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over 10 years ago

3 late red cards all for second yellows.  Watching this as a neutral and reckon that Peter Linney as referee got them all spot on.  Fair to say that their were few protests from the green players. 

IMHO the talking point was a penalty to blue just before half time to put them 3-2 up.  Looked a bit soft from half way where I was but Linney in good position.  If there is one thing that this lad does not lack as a referee it is courage.  Watson on early in the second half made it 3-3 with about 20 to go and still 11 v 11.  Winning goal about 2 minutes short of the final whistle when it was 11 v 8.

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over 10 years ago

Van Elia been popping them in.

A fan is a fan.

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over 10 years ago

lol you're having a laugh aren't ya??? Linney was being assessed and got power crazy. Firstly, the penalty was never a penalty. Most of the yellows weren't tackles that deserves yellows, one or two maybe, but not all 6. A half decent ref will talk to the players after giving them a yellow if their play or tackling is suspect, not this clown, he just loves to dish out the cards. Wairarapa though should have wised up as it was clear Linney refs one team when he refs. Absolutely ruined a decent game.

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over 10 years ago

What happened was some Twit named Peter Linney had an absolute Barry Crocker, dishes out yellows for fun....8 yellows to Wairarapa, 3 players got 2 each so saw red, yet only 1 yellow to a Petone player....reffing one team, can't say I've ever seen a worse performance by a ref in central league. He's surely one of the worst around.....

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over 10 years ago

Scousemouse wrote:

What happened was some Twit named Peter Linney had an absolute Barry Crocker, dishes out yellows for fun....8 yellows to Wairarapa, 3 players got 2 each so saw red, yet only 1 yellow to a Petone player....reffing one team, can't say I've ever seen a worse performance by a ref in central league. He's surely one of the worst around.....

Got to agree with you. The most biased ref I have ever seen.
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over 10 years ago

Anyone got the good oil on the Greeks turning over Edge United?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 10 years ago

I've been around Football awhile and 1 of the easiest things to do for spectators etc is to bag the referee when their team loses. Just recently Peter Linney was being praised for his performance and contributing to the game it was. Ignorance of the Laws of the game contribute to this. 

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over 10 years ago

some perspective eight yellows, I believe five were for offences like dissent, delaying restart of play by standing over the ball, delaying restart of play by kicking the ball away (2) and lastly a very late cheap shot on the side line just after being heard saying "that's my fifth for the year so I not playing next week so may as well make it a red"

In my experience you pick up silly yellows your fate is in the refs hands.

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over 10 years ago

some perspective eight yellows, I believe five were for offences like dissent, delaying restart of play by standing over the ball, delaying restart of play by kicking the ball away (2) and lastly a very late cheap shot on the side line just after being heard saying "that's my fifth for the year so I not playing next week so may as well make it a red"

In my experience you pick up silly yellows your fate is in the refs hands.

All I can say that is all you expect from a ref is consistency to both sides regardless if the ref is having a good or bad day. The ref was extremely inconsistent .
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over 10 years ago

Scousemouse wrote:

 A half decent ref will talk to the players after giving them a yellow if their play or tackling is suspect, not this clown, he just loves to dish out the cards

Want to know a good warning sign the ref thinks someones play or tackling is suspect?

A yellow card.

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over 10 years ago

Peter Linney is one of only a  few referees who produces a yellow card when players mouth off at him.  The Rapa players were showing plenty of dissent  and paid the price.

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over 10 years ago
Peter is a good referee and doesn't take dissent. When Ifill was subbed on at half time he should have taken better control of the team, Wairapapa players earned themselves the yellow cards and lost control. The guy who elbowed the Petone player deserved a straight red actually. The penalty was one of those 50/50 calls and I thought Peter was in a good position to make the call.
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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

From a non-neutral perspective (Petone) I thought the penalty call was probably harsh. Yes, the player got cleaned out but he came from nowhere to get between the defender and the ball at the last second. 

On the whole the game was played in pretty good spirits until Rapa lost their cool in the last 30mins. From where I was standing all were valid cards. There were maybe two challenges I recall where a Petone player could have been booked and wasn't. 

Despite the nonsense spouted above, Linney controlled the game as good as can be expected when one team decides to take cheap shots and swear constantly at the officials. People are also forgetting that in the first half Linney verbally warned players that if they continue to foul others that he would book them.



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over 10 years ago

So, talking points from the weekend?

Important point for Tawa in the relegation battle?

Gageme Feni not really changing the fortunes of Lower Hutt?

Rangers season finally back on track?

Palmy peaked too soon?

When do Lower Hutt play Tawa by the way? That'll be a crucial tussle.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 10 years ago

Smithy wrote:

So, talking points from the weekend?

Important point for Tawa in the relegation battle?

Gageme Feni not really changing the fortunes of Lower Hutt?

Rangers season finally back on track?

Palmy peaked too soon?

When do Lower Hutt play Tawa by the way? That'll be a crucial tussle.

