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Napier U19 Tournament

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24 Sep 05:11

Predictions!.......

24 Sep 05:32

Is the draw out yet ?

we only sing when were winning
24 Sep 19:15

Predictions:  Lower Hutt to win again against Birko in final again.  score is 2-1.  Also predict another hapless Olympic teenager will get sent for dissent APU.  It will also be an awesome weekend of awesome football from most teams in the sun APU.  I also predict not enough sth island teams will be entered too.

24 Sep 23:06

Upper Hutt should do all right in the satellite draw this year. Pretty solid squad with 7 or 8 who have experienced Central League this year, with 3 or 4 being regulars. They Beat Lower Hutt 3-1 in the Ivan England tournament last weekend.

24 Sep 23:10


Napier must make some money from the tourny. How much is the entry fee per team and how many teams go?

Good on Napier. Credit where credit is due.

24 Sep 23:24
sthn.jeff wrote:

Upper Hutt should do all right in the satellite draw this year. Pretty solid squad with 7 or 8 who have experienced Central League this year, with 3 or 4 being regulars. They Beat Lower Hutt 3-1 in the Ivan England tournament last weekend.

According to CF website that was LH development team ? They still appear to have a team in the semis
24 Sep 23:28
Fulltime wrote:
sthn.jeff wrote:

Upper Hutt should do all right in the satellite draw this year. Pretty solid squad with 7 or 8 who have experienced Central League this year, with 3 or 4 being regulars. They Beat Lower Hutt 3-1 in the Ivan England tournament last weekend.

According to CF website that was LH development team ? They still appear to have a team in the semis


Ohhh OK as you were..... Still any win over Lower Hutt is a good win. Still think they will do well.
25 Sep 00:11

Chch clubs:
Cashmere Technical will field a decent team in the main draw. As Christchurch/Woolston Tech, they won it 4 or 5 years ago.
FC2011 (yep we think it's weird too: amalgamation of Burnside and Avon clubs 2 years ago) have entered in the satellite draw.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

25 Sep 06:15

Coastal Spirit are running their annual under 19 tournament the same weekend in Christchurch for both boys and girls. 16 boys teams and 10 girls teams apparently.

I let my guitar speak for me

25 Sep 09:44

Draw is out for napier would say group c looks the weaker one....


we only sing when were winning
25 Sep 10:29

link?

25 Sep 11:21

It's probably just been sent to all the managers ..

we only sing when were winning
25 Sep 22:12 · edited 25 Sep 22:15 · History
chopah wrote:

Here is a link to the draw on dropbox (hope this works)

https://db.tt/E9myZiqR (main draw)

https://db.tt/ruGrvA3v (sat draw)


Thank you!

Does anyone know what size squads are allowed to be?
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
25 Sep 22:16

Pretty sure it's 18 man squads. Reckon FC2011 will be a good chance to make it out of group stage.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

25 Sep 22:30

Pretty sure it's 18 man squads. Reckon FC2011 will be a good chance to make it out of group stage.


Thanks for that, heard talk of Lower Hutt taking two teams but see they aren't on the Satellite draw. So guess it will be the best 18 across there teams.
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
25 Sep 22:37

I believe one team in Wellington is relying on the Ivan England tournament to get around the "guest player" rule and bring in a bunch of players who have been registered/playing for other clubs all winter.

I believe they are not able to do that. Anyone want to shed any light?

My understanding is that to NOT be a guest you have to:

a) be registered for the club you're playing for AND b) play 2 games for them (Ivan England games count here)...


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

25 Sep 22:38
Yakcall wrote:

Pretty sure it's 18 man squads. Reckon FC2011 will be a good chance to make it out of group stage.


Thanks for that, heard talk of Lower Hutt taking two teams but see they aren't on the Satellite draw. So guess it will be the best 18 across there teams.

Don't think Napier have ever allowed any club to take two teams.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

25 Sep 22:46
Smithy wrote:
Yakcall wrote:

Pretty sure it's 18 man squads. Reckon FC2011 will be a good chance to make it out of group stage.


Thanks for that, heard talk of Lower Hutt taking two teams but see they aren't on the Satellite draw. So guess it will be the best 18 across there teams.

Don't think Napier have ever allowed any club to take two teams.



There you go then, maybe been making false promises to the development team. Or people were miss informed.
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
26 Sep 00:15
Yakcall wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Yakcall wrote:

Pretty sure it's 18 man squads. Reckon FC2011 will be a good chance to make it out of group stage.


Thanks for that, heard talk of Lower Hutt taking two teams but see they aren't on the Satellite draw. So guess it will be the best 18 across there teams.

Don't think Napier have ever allowed any club to take two teams.



There you go then, maybe been making false promises to the development team. Or people were miss informed.

or just stirring


26 Sep 00:48
Smithy wrote:

I believe one team in Wellington is relying on the Ivan England tournament to get around the "guest player" rule and bring in a bunch of players who have been registered/playing for other clubs all winter.

I believe they are not able to do that. Anyone want to shed any light?

My understanding is that to NOT be a guest you have to:

a) be registered for the club you're playing for AND b) play 2 games for them (Ivan England games count here)...


 

to qualify as a club player you must have played 1 game for that club BEFORE 1st of September.

If people are keen i can post up the Napier rules via dropbox?

26 Sep 01:23

Is it really worth this hassle of routing the rules for this tournament. What do you get other than your name on the trophy?

Grumpy old bastard alert

26 Sep 01:37
chopah wrote:
Smithy wrote:

I believe one team in Wellington is relying on the Ivan England tournament to get around the "guest player" rule and bring in a bunch of players who have been registered/playing for other clubs all winter.

