Auckland FC - Once the Knights, Always the Knights

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I've seen AFC fans complaining that the Fever are not talking about them enough or giving them enough respect.

I'd say, Phoenix supporters have other things on our mind right now and it's a bit presumptuous to expect respect straight away. When things get a bit more tangible in the pre-season I'd expect the rivalry to start building, but it has to be organic and not plastic.

Which is why the comment about Folley paying for a fan forum is also bad, the club and the fan group have to develop in isolation from each other, otherwise it's just too manufactured. 

There's a lot of entitlement going on, Auckland FC fans are welcome to sit in their allocated seats and be quiet the entire game when it's their home game, Phoenix home game you play by the Fever's rules.

Respect is earned not given. 
These dickish shenanigans from supposed owners will hardly result in the endearment they all crave.

The owners have said they know nothing about it - anything to the counter is just speculation, so in fairness to them, the only thing dickish in your post is your go at them based on nothing factual... and if it turns out to be true was it really that bad?

Are we going to be a forum that finds everything we do Derby related (like posting a new map of NZ etc) is hillarious and anything by them is in poor taste?

It's football people. Yes, love the game passionately but with a sense of joy otherwise it loses it meaning.
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I've seen AFC fans complaining that the Fever are not talking about them enough or giving them enough respect.

I'd say, Phoenix supporters have other things on our mind right now and it's a bit presumptuous to expect respect straight away. When things get a bit more tangible in the pre-season I'd expect the rivalry to start building, but it has to be organic and not plastic.

Which is why the comment about Folley paying for a fan forum is also bad, the club and the fan group have to develop in isolation from each other, otherwise it's just too manufactured. 

There's a lot of entitlement going on, Auckland FC fans are welcome to sit in their allocated seats and be quiet the entire game when it's their home game, Phoenix home game you play by the Fever's rules.

Respect is earned not given. 
These dickish shenanigans from supposed owners will hardly result in the endearment they all crave.

The owners have said they know nothing about it - anything to the counter is just speculation, so in fairness to them, the only thing dickish in your post is your go at them based on nothing factual... and if it turns out to be true was it really that bad?

Are we going to be a forum that finds everything we do Derby related (like posting a new map of NZ etc) is hillarious and anything by them is in poor taste?

It's football people. Yes, love the game passionately but with a sense of joy otherwise it loses it meaning.

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Sounds like you're needed over on the AFC forums lad...
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Just reading some of these comments...

Let's be the "classier" supporter group. No need to be spies or worry about what they are saying about the YF. We have history, experience and hopefully a championship behind us. 

Wait for the first derby and show them up with a win on and off the field! 


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This leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Add to this the increasingly nasty ramblings about the Phoenix from their supporters' Facebook forums. Auckland FC are becoming The Nasty Club.

I would have thought you would be smart enough to know in all groups there are some bad eggs and not to judge the entire group based on the small percentage of dickheads.

If the facebook group is as bad as you say it is (spoiler it's not) then why don't you hop out and make a stand that it's not acceptable instead of lurking in the shadows and stirring shark
Tim, every time you've responded to me on this forum over the last three months it has been very negatively. It seems like I've upset you and you've got this Pavlovian response to yell at me whatever I say, and I don't understand it. (And don't think I don't notice the two people who "liked" you yelling at this forum's designated free target, lol.)

But if you were on the Facebook page, did you or did you not see the thread yelling about how the YF won't let people sit in their allocated seats? Did you not think that was kind of weird?

In any case, I'm there to keep myself informed. It's unlikely I will be involved in AFC active support if the anti-Nix venom is like that (at least, not the OFFICIAL supporters group).

I don't even really know you - and I'm not sure how your default reaction is I yelled at you - you have many many posts that make me think about things, sometimes about things I have never really thought about much before.  That's a good thing by the way.

I honestly just think (like I said) that you are actually shark stirring by making such broad comments in this particular topic.  

I saw the posts - I saw posts in here of the exact opposite and found them equally "weird".  

All I'm really saying is this rivalry will have plenty of things to actually get dramatic about - I don't think I'm alone in thinking that things don't need to have gasoline poured on them just yet.

EDIT - sorry yes I am in the FB group and yes I do think some of the people in there are dickheads and say some weird things.
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Maybe a few, but it's still quite an expensive trip away for most people. You can't call it a derby when it's a 7 hour drive.


On a couple of occassions, I've left Upper Hutt at 5am, driven up, been to the game and then driven back, arriving at 5am the next morning. I've also spent a couple of trips where I parked up in Huntly or Rotovegas for the night after a game. Road trips are fun. Have been happy to have several fans along for the company, chatting etc.

I loved the fever bus trip to Napier - a personal highlight in my supporting the Nix career. I enjoyed driving to New Plymouth too. If the Ring of Dirt was actually a quality stadium, I'd enjoy driving there. PN is alright, but that stock car track is the sharks. 
Sure, but the statement was games within NZ would sell out which would mean thousands of rival fans making the trip to the other side of the island rather than a couple of bus full.

Well a Nix game at Eden Park yesterday against an Australian team drew 18,000. You only need to get 8,000 more to sell out a derby at Mt Smart, that will include an actual team from Auckland. It's entirely possible I think, especially in the first few novelty seasons. Filling the ROF for a derby might be a bit tougher.
special one off event though, top teams last ever home game in Auckland with a bit of hype on the new team. Nix don't always get 18k in Auckland, despite the scarcity of their games up there. 

Well a home derby is a one off game every season. When Canberra & Auckland enter will become a 26 game H&A league.  

