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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Best option would probably be to get their rules fixed ASAP so they make easier reading and are less likely to get f*cked up in the future.

Next buy a few bottles of ouzo and a "Sorry" card and send them to Adelaide Road.

 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

To me it is one of two, 11 team league or a "sorry", I think Olympic is also concerned that the board is involved.

 

Why did the board get involved in this matter in all my time they never did, always stating �this is an operational matter and the board does not get involved in such matters�

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Smithy, are you obsessed with, ouzo, most Greeks only go for high quality whiskey, or if you want to upset them try �whiskey in a tall glass with lemonade and a straw� but after you order it start running.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh well, time to stir the pot some more. The hypocrisy from Oly is so blatant here. Two years ago they stirred up trouble about a player who they thought was double registered. CF made a ruling, Oly didn't like it, so threatened to go to NZF. Luckily Keith stood up and told them where to get off. In this case Oly have tried to make use of an old interpretation of the regrading rule  , that dropping a player from CL to a lower divison then back up to a Play Off game in a higher division was OK. Oly were warned before the game that the interpretation would be tested by Naenae with NZF. NZF made that ruling so CF have no need to appeal it. On that basis there's no need to change the rule - it's clear.  Tough luck Oly. And lets not forget, this is the outfit that, aided and abetted by a now ex employee of CF, tried to get  a no confidence motion in the board passed 1 month before the AGM. So tell us Oly, tell us what is factually incorrect about the above? Once you've done that, tell us what is morally correct about these actions - trying to regrade a CL player via cap 4 into a prem play off game, playing up to 7 CL players last year in Cap 1 in an attempt to get 2nd in Cap 2, and playing unfit and old Cap 3 players in your CL side as replacements  and getting thrashed? 
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rightstr wrote:
Oh well, time to stir the pot some more. The hypocrisy from Oly is so blatant here. Two years ago they stirred up trouble about a player who they thought was double registered. CF made a ruling, Oly didn't like it, so threatened to go to NZF. Luckily Keith stood up and told them where to get off. In this case Oly have tried to make use of an old interpretation of the regrading rule  , that dropping a player from CL to a lower divison then back up to a Play Off game in a higher division was OK. Oly were warned before the game that the interpretation would be tested by Naenae with NZF. NZF made that ruling so CF have no need to appeal it. On that basis there's no need to change the rule - it's clear.  Tough luck Oly. And lets not forget, this is the outfit that, aided and abetted by a now ex employee of CF, tried to get  a no confidence motion in the board passed 1 month before the AGM. So tell us Oly, tell us what is factually incorrect about the above? Once you've done that, tell us what is morally correct about these actions - trying to regrade a CL player via cap 4 into a prem play off game, playing up to 7 CL players last year in Cap 1 in an attempt to get 2nd in Cap 2, and playing unfit and old Cap 3 players in your CL side as replacements  and getting thrashed? 
 
i think they do need to change something. You cant lock in the team you played on the last day - as if some of them can't play the play-off you are a bit poked

Founder

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

rightstr, did CF give an ok for the player to play yes or no? if yes then why now has CF not back their interpretation of their own rule.

 

Remember the NZF ruling was not against Olympic but against CF, and by not appealing, I see  that it is they who have let down one of their own clubs.

 

So again I ask why would a club have any confidence in CF, even if and when the rules are sorted out.

 

I hope that you are not a member of a CF club, because I don�t think you can honestly say that your club never used the �old� interpretation of the rule to it�s benefit.

 

Or do it take it that you are one of the gutless board members or a mouth for one.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Rightstr is the man in charge of Wellington utd.... Hmmmm say no more
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Definitely a  mouthpiece for the board and old KP, united inquired so many times on my interpretation of the reg and used it for their benefit.

 

Maybe united got relegated because they were honest and did not regrade this season.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jeez this thread is depressing. I don't think anybody emerges from this sorry saga with any credit:

CF - for making a silly mistake in the first place.

Naenae - for not showing any kind of sportmanship by appealing to NZF.

Olympic - for basically being "in the right" but still managing to get people offside with some of their supporters silly comments on here (ranging from straight out abuse to veiled threats of "further action" and "it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings").

An ex-employee of CF - for being tactless enough to come on here abusing his old employer and proposing ludicrous conspiracy theories.

Everybody else (including me) - for even showing any interest in this bullsh*t.

Maybe everybody should just move on now before we waste any more of our time, money and dignity on this. Nobody died. Olympic can spend another year in Capital 1 and if you're good enough you'll go up next year.

I need to go take a shower...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
terminator_x wrote:
Jeez this thread is depressing. I don't think anybody emerges from this sorry saga with any credit:

CF - for making a silly mistake in the first place.

Naenae - for not showing any kind of sportmanship by appealing to NZF.

