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over 12 years ago


Phoooooooooo..........

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Jeff Vader wrote:
Chester FC wrote:
N-Bomb wrote:

Just to save him the trouble of actually reading more than two sentences at a time - Somebody who was at the game said that Central were their normal whiney selves and thought the ref had it out to get them. 

I was not there, so it's opinion v opinion, but I'll just say that viewpoint didn't shock me.


Exactly you were'nt there so cant really comment with any credibility, although you'll believe what you want to regardless what anyone tells you to the contrary, Mirko actually had a pretty solid game the penalty was outside the box but its was his linesman that gave it not Mirko.

Where as Chris Kerr last week had a really poor game maybe its a coincidence that wasnt appointed to any NRFL game this weekend

And where in your previous posts did you mention that you heard from a 3rd party? all you did was have a pop at Uhlmann

As for you Vader keep hiding mate 

BWAHAHA defensive much. One little comment and the world is coming to an end. Funny that you get all wound up about that one comment referencing Central then throw in something about last weeks referee. Where you there at the appointments when they were made? Were you privy to inside information or are you just believing what you want regardless to what anyone tells you to the contrary? (oh wait, that was your line) I think you are a little precious.

I tell you what, I'll do the investigation work and find out for you. A couple of emails and you'll get the truth.

Found out he was away which was scheduled in a while ago. Also scored one of the highest marks of the year for premier league I am told. Put into context all the Central thoughts on that game although to be fair, pretty much everything written in the press does not exactly paint that

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over 12 years ago

after watching waitak v sports cup game, think its pretty safe waitak will stay up, and if they don't turn things around very soon sports will be going down. 

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over 12 years ago

Yeah Ellerslie are the prime candidate now. Need a result against ECB this weekend which is unlikely

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over 12 years ago


we need any result.. still there are 12 points on offer left - and without tempting fate we have been in with a chance for points in every game this year, we just need to put a fix a few more 2% er's across the park and we will get some points.

For me it's down to Waitakere, Sports, Bays and us - Bays and Waitakere look like they have squads to be ok but the rumour still is that Krishna is leaving each week - if he does i can see Waitakere being in trouble, will depend on when he leaves of course, if they have enough points then all this will do is distort the league further.

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over 12 years ago

Don't know too much about him and never seen him play....but that is a HUGE move for Bill Tuiloma. Always good to see a young kiwi talent 'make it' so congrats to him! Also congrats to Birkenhead for producing him

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over 12 years ago

Krishna will be here for semi of cup so that's Aug 24th, will get in at least 3 of the 5 league games left.

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over 12 years ago

Whats the game to watch this week?

Birkenhead v Wanderers will be a make or break really for Birko if they are to win the title. Without JHM, that will be an ask.

ECB v Ellerslie is also a semi important one as ECB will want to make sure they don't drop points and Ellerslie desperately need them.

Sports v Bay Olympic will also be a relegation climber along with Manurewa v Waitakere.

 

The only one not of interest is the 3KU v Central. I might do a half each at ECB then Birko...

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over 12 years ago

I'd say the best contest and football would come from Birko v Wanderers, they had a fantastic league match earlier this year in the wet in Hamilton, Wanderers have been playing great stuff recently but lack a striker to finish it off.

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over 12 years ago

MUST win.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago
N-Bomb wrote:

I'd say the best contest and football would come from Birko v Wanderers, they had a fantastic league match earlier this year in the wet in Hamilton, Wanderers have been playing great stuff recently but lack a striker to finish it off.

that's a fair assessment. There is nobody at Melville they'd want to pinch either

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over 12 years ago

Hi Jeff, have you seen Melville lately? They are pretty different to the start of the season, haven't been beaten in months and their two big Welsh strikers can be quite a handful. 

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over 12 years ago

Ok fair enough. 

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over 12 years ago

It' good for Waikato football that we have three strong northern league sides. Melville have improved greatly over the season . The problem for Melville is that they don't have a strong youth development programme. The rely on oversees players, this year they have 3 or 4 imports which won't aid the club in the long term . 

