Straya - A-League and State Leagues

Auckland A-League Franchise 2012-13

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I never said Ivan was the only ASB Premiership player who could play in the A-League.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:

I never said Ivan was the only ASB Premiership player who could play in the A-League.



I realise that now. Apologies. You said Auckland City players right? Still I do think a number of them could compete/do well in the A-League


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playwithFire wrote:

is no one interested in buying us out if Terry goes bust?


 



Yeah perhaps Morgan would come in if Terry was willing to sell the whole thing, but untill then I doubt many people would ewant to effectively be business partners with him



Remember the license and authority to run the club is not actually Terry's to sell.Terry could  sell the company that runs the Phoenix, if any one wanted to buy it.

Looking at the recent past -Jets- there seemed to be a definite process.
The FFA took the license off previous owner Con Constantine ( who was in serious financial difficulties that threatened the viablity of the club) and announced that Nathan Tinkler had stepped in as the new owner.

This process may vary slightly given FootballNZ hold the license, but essentially its likely something similar would happen.
I hope it doesn't come to this and Terry can sort it.., we will see.
I would be surprised if interested parties hadn't already contacted NZF and/or the FFA and that, if Terry's negotiations are not successful, these step forward.


  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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A couple of things...
 
I thought NZF didn't hold the A-League license anymore and it had been handed over to Century City Football 100%?
 
David Mulligan is definitely good enough to do a job somewhere in the A-League. He didn't play over 150 games in the English Championship and League One by accident. But the trick is to be the right player, at the right club, playing in the right system, for the right coach, at the right time innit?
 
An Auckland franchise is a lovely thought but not right now.
 
The FFA really needs to sort the A-League out soonish.
 

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zonknz wrote:
bwtcf wrote:
 
That said, I am all for a second NZ franchise. I don't care if it is based in Auckland or Christchurch or Hamilton or wherever. As long as it is well structured and well funded and well run.
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Well, that would be a first for the A-League- a well funded and well run team!

Could we worry about that for the other 10/11 teams first? Expecting local millionaires to run football so we have something to do at the weekends is not viable- it's suicidal.

When even the Roar is f**ked to the extent of $1.5m AU - something is very, very wrong with the A-League indeed.


[QUOTE=Hard News]This.


Crucial the FFA sort the business model out for the survival of all clubs ..and the A-League itself. Lots of talk about this since WC bid debacle for a complete re-focus.The health of the game in Australia and by extension NZ is impacted by it.Needs addressing.

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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terminator_x wrote:
A couple of things...
 
I thought NZF didn't hold the A-League license anymore and it had been handed over to Century City Football 100%?
 

The doom post article said this, dont know if its true or not.
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Is there a news story or media release I can link to to get more on this Auckland FC bid/dream?
Cheers
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I hope they get a licence, so we can trounce them 
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AJ13 wrote:
I hope they get a licence, so we can trounce them 
 
Who's we? Scott Base United (against frostbite and boredom)?
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Jag wrote:
 
He was in an A League squad and wasn't deemed good enough to get on the park. He also wasn't  snapped up by another A League franchise when the Nix got shot of him. Ricki isn't always right but I'm with him on this one.
 
 


To get in an Aussie team though Mulligan comes in as an import. That means he has to be considered good enough to take an import spot, and they tend to hold on to those for what are thought to be top line players (yes I know there are examples of import donkeys, but it is the principle, not the practice I am talking about)

Wheras lots of the Aussie players in the squads are journeymen, and Mulligan wouldnt look out of place amongst them.


hepatitis2011-02-08 14:29:39
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Apart from that though, this is a pie on the sky idea. The A league teams are in trouble, our team is in trouble, so lets start talking about another team somewhere....not
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scribbler wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
I hope they get a licence, so we can trounce them 
 
Who's we? Scott Base United (against frostbite and boredom)?
Be nice, Antarctica is a legitimate football nation. After all, FIFA is planning to award them the 2026 World Cup...
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Robb wrote:
scribbler wrote:
[QUOTE=AJ13]I hope they get a licence, so we can trounce them 
 
Who's we? Scott Base United (against frostbite and boredom)?