18th July - Fraser Turf : Lower Hutt v Tawa

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over 10 years ago

Smithy wrote:

So, talking points from the weekend?

Important point for Tawa in the relegation battle?

Gageme Feni not really changing the fortunes of Lower Hutt?

Rangers season finally back on track?

Palmy peaked too soon?

When do Lower Hutt play Tawa by the way? That'll be a crucial tussle.

18th July - Fraser Turf : Lower Hutt v Tawa

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Rapa Time reporter clearly not at the game penalty was in the first half and no one was sent as a result. Send offs were in last 20 minutes

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over 10 years ago

aitkenmike wrote:

Scousemouse wrote:

 A half decent ref will talk to the players after giving them a yellow if their play or tackling is suspect, not this clown, he just loves to dish out the cards

Want to know a good warning sign the ref thinks someones play or tackling is suspect?

A yellow card.

Let's hope like hell you never take up refereeing then....

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over 10 years ago

zoro wrote:

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some perspective eight yellows, I believe five were for offences like dissent, delaying restart of play by standing over the ball, delaying restart of play by kicking the ball away (2) and lastly a very late cheap shot on the side line just after being heard saying "that's my fifth for the year so I not playing next week so may as well make it a red"

In my experience you pick up silly yellows your fate is in the refs hands.

All I can say that is all you expect from a ref is consistency to both sides regardless if the ref is having a good or bad day. The ref was extremely inconsistent .

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At last someone else not looking at Linney's refereeing through blue tinted glasses.  He's always inconsistent, he favours one team when her refs, he clearly favoured Petone on Saturday.  The Petone players were guilty of some poor tackling that should have seen them carded. When Rapa brought on Ifill and Watson early second half they were dominant, and equalised. That's when Linney decided to start dishing out cards. The penalty call and subsequent yellow card were harsh, as was the same players second card. Think the Rapa players got frustrated with his inconsistencies and to be fair should have altered their game and not tackled at all lol.  The guys power mad and ruined what had been a great game. When he reffed the Rapa v Wests game he dished out 4 yellows and a red to Rapa players in that game, coincidence??? 

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over 10 years ago

So much Rapa bias in this thread. Linney's obviously not the clown that some on here are calling him, or else he wouldn't be reffing Central League. Simple.


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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

If there is any inconsistency, it is that other referees allow the abuse which  is given out by players. Linney does not and why should he have to put up with the crap?

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over 10 years ago

Scousemouse wrote:

zoro wrote:

[quote=Closet Red ]

some perspective eight yellows, I believe five were for offences like dissent, delaying restart of play by standing over the ball, delaying restart of play by kicking the ball away (2) and lastly a very late cheap shot on the side line just after being heard saying "that's my fifth for the year so I not playing next week so may as well make it a red"

In my experience you pick up silly yellows your fate is in the refs hands.

All I can say that is all you expect from a ref is consistency to both sides regardless if the ref is having a good or bad day. The ref was extremely inconsistent .

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At last someone else not looking at Linney's refereeing through blue tinted glasses.  He's always inconsistent, he favours one team when her refs, he clearly favoured Petone on Saturday.  The Petone players were guilty of some poor tackling that should have seen them carded. When Rapa brought on Ifill and Watson early second half they were dominant, and equalised. That's when Linney decided to start dishing out cards. The penalty call and subsequent yellow card were harsh, as was the same players second card. Think the Rapa players got frustrated with his inconsistencies and to be fair should have altered their game and not tackled at all lol.  The guys power mad and ruined what had been a great game. When he reffed the Rapa v Wests game he dished out 4 yellows and a red to Rapa players in that game, coincidence??? 

Yip there is a coincidence, Rapa players either talked back or made bad tackles and got carded by the referee for it!

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I'm positive things will go wrong.
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over 10 years ago

Yakcall wrote:

Scousemouse wrote:

zoro wrote:

[quote=Closet Red ]

some perspective eight yellows, I believe five were for offences like dissent, delaying restart of play by standing over the ball, delaying restart of play by kicking the ball away (2) and lastly a very late cheap shot on the side line just after being heard saying "that's my fifth for the year so I not playing next week so may as well make it a red"

In my experience you pick up silly yellows your fate is in the refs hands.

All I can say that is all you expect from a ref is consistency to both sides regardless if the ref is having a good or bad day. The ref was extremely inconsistent .

[/quote

At last someone else not looking at Linney's refereeing through blue tinted glasses.  He's always inconsistent, he favours one team when her refs, he clearly favoured Petone on Saturday.  The Petone players were guilty of some poor tackling that should have seen them carded. When Rapa brought on Ifill and Watson early second half they were dominant, and equalised. That's when Linney decided to start dishing out cards. The penalty call and subsequent yellow card were harsh, as was the same players second card. Think the Rapa players got frustrated with his inconsistencies and to be fair should have altered their game and not tackled at all lol.  The guys power mad and ruined what had been a great game. When he reffed the Rapa v Wests game he dished out 4 yellows and a red to Rapa players in that game, coincidence??? 