Paul Clout and Connor Taylor were products of Wanderers youth programme.they couldn't get into the Wanderers 1st team so they went to Melville.you can't blame the players

Waikato football must develop players within our region to ensure we stay strong as a football region . In my view , bringing in oversees players is a short term strategy

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over 12 years ago
Fan wrote:

It' good for Waikato football that we have three strong northern league sides. 


Who's the third?

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago

Ngaruawahia

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over 12 years ago

Haha nah not that strong.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago
Fan wrote:

It' good for Waikato football that we have three strong northern league sides. Melville have improved greatly over the season . The problem for Melville is that they don't have a strong youth development programme. The rely on oversees players, this year they have 3 or 4 imports which won't aid the club in the long term . 

Paul Clout and Connor Taylor were products of Wanderers youth programme.they couldn't get into the Wanderers 1st team so they went to Melville.you can't blame the players

Waikato football must develop players within our region to ensure we stay strong as a football region . In my view , bringing in oversees players is a short term strategy

Steve Williams is a good coach and to be fair, picking up the pieces after Declan gutted the club was never going to be easy but he has done an admirable job to have them back in the hunt after a crap start to the season.
I can understand kids wanting to play. Either way if you can't crack one side in Hamilton, try the other. If the best players are playing and not pine riding, that's good for development.

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over 12 years ago

Williams has done a superb job, there are only three players remaining from last year's side, and two of those barely played under Declan. So he's patched together a whole new squad and has done an excellent job - plenty of young talents in that team, Hilliar, Boss, Clout, Canton, all very good young players, some of who have gained promotion.

If we're calling Melville strong (debatable), then Narra have to be considered alongside them, they're doing pretty well this season too. Going off to watch them in an hour's time, might dust off the old football writing skills and chuck up a blog post on the match if there's some entertainment.

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over 12 years ago

Cossey has also done a great job at Hamilton also..They played there part in a very entertaining game at Birkenhead today, probably deserved a draw....

we only sing when were winning
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over 12 years ago

Hamilton have improved a lot over the last few seasons and are probably only one or two players short from being genuine title contenders, especially if they can also continue to improve their on field discipline. Wanderers young reserve side continues to top the Reserve League and if some of these guys can make the step up to first team football that will further help Hamilton's chances. Their poor results over the last couple of weeks is probably in part due to them missing Michael Built's cutting edge now that he has returned to the UK.

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over 12 years ago

Result of the weekend would have to be in div 2 with 8th placed Warkworth humping 2nd placed Oratia, at Oratia. But I am a little biased in saying that :)

All Whites | Phoenix | Baggies

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over 12 years ago

Yeah defo huge win for warkworth  and also tauranga beating springs 

we only sing when were winning
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over 12 years ago

I was going to do the first half at ECB and the other at Birko. Only lasted 30 mins at ECB as Ellerslie were utter crap as in Northern 2 level crap. ECB must have wept with joy seeing Michael Ritchie at the back cause all he had was 50y long balls for goal kicks. Just really crap stuff. I thought they had a nice young team but something has changed there. Not sure what the coach was doing but he sat and just watched it. The captain and the midget in the middle looked ok, but they missed the stocky striker up front who normally plays. Luis del Monde and Jason Hicks were allowed to play 40 yard lateral balls around the edge of the penalty area and they looked much better with out Joe Bresnahan it was 1-0when I left and stayed that way.

The Birkenhead Wanderers game was a good game. As others have said, it could have gone either way and had it been a draw, I don't think Birkenhead would have complained. Can't remember who it was but the wanderers lad that hit the post with an open goal inside the 6y box will kick himself. Dylan Windust actually has a chance to play without JHM in there and deserved both his goal including the reply right after Wanderers scored.

