation so we were able to put in a better performance.
I'm not sure about the comment about some shocking tackles.  I don't remember one, other than the elbow thrown by your striker which i've already mentioned in a previous post.
We enjoyed the game anyway, good luck to the gossies for the rest of the season.  Hopefully you can stop your slide down the table!
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mumbino wrote:
[QUOTE=Pretzel]Tawa A have had a pretty unsettled line-up all year with guys going away for work and things so no surprises that they had a different side to when they played Marist in the first round.  They did drop 3 players down from the 1sts but being that these guys had played the last couple of weeks for Tawa A anyway are they really Central league players or Cap 2 players?  They certainly played against us a couple of weeks ago (us being Tawa B.
Tawa B played a good game with Uni Gossies yesterday.  Was an enjoyable game, especially for us.  Got a bit niggly towards the end though.  One of the Uni strikers threw an elbow at one of our lads any he's now out for the season with 3 breaks in his eye socket. Nice one mate.  And any Uni guys that come on here to defend it can piss off as I was pretty close to it and it was a blatant elbow with the ball nowhere near the player.  Fortunately for him the ref didn't see it.
Anyway, hopefully with a couple more wins Tawa B can get out of danger of relegation and hopefully as well Tawa A can get promoted so we don't have to play them again!
Gee Bob, doesn't look like any need for a video ref on this one  :-)  Looks like Sniper was spot on despite not being able to read huh?
 
 
your a dipsh*t who cant read either...
read back the posts... tawa is allowed to drop 3 players.. and that they did...
sniper claiming more than 3 play..
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Wrong.  Sniper never claimed that.  Get over yourself.

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no, sniper never claimed more than three, but if you read the post it is very easy to see that is what he ment.
 
Anyway, they lost, its only a game, move on
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mumbino wrote:
mumbino wrote:
[QUOTE=Pretzel]Tawa A have had a pretty unsettled line-up all year with guys going away for work and things so no surprises that they had a different side to when they played Marist in the first round.  They did drop 3 players down from the 1sts but being that these guys had played the last couple of weeks for Tawa A anyway are they really Central league players or Cap 2 players?  They certainly played against us a couple of weeks ago (us being Tawa B.
Tawa B played a good game with Uni Gossies yesterday.  Was an enjoyable game, especially for us.  Got a bit niggly towards the end though.  One of the Uni strikers threw an elbow at one of our lads any he's now out for the season with 3 breaks in his eye socket. Nice one mate.  And any Uni guys that come on here to defend it can piss off as I was pretty close to it and it was a blatant elbow with the ball nowhere near the player.  Fortunately for him the ref didn't see it.
Anyway, hopefully with a couple more wins Tawa B can get out of danger of relegation and hopefully as well Tawa A can get promoted so we don't have to play them again!
Gee Bob, doesn't look like any need for a video ref on this one  :-)  Looks like Sniper was spot on despite not being able to read huh?
 
 
your a dipsh*t who cant read either...
read back the posts... tawa is allowed to drop 3 players.. and that they did...
sniper claiming more than 3 play..
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Wrong.  Sniper never claimed that.  Get over yourself.
 
that all you can come up with?
dissapointing.
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i didn't realise it was a contest
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Kezzah01 wrote:
i didn't realise it was a contest
 
wasn't talking to you!
 
anyway.. i see tawas 1st team are down to play olympic on sunday so those bench warmers might get a run against uni on saturday if the games on!
 
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wellington uniteds cap 1 and 2 teams are going to be dissapointed if they both finish in the top 2 and cap prem cant win promotion - they get stranded in their respective grades.
Cap Prem team currently 5th(with games in hand) 
cap 1 team lies 3rd.
cap 2 team lies 1st.
 
could be unlucky,
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Kezzah01 wrote:
i didn't realise it was a contest
 
wasn't talking to you!
 
anyway.. i see tawas 1st team are down to play olympic on sunday so those bench warmers might get a run against uni on saturday if the games on!
 
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wellington uniteds cap 1 and 2 teams are going to be dissapointed if they both finish in the top 2 and cap prem cant win promotion - they get stranded in their respective grades.
Cap Prem team currently 5th(with games in hand) 
cap 1 team lies 3rd.
cap 2 team lies 2nd.
 
could be unlucky,
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so what happens if wgtn Utd can't go up, does the 3rd place team get the playoff with the 2nd bottom team from Capital 1?footballmad2010-07-08 17:08:15
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Don't think so.  I think the 2nd bottom team just stays up.
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Pretzel wrote:
Don't think so.� I think the 2nd bottom team just stays up.


Correct. Similar thing happened a few years back when Karori Dreamers weren't eligible for promotion. These are the rules:

3) In Capital 1 League, the following will determine Relegation:

a) the winning team of Capital 2 will be automatically promoted to
Capital 1 (if eligible for promotion), and
b) the team finishing second in Capital 2 will playoff with the team
finishing ninth in Capital 1 (if eligible for promotion)

c) if the winning team of Capital 2 is not eligible for promotion, the team
finishing second in Capital 2 (if eligible for promotion) will play off
with the bottom placed team in Capital 1

d) If neither of the teams finishing first and second in Capital 2 are
eligible for promotion, the highest eligible team in Capital 2 will
playoff against the bottom placed team in Capital 1.
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So by the sounds of that quite a few teams in Cap 2 have a chance to go up....well as long as their respective 1st teams don't get relegated from Prem at least.Not only a hard year but light at the end of the tunnel is a bonus!!
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Naenae will come last in Prem and Olympic will win Cap 1. If Wgtn Utd don't win Prem, their 2nds can't go up and meaning their Cap 2 side can't either. But if the Prem team does go up then Wgtn Untd could have 3 teams getting promoted. No pressure on the 1sts then!
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Any results Cap Soccer website not updated yet
 
Stop Out beat Marist 3-2
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Upper Hutt beat Tawa B 3-2 and Tawa A and Uni 1sts drew 0-0
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Uni Gossies 3 - 3 Karori Vistas.

Very good game despite the playing surface. We went 3-1 up and, again, Karori managed to equalize in with the last kick of the game. It's the second time this happens in so many games. What to say? Well done to them for never giving up.

Personally I am very happy with my team's performance. Especially in the first half we played 1-2 touches max and created a ton of chances. It's a pity to not win a game when you're 3-1 up with 5' to go, but well done to Karori and also we came away with lots of positive.

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Did Uni and Upper Hutt play their catch up game last night? if so what was the result?

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2-2

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UH stacking?

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