Olympic - for basically being "in the right" but still managing to get people offside with some of their supporters silly comments on here (ranging from straight out abuse to veiled threats of "further action" and "it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings").

An ex-employee of CF - for being tactless enough to come on here abusing his old employer and proposing ludicrous conspiracy theories.

Everybody else (including me) - for even showing any interest in this bullsh*t.

Maybe everybody should just move on now before we waste any more of our time, money and dignity on this. Nobody died. Olympic can spend another year in Capital 1 and if you're good enough you'll go up next year.

I need to go take a shower...

 
Point 1: "their supporters?"
 
If you go back and actually have a look on this thread and highlight all the actually people who are involved with the club and support them day in day out, they have stated nothing but fact and never anything ludacris or out of line. Please back up your statement if you feel otherwise.
 
Point 2: "good enough."
 
Was Olympic not good enough this year? Did we not win the playoff game? Yeah yeah, typical response will be: only cause you had RE, but dont forget about the other 10 players that also took the field.
 
Point 3: "take a shower."
 
Good idea as you are full of sh*t.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
And why were olympic in the right and Naenae considered not sporting? Naenae saw that the rules were being wronged,said they would appeal from what i gather,olympic play the guy anyway,Naenae appeal wanting the rules to be interpreted and followed correctly,AND THEY WON. I dont see how Naenae are in the wrong here for wanting the rules to be followed.
 
I feel sorry for olympic,because it was CFs screw up that led to this,but you cant have a go at Naenae for acting on their right to appeal,and by winning the appeal shows they were justified in doing so.
 
Remembering i was a fan of an 11 team league this season as a solution for BOTH SIDES,so dont flame me for seeing both points of view in what is a no win situation.

Allegedly

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

teminator I was never in the employment of the current administration so where do get the notion that I am having a go at my �old employer� remember I finished almost at the same time as Keith, it is the current administration that I am asking questions about.

 

What I find strange in this saga, is that for the last 12 years this kind of problem had never been referred to the board, but the manager has made the call with out any consultation with the board so why in this case has it gone to the board?.

 

I would say all Olympic is asking is for a simple �sorry we f**ed up� , by the way I am not asking questions because as you call it �old employer� but as a member of a club who has been shafted by the current administration.

 

critter2009-11-07 13:43:24
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
terminator_x wrote:
Jeez this thread is depressing. I don't think anybody emerges from this sorry saga with any credit:

CF - for making a silly mistake in the first place.

Naenae - for not showing any kind of sportmanship by appealing to NZF.

Olympic - for basically being "in the right" but still managing to get people offside with some of their supporters silly comments on here (ranging from straight out abuse to veiled threats of "further action" and "it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings").

An ex-employee of CF - for being tactless enough to come on here abusing his old employer and proposing ludicrous conspiracy theories.




Smithy2009-11-09 08:59:11

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
Jeez this thread is depressing. I don't think anybody emerges from this sorry saga with any credit:

CF - for making a silly mistake in the first place.

Naenae - for not showing any kind of sportmanship by appealing to NZF.

Olympic - for basically being "in the right" but still managing to get people offside with some of their supporters silly comments on here (ranging from straight out abuse to veiled threats of "further action" and "it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings").

An ex-employee of CF - for being tactless enough to come on here abusing his old employer and proposing ludicrous conspiracy theories.

Everybody else (including me) - for even showing any interest in this bullsh*t.

Maybe everybody should just move on now before we waste any more of our time, money and dignity on this. Nobody died. Olympic can spend another year in Capital 1 and if you're good enough you'll go up next year.

I need to go take a shower...




 I'm sick of it too. But BTW Critter, we got relegated coz we weren't good enough, no other reason. There you go, some honesty to (hopefully) close this thread.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
rightstr wrote:
Smithy wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
Jeez this thread is depressing. I don't think anybody emerges from this sorry saga with any credit:

CF - for making a silly mistake in the first place.

Naenae - for not showing any kind of sportmanship by appealing to NZF.

Olympic - for basically being "in the right" but still managing to get people offside with some of their supporters silly comments on here (ranging from straight out abuse to veiled threats of "further action" and "it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings").

An ex-employee of CF - for being tactless enough to come on here abusing his old employer and proposing ludicrous conspiracy theories.

Everybody else (including me) - for even showing any interest in this bullsh*t.

Maybe everybody should just move on now before we waste any more of our time, money and dignity on this. Nobody died. Olympic can spend another year in Capital 1 and if you're good enough you'll go up next year.

I need to go take a shower...