Relegation for Ellerlsie looks certain now. ECB are still a head but the Waitakere game next week will be interesting. Have Centrals primadonnas given up? In the last 4 games, they've only beaten Ellerslie (by one)

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over 12 years ago

Went along to Ngaruawahia yesterday, very good performance, wrote up my thoughts with an added vid of a hilariously fluky goal:

http://fromthecarpark.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/green-machine-fire-up-in-6-1-thrashing.html

I plan to get back more into the football writing routine with WaiBOP starting up soon, so if there's any games in the Waikato which you're interested in what went down (unlikely), just let me know.

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

I was going to do the first half at ECB and the other at Birko. Only lasted 30 mins at ECB as Ellerslie were utter crap as in Northern 2 level crap. ECB must have wept with joy seeing Michael Ritchie at the back cause all he had was 50y long balls for goal kicks. Just really crap stuff. I thought they had a nice young team but something has changed there. Not sure what the coach was doing but he sat and just watched it. The captain and the midget in the middle looked ok, but they missed the stocky striker up front who normally plays. Luis del Monde and Jason Hicks were allowed to play 40 yard lateral balls around the edge of the penalty area and they looked much better with out Joe Bresnahan it was 1-0when I left and stayed that way.

The Birkenhead Wanderers game was a good game. As others have said, it could have gone either way and had it been a draw, I don't think Birkenhead would have complained. Can't remember who it was but the wanderers lad that hit the post with an open goal inside the 6y box will kick himself. Dylan Windust actually has a chance to play without JHM in there and deserved both his goal including the reply right after Wanderers scored.

Relegation for Ellerlsie looks certain now. ECB are still a head but the Waitakere game next week will be interesting. Have Centrals primadonnas given up? In the last 4 games, they've only beaten Ellerslie (by one)


wow don't hold back - lucky your opinion dosn't matter in this case.
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over 12 years ago

Windust must be up there for signing of the season in the Prem. Been fantastic and consistent all season.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago
chopah wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

I was going to do the first half at ECB and the other at Birko. Only lasted 30 mins at ECB as Ellerslie were utter crap as in Northern 2 level crap. ECB must have wept with joy seeing Michael Ritchie at the back cause all he had was 50y long balls for goal kicks. Just really crap stuff. I thought they had a nice young team but something has changed there. Not sure what the coach was doing but he sat and just watched it. The captain and the midget in the middle looked ok, but they missed the stocky striker up front who normally plays. Luis del Monde and Jason Hicks were allowed to play 40 yard lateral balls around the edge of the penalty area and they looked much better with out Joe Bresnahan it was 1-0when I left and stayed that way.

The Birkenhead Wanderers game was a good game. As others have said, it could have gone either way and had it been a draw, I don't think Birkenhead would have complained. Can't remember who it was but the wanderers lad that hit the post with an open goal inside the 6y box will kick himself. Dylan Windust actually has a chance to play without JHM in there and deserved both his goal including the reply right after Wanderers scored.

Relegation for Ellerlsie looks certain now. ECB are still a head but the Waitakere game next week will be interesting. Have Centrals primadonnas given up? In the last 4 games, they've only beaten Ellerslie (by one)


wow don't hold back - lucky your opinion dosn't matter in this case.

It might not count, but it's not wrong nor have you chosen to correct me.
The 30 mins I saw, they were awful. MAP, FHM would have beaten you. This is the first time I thought you guys did not belong at that level and I have commented previously that you've got a nice young mix there. You've been within a goal all season but there was just nothing, hence why I did not stay to the half. The number 10 was a liability and you had him in the engine room. That's why Hicks and Del Monde could do what they liked. The futsal boy is not an 11 aside footballer based on what I saw.

Put it differently, if you thought that was a good performance, good luck to you. If you disagree then feel free to give your take.

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over 12 years ago
Buffon II wrote:

Windust must be up there for signing of the season in the Prem. Been fantastic and consistent all season.

I think that's a fair comment

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
chopah wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

I was going to do the first half at ECB and the other at Birko. Only lasted 30 mins at ECB as Ellerslie were utter crap as in Northern 2 level crap. ECB must have wept with joy seeing Michael Ritchie at the back cause all he had was 50y long balls for goal kicks. Just really crap stuff. I thought they had a nice young team but something has changed there. Not sure what the coach was doing but he sat and just watched it. The captain and the midget in the middle looked ok, but they missed the stocky striker up front who normally plays. Luis del Monde and Jason Hicks were allowed to play 40 yard lateral balls around the edge of the penalty area and they looked much better with out Joe Bresnahan it was 1-0when I left and stayed that way.