I believe they are not able to do that. Anyone want to shed any light?

My understanding is that to NOT be a guest you have to:

a) be registered for the club you're playing for AND b) play 2 games for them (Ivan England games count here)...


 

to qualify as a club player you must have played 1 game for that club BEFORE 1st of September.

If people are keen i can post up the Napier rules via dropbox?

You can not be registered to another club

Founder

26 Sep 01:39

Whatever it takes, right?


Kotahitanga. We are one.

26 Sep 02:55
chopah wrote:
Smithy wrote:

I believe one team in Wellington is relying on the Ivan England tournament to get around the "guest player" rule and bring in a bunch of players who have been registered/playing for other clubs all winter.

I believe they are not able to do that. Anyone want to shed any light?

My understanding is that to NOT be a guest you have to:

a) be registered for the club you're playing for AND b) play 2 games for them (Ivan England games count here)...


 

to qualify as a club player you must have played 1 game for that club BEFORE 1st of September.

If people are keen i can post up the Napier rules via dropbox?


Yes please...

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

26 Sep 03:58

Watch out for Hamilton Wanderers as dark horses in the main draw. They won the Northern League Premier Reserve Division this year. They will basically have the same team . Good young side

26 Sep 10:22
Feverish wrote:
chopah wrote:
Smithy wrote:

I believe one team in Wellington is relying on the Ivan England tournament to get around the "guest player" rule and bring in a bunch of players who have been registered/playing for other clubs all winter.

I believe they are not able to do that. Anyone want to shed any light?

My understanding is that to NOT be a guest you have to:

a) be registered for the club you're playing for AND b) play 2 games for them (Ivan England games count here)...


 

to qualify as a club player you must have played 1 game for that club BEFORE 1st of September.

If people are keen i can post up the Napier rules via dropbox?

You can not be registered to another club

Thats what I understand as well Feverish. 
The rules previous years have been if you are registered with another club you are a guest player. 
The playing of a number of games in the Ivan England was a means of getting Kids only playing for their schools and not registered with any club qualified.

A dog with a bone :)

26 Sep 10:26
Smithy wrote:
chopah wrote:
Smithy wrote:

I believe one team in Wellington is relying on the Ivan England tournament to get around the "guest player" rule and bring in a bunch of players who have been registered/playing for other clubs all winter.

I believe they are not able to do that. Anyone want to shed any light?

My understanding is that to NOT be a guest you have to:

a) be registered for the club you're playing for AND b) play 2 games for them (Ivan England games count here)...


 

to qualify as a club player you must have played 1 game for that club BEFORE 1st of September.

If people are keen i can post up the Napier rules via dropbox?


Yes please...


see if that works.
27 Sep 04:53
chopah wrote:
Smithy wrote:
chopah wrote:
Smithy wrote:

I believe one team in Wellington is relying on the Ivan England tournament to get around the "guest player" rule and bring in a bunch of players who have been registered/playing for other clubs all winter.

I believe they are not able to do that. Anyone want to shed any light?

My understanding is that to NOT be a guest you have to:

a) be registered for the club you're playing for AND b) play 2 games for them (Ivan England games count here)...


 

to qualify as a club player you must have played 1 game for that club BEFORE 1st of September.

If people are keen i can post up the Napier rules via dropbox?


Yes please...


https://www.dropbox.com/s/17sv1599x8bwd9u/Rules%202013.pdf

see if that works.


Interesting.
To qualify to play you must be registered for your club and you must have played 1 game for that club BEFORE 1st of September.
Only the first round of the Ivan England counted then. The first round was on the weekend of 25 August.
I bet there are some teams that didn't realise that...including mine.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

27 Sep 12:32 · edited 27 Sep 12:53 · History

... Interesting development

28 Sep 05:12

So how are Wests going to legitimately fit in their pick-and-mix of wgtn players?

Founder

28 Sep 22:46 · edited 28 Sep 22:48 · History


02 Oct 00:52 · edited 02 Oct 08:01 · History


02 Oct 01:28
azza67 wrote:
Fan wrote:

Watch out for Hamilton Wanderers as dark horses in the main draw. They won the Northern League Premier Reserve Division this year. They will basically have the same team . Good young side


Agree they will have competive side in a tough pool, however the players are being asked to pay $600 each. I know some of the player and their parents are not happy about that.


Holy f**k. Are they flying in and out each day on a G5 or something?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

02 Oct 01:38
Smithy wrote:
azza67 wrote:
Fan wrote:

Watch out for Hamilton Wanderers as dark horses in the main draw. They won the Northern League Premier Reserve Division this year. They will basically have the same team . Good young side


Agree they will have competive side in a tough pool, however the players are being asked to pay $600 each. I know some of the player and their parents are not happy about that.


Holy f**k. Are they flying in and out each day on a G5 or something?


lol - that's good.
03 Oct 08:19

This tournament is the best in the country, should be once again another great tournament with some close games in the latter stages no doubt. 

04 Oct 20:22

Which 'guest' players, who've never played for the club, will cashmere have this year? #playerrecruitmentstrategy

Kotahitanga. We are one.

04 Oct 23:10 · edited 04 Oct 23:14 · History

Wrong thread 

13 Oct 07:54

Which 'guest' players, who've never played for the club, will cashmere have this year? #playerrecruitmentstrategy

Well I've heard they've approached a couple of players who are registered at another Mainland club....
13 Oct 18:14

Not sure of tournament rules but pretty sure you are allowed X (3?) number of guest players; ie dont have to have played for the club before. Cashmere do this every year, part of retaining their status in top tier of tournament (and might positively influence player decision about which club he plays for next year).

Kotahitanga. We are one.