Hey we're pretty good, Antarctic Confederation Champions in fact


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Robb wrote:
scribbler wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
I hope they get a licence, so we can trounce them 
 
Who's we? Scott Base United (against frostbite and boredom)?
Be nice, Antarctica is a legitimate football nation. After all, FIFA is planning to award them the 2026 World Cup...
 
That'll balance the Qatar world cup just nicely...
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Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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As an Aucklander it might sound weird to say, but I don't know if I want there to be an Auckland club. Maybe in the distant future, but not now. Firstly I doubt it would be viable financially, and secondly, a lot of us up here support the Nix. I for one would continue doing so. What the hell else would I do with all this merchandise?!

Give it to Christchurch if there has to be another one. Just can you both please play some preseason games up here?
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are they part of the OFC? Or do they have their own regions?

Every team in the world should have a route to the Club World Cup, so how does this Antarctic team qualify?


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Footpaul wrote:
As an Aucklander it might sound weird to say, but I don't know if I want there to be an Auckland club. Maybe in the distant future, but not now. Firstly I doubt it would be viable financially, and secondly, a lot of us up here support the Nix. I for one would continue doing so. What the hell else would I do with all this merchandise?!

Give it to Christchurch if there has to be another one. Just can you both please play some preseason games up here?
 
Go on, admit it. You're not really an Aucklander are you?
 
You're from the Tron.
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Paulinho wrote:
Robb wrote:
scribbler wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
I hope they get a licence, so we can trounce them 
 
Who's we? Scott Base United (against frostbite and boredom)?
Be nice, Antarctica is a legitimate football nation. After all, FIFA is planning to award them the 2026 World Cup...
 
That'll balance the Qatar world cup just nicely...
 
With an ice pack in each hand? Or Eskimo Pies?
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Tegal wrote:
 
In a small country with only 2 professional teams,you can't tell me that it wouldn't be considered a derby. Especially with the tension between Auckland and Wellington football wise (with varying degrees of banter and seriousness. I.E "jaffas" to...."knitting circle")
 
I am not saying there is no rivalry. I am not saying it wouldn't have added spice. I am not saying there would not be tensions played out.
 
I'm just saying it's not a Derby. You don't have to be in England to have a Derby. Milan has derbies, Madrid has derbies, New York has derbies, Rio de Janeiro has derbies...
 
Sky is promoting the Super 15 clashes between the Blues and the Crusaders as a "derby" now too. It's simply not. It's a 'local' clash, sure, but it's not a derby match. That term has a meaning and it's two teams from the same city playing.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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Junior82 wrote:
Footpaul wrote:
As an Aucklander it might sound weird to say, but I don't know if I want there to be an Auckland club. Maybe in the distant future, but not now. Firstly I doubt it would be viable financially, and secondly, a lot of us up here support the Nix. I for one would continue doing so. What the hell else would I do with all this merchandise?!

Give it to Christchurch if there has to be another one. Just can you both please play some preseason games up here?
 
Go on, admit it. You're not really an Aucklander are you?
 
You're from the Tron.
 
 
I'm in the same boat. If a franchise opened up here I'd probably go and watch them now and again, but I'd still support the Nix.
 
Mind you, I am an honorary Wellingtonian after living there for several years after my arrival in this fine country.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Sky have been to East Anglia then I take it?
 
Good point Dave... I always thought that when people said "East Anglian Derby" that they had implied little single quote marks around the word 'derby' to acknowledge that it wasn't actually a real derby match... but that in East Anglian terms it was as big a match as you can get...
 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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Jag wrote:
 
Mind you, I am an honorary Wellingtonian after living there for several years after my arrival in this fine country.
 