The Birkenhead Wanderers game was a good game. As others have said, it could have gone either way and had it been a draw, I don't think Birkenhead would have complained. Can't remember who it was but the wanderers lad that hit the post with an open goal inside the 6y box will kick himself. Dylan Windust actually has a chance to play without JHM in there and deserved both his goal including the reply right after Wanderers scored.

Relegation for Ellerlsie looks certain now. ECB are still a head but the Waitakere game next week will be interesting. Have Centrals primadonnas given up? In the last 4 games, they've only beaten Ellerslie (by one)


wow don't hold back - lucky your opinion dosn't matter in this case.

It might not count, but it's not wrong nor have you chosen to correct me.

The 30 mins I saw, they were awful. MAP, FHM would have beaten you. This is the first time I thought you guys did not belong at that level and I have commented previously that you've got a nice young mix there. You've been within a goal all season but there was just nothing, hence why I did not stay to the half. The number 10 was a liability and you had him in the engine room. That's why Hicks and Del Monde could do what they liked. The futsal boy is not an 11 aside footballer based on what I saw.


Put it differently, if you thought that was a good performance, good luck to you. If you disagree then feel free to give your take.


I think that you have taken what was a poor 30 mins (ironically the last 15 of the first half and the second half were much better) and amplified it - northern league div 2 level is quite insulting.  We did struggle in the first 30 mins but we made a system change at about that point (thats why you didn't see the coach doing anything!!) and fixed a few things up and got tighter on Hicks and Del Monte and it seemed to fix the problem our fullbacks were having.  Mike struggled at the back but he is basically playing on one leg so anything we get from him is a bonus to be honest.  
You didn't think it was a young team?  all four of the starting midfield are between 20-22, the other centre back is 21 and three of our bench were under 22 (two were 18, one of which came on at 65 mins) - I'm not trying to say we are the youngest team out there but to say we didn't have much youth or whatever you were implying is wrong.
To call someone a midget by the way - whether you meant it as a joke or not is entirely disrespectful - that's probably the bit about your post that pissed me off the most.
number 10, yep he struggled with his distribution but he works his behind off on defence and he along with the rest of the team is one of the reasons we have been in so many games - the whole team works on defence.
the Futsal lad is Dylan - and yep he struggled - not really his pitch yesterday and he can struggle when we as a team are not keeping possession very well - people who saw him against Central in the cup game will know he has some serious ability.
yeah so your totally allowed your opinion, but in my opinion you have gone over the top (Northern League Forum style) on your point.
 
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If the word 'midget' was the issue then why did you not just say so. It wasn't meant to be insulting or offensive, just a description. The number 10, Hicks and del Monde are short guys and all played in the middle of the field. This guy was shorter hence 'the short guy in the middle' is rather non description as to who I am referring too. The fact you understood who I was talking about proves my point. It was not meant as offense so I apologise for that. 

You might find the northern 2 reference as insulting but ECB never had to work to get the ball or struggled to maintain it or play out. It was kicked back to them frequently and all the ECB players had to do was hold the ball for a second and the defender disappeared off them. It was like a zone marking system and then the defender was more conscious of where he should have been as opposed to marking a man.

You guys choose to play Ritchie. If he is injured or whatever, don't play him. Saying he is on one leg, well if he is good enough to start, he gets judged on that. The fact remains, he sent a lot of 50 y ball up the right hand touch line for goal kicks.

Not sure why you are talking about a young team. I could clearly see it was a young team so I don't follow your line of thinking in that. I didn't say it was not a young team. I don't think they played for each other or as a team, more a collection of young guys in the same uniform. The thing that I have liked about your side (and I have said this previously) is that they are young kids playing for the team and not a pay cheque or ego. Yesterday they just didn't play for anything.