Yip there is a coincidence, Rapa players either talked back or made bad tackles and got carded by the referee for it!

Actually it's not a coincidence. It's because it was the same set of Rapa players behaving and playing the same way in the two games. 


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over 10 years ago

Interesting comparison based on Capital Football suspensions list and compared to team lists in Petone's very sharp match programme handed out on Saturday. Two Rapa players on or about to serve suspension for 5 yellow cards, not one Petone first team/2nd team player appears on the list for accumulating 3 cards or more!

Just a neutral observation from a non Petone club member Scouseman

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over 10 years ago

whatever wrote:

If there is any inconsistency, it is that other referees allow the abuse which  is given out by players. Linney does not and why should he have to put up with the crap?

That is a stance that has always amazed me. Good on him, they should all do that it would stop that shark pretty quickly.
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over 10 years ago

Here is highlights of Napiers 8-0 hiding of Lower Hutt.

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I'm positive things will go wrong.
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over 10 years ago

Watched Rapa Petone also from a neutral point of view. A few Rapa players constantly on the officials back and deserved cards. From where I was it was a dead set penalty, unlucky more than anything cause he didnt see the player coming from the blindside but kicked straight through the back of him as he tried to clear the ball. He was booked for it which i thought was a bit harsh. The other two red cards were the easiest decision anyone could ever make. Cooksley broke up a promising attack with a late lunge and The other guy ran straight into the right back about 20 minutes after the ball had gone. Rapa's live by the sword, die by the sword attitude and poor discipline is what cost them the game, not the referee. They had the ascendency when Watson made it 3-3.

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over 10 years ago

So Brendan McIntyre is back at Lower Hutt calling the shots again, he was in charge today in the game versus Miramar.

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over 10 years ago

footballmad wrote:

So Brendan McIntyre is back at Lower Hutt calling the shots again, he was in charge today in the game versus Miramar.

It was not described that way in the after match speeches - Loyd brought him back as an adviser and a 2nd opinion on the game plan and game. 

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over 10 years ago

Brendan was definately the one in charge yelling everything out the whole game. While Lloyd was basically just standing there the whole time.

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over 10 years ago

footballmad wrote:

Brendan was definately the one in charge yelling everything out the whole game. While Lloyd was basically just standing there the whole time.

No offense to Macca but he could be in the dugout next to Sir Alex Ferguson & he would be yelling out instructions as if he was in charge...its just his way ;-).

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over 10 years ago

footballmad wrote:

Brendan was definately the one in charge yelling everything out the whole game. While Lloyd was basically just standing there the whole time.

Doesn't sound like Brendan 
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over 10 years ago

So I don't know what Lloyd is doing then with Brendan there

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over 10 years ago

footballmad wrote:

So I don't know what Lloyd is doing then with Brendan there

Sounds like Lloyd is phasing Brendon back in?

Founder

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over 10 years ago

Feverish wrote:

footballmad wrote:

So I don't know what Lloyd is doing then with Brendan there

Sounds like Lloyd is phasing Brendon back in?

 

Moving himself upstairs? 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 10 years ago

After this week will things be more clear in who is getting relegated. Tawa lose and surely 5 points behind Lower Hutt even with a game in hand is too much. Draw and Lower Hutt still hold the cards. Lower Hutt lose and then they behind Tawa by 1 point with Tawa having a game in hand. All the pressure on Lower Hutt I think, as Tawa are in this position every year.

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over 10 years ago

I'd like to see a promotion/relegation play-off for the second-bottom team, against the (Central) Federation League winners OR Capital Premier second-place.

I think the top of Capital Premier is close enough to 'Central League standard' to justify automatic qualification, but Federation League not so much. And variable. 

So this season you'd have Tawa straight down, Little Phoenix Diamond United straight up (because it appears to be obvious)...then a play-off between Lower Hutt and Wharfies, then the winner of that to play Team Taranaki.

Shall we agree on this and let Jamie Cross know? (if it's Jamie Cross that still does it...if not, tell someone else) 

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over 10 years ago

It's not.  jamie is refs boss, not fixtures.


Also, Wharf still have a claim to Cap prem.  Wee Nix would have been equal with them last weekend if KCU hadn't detonated in extra time conceding 2 and Wharf and the WeeNix still have to play each other.

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over 10 years ago

Masty wrote:

I'd like to see a promotion/relegation play-off for the second-bottom team, against the (Central) Federation League winners OR Capital Premier second-place.

I think the top of Capital Premier is close enough to 'Central League standard' to justify automatic qualification, but Federation League not so much. And variable. 

So this season you'd have Tawa straight down, Little Phoenix Diamond United straight up (because it appears to be obvious)...then a play-off between Lower Hutt and Wharfies, then the winner of that to play Team Taranaki.

Shall we agree on this and let Jamie Cross know? (if it's Jamie Cross that still does it...if not, tell someone else) 

Federation league would always have to play the 2nd-to-last place central league team which is somewhat unfair
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