Mainland Premier League

So what exactly does Keith do wrong. He is animated, loud and can lose his cool every now and then. But Martin gets up and gets him to cool down. If he gets way out of control, as has happened in the past, he gets sent off. 

Never many kids on that side anyways, apart from mine, and they're used to all of the above.

My kids play for Waimak and I took them to a first team home game and was astonished at the level of abuse coming from the sidelines at the ref/lino in particular, but also at the opposition. This was coming not only from what I assume were officials (people in Waimak jackets) and the coach but also members of the 'crowd'...

We haven't been back since...

Waimak have had an interesting year of issues with officials and the like so yes you are probably right in your call. 

Players, officials and spectators from Waimak have been banned for a number of games (including those in 2014) and have also had to send apologies to organisers and teams for their poor behaviour. Never a dull moment at their committee meetings I bet!

Yes Keith has got coaching qualifications, as had them for a fair while now.

Good start. Next issue to sort out the playing surface / pitches.

I know a person on the MF disciplinary panel and this person said they are a different breed and markedly different to all other clubs.

Compared to all other clubs/players who come up in front of them this person says Waimak think the world is against them, rarely apologise, and generally blame anyone else.

I find the kids section generally well run but I'd be concerned about the culture in the senior club especially.

Juniors tend to follow the Seniors lead.

Hopefully things improve, aside from Selwyn no club has as much potential post EQ as Waimak. 

Standard practice to charge at Chatham cup games

Actually it's Avonhead Park as the fourth one. I think CBHS is a back up. Looks like Garrick is being done quick smart. 

http://resources.ccc.govt.nz/files/TheCouncil/meetingsminutes/agendas/2014/January/Council30January2014AgendaFullforWeb.pdf

Yes I can confirm Keith sat and passed his Senior License a while ago (1999 I think). He also went through the International Coaching License with the then NZ DOF Paul Smalley in about 2004. He has, obviously, also accrued a lot of knowledge whilst coaching over the last 15 to 20 years and in his playing career before that.

As to the apparent intention to make qualification mandatory, with the threat of fines and loss of points. What an absolute load of rubbish. How can you penalise kids for not being able to find a qualified coach?

Are the courses that bad that we need to threaten people to get them on them?

Yes it is great news that there is to be some significant investment in grounds in the South and East. Obviously the EQ affected clubs in that area the most. The loss of Linwood lower fields, the erosion of sports grounds at Ensors and the drainage damage at Garrick were a real problem. The money now being spent on Ferrymead and Garrick will give two quality grounds for our game to use. The amazing amount of work that some football administrators put in to secure the investment must certainly be applauded.

Vim you must be at different games to me. I am at all Dragon's home games and the language from a couple on the bank, is over the top constantly. Keith has nothing on the supporters at times

How the retards on the bank get away with it i dont know. They all need their heads banging together, probably wouldnt do much good though as theirs only fresh air between their ears. Maybe some of the respected football role models should tell them to fuck up or fuck off.

No problem with passionate cheering and bit of silly antics, however the bank "support" from a few, often is abusive to opposition players and the assistant ref on that side of the pitch. I am no prude, nor thin skinned, and can swear as good as anyone. I am all for creating an atmosphere, but wonder how many of the families that have kids there as match day mascots would actually comeback. You can hear the language whether you are on the bank or in the stand.

I thought that was a polite way to describe them. Are u 1 of the retards on the bank? 

Fortunately, I believe, NZF are reviewing the content and delivery process and using some wise old heads in their review.A number of coaches also use other sources for their education.

I think NZF coach education is a resource you should use if you feel it would help you. I do not believe it should be mandatory. 

I do not think that the FA or NZFA or the EUFA way should be the only ways. As long as you work to the basic priciples of the game the more variation on playing philosophies and styles the better.

It should be up to the employer (club) to decide whether its coaches need to attend courses and which courses and the coach them self.

Yes I agree it can be abusive to the opposition and the ref. But I stand by my comment that I haven't heard them use naughty words other than tosser. It is football tho right?  Let's use next weeks game as a wee tester to see how they behave and what they actually say. 

And no, I'm not one of the 'retards' on the bank. 

As a supporter of a team, it is your duty to do what you can to raise up your team, encourage them and be as one eyed as possible. Appeal for every decision, make rude noises whenever it goes the other way, and do ones utmost to upset and discourage the opposition. I admit I have engaged officials a fair few times, but I would like to think my comments and harangues were slightly better than just  chanting " so and so's a wanker!" or any of that sort of crap, because I am acutely aware there are children about the place, and there are far better ways to put off a visiting manager/coach than just calling him a tosser.

That said, over the top aggressive abuse, swearing and stuff like that has no place at games. We are not in 1970s UK folks, and that sort of crap should not be allowed to gain a foothold here. That includes calling people retards, by the way...

After a couple of weeks preseason now there must be some rumours of player movement rather than debate what is morally right or wrong to shout out from the stands!

With Uni getting promoted surely this is one of the most anticipated MPL seasons for awhile

Wow, you think we've got problems on the bank and with our thread. Check out the Canterbury United one!

Vim, don't you dare bring a bucket to next weeks game.

A bucket full of beer more like.

No problem Spatacus, no offence taken. 

First time I have been called a prude (though I did bring it up), I will just add it to the list ;)

From the Ganny Herald, also in today's Press as well.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=11192692

At least a 5 year ban from ASB I think more appropriate