 I'm sick of it too. But BTW Critter, we got relegated coz we weren't good enough, no other reason. There you go, some honesty to (hopefully) close this thread.
Well good morning to all of you...
and yes, despite all of you being somewhat "annoyed" or even have had enough of this thread...well you seem to have spent some time even in the weekend to make some comments...well that's what democracy is all about...!!!! No one is forcing you to do anything...so if you don;t want to add a comment that is great...but if someone else decides that he wants to put his 2 cents worth well that is great as well....
So for the record...no veiled threats here my boy...that is not my style...if we have to do something WE WILL DO SO...there are a lot of other issues (that not all of you know...) that need to be taken into account before a final decision is made by both parties that is CF and Olympic.
As for these guys that they are "sick" of this thread well may I suggest a shot of malt vinegar... to be followed by"drinking"  a raw egg ...its an old italian recipe....
Mean time have a great week and ah life is too short ...so get well ...!!!!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I actually agree with Da Boss (thats something new) no one is making you read or write comments, that is your choice so if you do not want to be a part of it go away its that simple. I personally think this still has a long way to go yet. CF havent managed to rectify a bad situation. The solution needs to be a win win situation for all involved not a win lose one. Surely they can see that for the benefit of all involved they need to come up with something that works for all invloved ie the 11 team league with 2 dropping down next year simple solution to a large problem. Keeps both clubs happy stops CF looking like twats and also keeps NZF happy. Why is it so hard? I do not understand it has been done before.
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rightstr wrote:
Oh well, time to stir the pot some more. The hypocrisy from Oly is so blatant here. Two years ago they stirred up trouble about a player who they thought was double registered. CF made a ruling, Oly didn't like it, so threatened to go to NZF. Luckily Keith stood up and told them where to get off. WRONG. Olympic Decided not to go any further (Go and ask Bobby when the agreement was made as at the time there was no "need" since we didn't finish in the top two to require the points... 
 In this case Oly have tried to make use of an old interpretation of the regrading rule  , that dropping a player from CL to a lower divison then back up to a Play Off game in a higher division was OK. Oly were warned before the game that the interpretation would be tested by Naenae with NZF. NZF made that ruling so CF have no need to appeal it. On that basis there's no need to change the rule - it's clear.  Tough luck Oly. And lets not forget, this is the outfit that, aided and abetted by a now ex employee of CF, tried to get  a no confidence motion in the board passed 1 month before the AGM. OOOKKK, that sounds like a conspiracy ...!!!!! at the end of the day It  is a democracy here and YES you are allowed to do this...if you don't like that is fine as well...but please don't stop me excercising my rights...rightstr...?????!!! So tell us Oly, tell us what is factually incorrect about the above? Once you've done that, tell us what is morally correct about these actions - trying to regrade a CL player via cap 4 into a prem play off game, playing up to 7 CL players last year in Cap 1 Yes we did that by the rules....does it bother yia..???  in an attempt to get 2nd in Cap 2, and playing unfit and old Cap 3 players in your CL side as replacements  and getting thrashed?  Hmmmm..... getting thrashed...may be I am missing something here..so who was relegated....?????  
 
Da Boss2009-11-09 12:49:25
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oldbutwise wrote:
I have also just found out that apparently Marist played an inelegiable player in the first game against Olympic and that said player got booked hence CF wrere suppose to notify Olympic and Marist, take the points away from them and give them to Olympic at which point this would not have happened as Olympic would have won the league. Funny all this, at the end of the day CF and make an absolute mess of all of this so it will be interesting to see what they will do for all clubs concerned to make amends. I think overall as someone mentioned above they are new and need time to be allowed to get to grips with every thing but they also need to stand up front say they have made mistakes make a decision that is in favor of football in general and move forward.
That is currently being investigated...by CF, lets wait and see what their ruling will be as according to their own (CF regs and rules)
Reg 2 /5

5) In the event of a breach of the Registration/Transfer regulation being brought
to the attention of the Manager, I.e. by a Referee�s Misconduct report or other
report, the following sanctions will apply:

a) the offending Club shall forfeit any points gained - the opposing Club is to be credited with a 2 - 0 winning result......

Why did CF did not take the points of the offending team as has happened in the past...????
Or is this another conspiracy...??????
Da Boss2009-11-09 12:06:17
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Rightstr, get your facts correct, IT WAS ME THAT TOLD THE GREEKS TO PULL THIER HEAD IN and also the final call would be made if points were required for promotion or relegation by either team.

 

There were 2 reasons I made the call as I did  (a) the Greeks had registered the player concerned with an incorrect DOB ect, therefore it was United that had the correct registration details.

 

And (b) the player had also not supplied correct info to his new club (don�t get me started on this point)

 

Once I had made the decision Keith backed me up and there no threats made by Olympic to go to NZF.

 

What is your problem with Olympic? is it because they also play at Newtown and are you worried that they just may take it over.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Olympic's home ground is wakefield # 2  isn't it?
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
This has become childish, which is a shame because it is a significant issue.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
This has become childish, which is a shame because it is a significant issue.
You must have scared them all off Smithy....!!!!
Especially  rightstr...!!! 
 I did hear though that he is apparently jumped the "ship" and will let someone else take over.
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