Dunedin = Edinburgh of the South
Wgtn = Glasgow of the Antipodes

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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bwtcf wrote:
Tegal wrote:
 
In a small country with only 2 professional teams,you can't tell me that it wouldn't be considered a derby. Especially with the tension between Auckland and Wellington football wise (with varying degrees of banter and seriousness. I.E "jaffas" to...."knitting circle")
 
I am not saying there is no rivalry. I am not saying it wouldn't have added spice. I am not saying there would not be tensions played out.
 
I'm just saying it's not a Derby. You don't have to be in England to have a Derby. Milan has derbies, Madrid has derbies, New York has derbies, Rio de Janeiro has derbies...
 
Sky is promoting the Super 15 clashes between the Blues and the Crusaders as a "derby" now too. It's simply not. It's a 'local' clash, sure, but it's not a derby match. That term has a meaning and it's two teams from the same city playing.
 
English is a constantly evolving language - faster than ever in this Internet era - and  'derby' is now widely understood to mean a game between teams that are in close proximity - i.e. Blues vs Crusaders.  Sorry!
 
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Who does Derby County have a derby with?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Junior82 wrote:
Jag wrote:
 
Mind you, I am an honorary Wellingtonian after living there for several years after my arrival in this fine country.
 
Dunedin = Edinburgh of the South
Wgtn = Glasgow of the Antipodes
 
We made the right choice then 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Junior82 wrote:
Who does Derby County have a derby with?
 
Nottingham Forest 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Junior82 wrote:
Footpaul wrote:
As an Aucklander it might sound weird to say, but I don't know if I want there to be an Auckland club. Maybe in the distant future, but not now. Firstly I doubt it would be viable financially, and secondly, a lot of us up here support the Nix. I for one would continue doing so. What the hell else would I do with all this merchandise?!

Give it to Christchurch if there has to be another one. Just can you both please play some preseason games up here?
 
Go on, admit it. You're not really an Aucklander are you?
 
You're from the Tron.
 


Sorry, Auckland born and bred. Apart from two formative years spent in the city of Thames.
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Where is sneakyrat??????

He is about to unveil his team*

*pending lotto results

http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/users/195

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Junior82 wrote:
Jag wrote:
 
Mind you, I am an honorary Wellingtonian after living there for several years after my arrival in this fine country.
 
Dunedin = Edinburgh of the South
Wgtn = Glasgow of the Antipodes


Would that make Newtown Paisley then? Noice

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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Wiki has a wee article on the term local derby for those that want to decide whether or not it could rightfully be called a derby (and including whether Derby County have/had a derby).

Not conclusive. Because that's the way it is (shock, horror, Wiki could be right). Proximity is pretty much a must have - and in A-League terms, you could argue a case for the Kiwi-Derby. Appears though that in modern usage, rivalry and derby get confused,

Always quite liked the concept of the Perth-Phoenix anti-derby. But it never caught on.

I know, I know, its serious!

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Oh FFS.  It wud be derby.  I can't stand Auckland.

Stevo2011-02-08 20:22:00
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As much as I would love a Auckland team up here. I also agree that it just would not work. At the moment any way.

And I would also keep on supporting the NIX. But a derby would be cool to. I know how much you Wellingtonians hate us JAFFAS
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what are the chances of this occuring?

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Oh come on, that's not a real latt�, it's too flat.
Back on subject, I'd rather take a million or two from the FIFA Club World Cup each year and feed it back to the grass roots and out to the Islands.
Long term growing the Pacific and NZ is my priority, rather than losing $2 million a year in Oz.
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NHpeter wrote:
As much as I would love a Auckland team up here. I also agree that it just would not work. At the moment any way.

And I would also keep on supporting the NIX. But a derby would be cool to. I know how much you Wellingtonians hate us JAFFAS


Two years in Thames and I hate JAFFAS.
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Thanks Linds2, I don't mind you reminding us Auckland have a killer instinct.  Keep it up.  What would the supporters be called?  The Blue Wave and may be a senior group called the Blue Rinse!!!
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