I respect it was only the 30 mins and can't comment in the rest. The fact you made system changes kinda supports what I was saying that you were playing poor and by the same token, the fact it stayed 1-0 validates your point as well.

The pitch... Well I've seen worse. It certainly looked hard but I guess when you look at Kiwitea, Fred Taylor, Shepherds, yours, Olympic Park, then it's not the going standard. I would think Waikaraka and Manurewas would be worse. Haven't seen Keith Hay, Wanderers this year.

If I was going Northern League Forum style, I would have gotten personal and attacked you, and not made it about the football.

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

If the word 'midget' was the issue then why did you not just say so. It wasn't meant to be insulting or offensive, just a description. The number 10, Hicks and del Monde are short guys and all played in the middle of the field. This guy was shorter hence 'the short guy in the middle' is rather non description as to who I am referring too. The fact you understood who I was talking about proves my point. It was not meant as offense so I apologise for that. 

You might find the northern 2 reference as insulting but ECB never had to work to get the ball or struggled to maintain it or play out. It was kicked back to them frequently and all the ECB players had to do was hold the ball for a second and the defender disappeared off them. It was like a zone marking system and then the defender was more conscious of where he should have been as opposed to marking a man.

You guys choose to play Ritchie. If he is injured or whatever, don't play him. Saying he is on one leg, well if he is good enough to start, he gets judged on that. The fact remains, he sent a lot of 50 y ball up the right hand touch line for goal kicks.

Not sure why you are talking about a young team. I could clearly see it was a young team so I don't follow your line of thinking in that. I didn't say it was not a young team. I don't think they played for each other or as a team, more a collection of young guys in the same uniform. The thing that I have liked about your side (and I have said this previously) is that they are young kids playing for the team and not a pay cheque or ego. Yesterday they just didn't play for anything.

I respect it was only the 30 mins and can't comment in the rest. The fact you made system changes kinda supports what I was saying that you were playing poor and by the same token, the fact it stayed 1-0 validates your point as well.

The pitch... Well I've seen worse. It certainly looked hard but I guess when you look at Kiwitea, Fred Taylor, Shepherds, yours, Olympic Park, then it's not the going standard. I would think Waikaraka and Manurewas would be worse. Haven't seen Keith Hay, Wanderers this year.

If I was going Northern League Forum style, I would have gotten personal and attacked you, and not made it about the football.


fair enough - i accept your points - i guess without debate your original post looks harsh but now we have hashed it over the moderated comments look far closer to what actually happens.  
In regards to the young thing, i misunderstood - i thought when you said it had changed i assumed you meant the youth part not the nice part.
FYI - i totally accept the first 30 minutes were poor - not sure it was NL2 poor but hey, that's hard to quantify. 
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over 12 years ago

Big week of footy ....

I'm picking Ellerslie to beat T.K.U

Bays draw

Central draw

Hamilton  win

Bay o win....

we only sing when were winning
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over 12 years ago

Birko now 1 pt off Bays with a game in hand. Where's the title heading?

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago
I watched Eastern Suburbs vs Hibiscus Coast yesterday. Was a pretty ugly game, ES had more of the possession but didn't do a lot with it, their goal was a bit lucky too. HC weren't a great looking football side but they probably deserved their win. HC striker scored a very nice free kick for the first goal and the second was a mix up between ES defender and keeper which gifted HC the win.

Fuck this stupid game

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over 12 years ago

2 horse race now in the Prem, but Div One is very exciting, Glenfield are safe but then two points separates five teams after that, at this stage it looks like it could be a Waikato battle for the final promotion spot - Melville and Narra along with North Shore are the contenders, with Takapuna and Suburbs also in the race but having played more games.

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over 12 years ago

Thought Birkenhead dominated Central today

we only sing when were winning
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over 12 years ago
Big T wrote:

Thought Birkenhead dominated Central today

 

really ? The score no clue then ....?

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over 12 years ago

Last minute goal to central.......and pretty lucky to get away with a 2-1......

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