I'd be surprised if Mt Smart is not sold out & the ROF should be 20,000 plus. RR's suggestion of one of the games being an annual Waitangi Day fixture is a great idea. Then Auckland or Wellington Anniversary Day for the other one maybe. 

The WWC showed there is latent football fan support in NZ and yes Auckland. I always thought the posts on here of recent years saying an Auckland team would never work, Jaffas are just fairweather and dragging up the old Kingz & Knights of eons ago, were rubbish. The derbies are going to be unique sporting events in a NZ context. There has been nothing like them ever before. The buildups will be huge, the games themselves big.

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The most disturbing comment I have seen yet was in fact the NIX,s spwewy emoji at AFCs new kit.

If that is coming from their social media then there are problems. The map was pretty pathetic as well.

Have some class guys. 
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Incredibly long bow to draw comparing some dumbass invading the pitch with the invention of Air Jordans lol.
MetalLegNZ
If it was a stunt I don't mind it... it has gained quite a bit of attention and added to the flavour of the potential derby.

MJ shoes were banned by the NBA (didn't meet their criteria) but he played in them anyway with Nike paying the bill. Had they said ok - Air Jordan's wouldn't be a thing... and it all came from a "stunt" idea.

I'm loving the complaints about the APF FB page on here etc- the amount of complaining about the name to now the owners makes a lot of people on here seem petty, which makes the complaints about them, complaining about us even funnier.

Relax people, enjoy the surge in attention and popularity this new team will bring to the game and have fun with it. If we want to grow a derby, meaningfully and in a positive way, it needs to be done with a good sense of humour - not a pointy stick.
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low blow?
Nike knowingly defied long established rules as a marketing ploy... rival club gets a kid to "streak" in their jersey as a marketing ploy.

Both a simplistic in nature, but effective.

Yes AFC is not NIKE, but if they were behind the above, the innocent prank (and it is, no one was hurt - the streaker wasn't naked clearly) was a clever one.

It led 3 sports news - when was the last time football did that?
Fitzy
Incredibly long bow to draw comparing some dumbass invading the pitch with the invention of Air Jordans lol.
MetalLegNZ
If it was a stunt I don't mind it... it has gained quite a bit of attention and added to the flavour of the potential derby.

MJ shoes were banned by the NBA (didn't meet their criteria) but he played in them anyway with Nike paying the bill. Had they said ok - Air Jordan's wouldn't be a thing... and it all came from a "stunt" idea.

I'm loving the complaints about the APF FB page on here etc- the amount of complaining about the name to now the owners makes a lot of people on here seem petty, which makes the complaints about them, complaining about us even funnier.

Relax people, enjoy the surge in attention and popularity this new team will bring to the game and have fun with it. If we want to grow a derby, meaningfully and in a positive way, it needs to be done with a good sense of humour - not a pointy stick.
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The map was funny. 

And the reporting about the pitch invasion made it clear it was prearranged- the dude had an AFC shirt that was not available to the public- but then later disavowed. It’s disrespectful to the Nix and clever-trousers.

And I’m not sure who made the comment above but over 11 matches prior to Saturday the Nix had an average EP attendance of 14,000. Saturday was 18,000. 
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Newshub has received video of the pitch invader heading onto the field from a source claiming the incident was a publicity stunt by the new club, which had the green light from Eden Park. That approval would go against everything administrators have said about pitch invasion over the years.

Five minutes later, the source called back to retract their story, saying the club and the co-owners mentioned had nothing to do with it. At that point, the affair became a mystery.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/football-curious-case-of-auckland-fc-pitch-invader-during-wellington-phoenix-win-at-eden-park.html

It’s not a football story and the fact it was reported and there was not focus on Kosta or the title charge just shows their priorities even more. 
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14,000 would seem about right. At least twice crowds above 22,000 though.
Not bad for an out of city team.

And rest assured Foley Bling FC is going to spend the Nix's Auckland marketing budget from the weekend (admittedly very bare bones) at an hourly rate in the leadup to their ALM entry, let alone any derby game. The whole of Auckland will know there is a football game happening in Penrose. Also expect some big name signings (ex EPL or whatever), to draw in the Euro snobs of the 09.

That will have a big effect in Season 1, after that the team's actual performance will be of higher importance, but big marketing spends & marquees will still count.

RECENT PHOENIX ATTENDANCES AT EDEN PARK

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Just reading some of these comments...

Let's be the "classier" supporter group. No need to be spies or worry about what they are saying about the YF. We have history, experience and hopefully a championship behind us. 

Wait for the first derby and show them up with a win on and off the field! 



*Deletes folder of Auckland & Black Knight sharkposting content*  
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/football-auckland-fc-supporter-group-claims-co-owner-set-up-phoenix-pitch-invasion.html

Who knew, the way to get press coverage of the A-League wasn't about results, it was about getting a bit of drama.
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Sorry mate didn’t mean for it to come across as personal. Just don’t think the two stunts are remotely in the same league is all. If nothing else the comparison gives far too much credit to Ali Williams and the Mowbrays.
MetalLegNZ
low blow?
Nike knowingly defied long established rules as a marketing ploy... rival club gets a kid to "streak" in their jersey as a marketing ploy.

Both a simplistic in nature, but effective.

Yes AFC is not NIKE, but if they were behind the above, the innocent prank (and it is, no one was hurt - the streaker wasn't naked clearly) was a clever one.

It led 3 sports news - when was the last time football did that?
Fitzy
Incredibly long bow to draw comparing some dumbass invading the pitch with the invention of Air Jordans lol.
MetalLegNZ
If it was a stunt I don't mind it... it has gained quite a bit of attention and added to the flavour of the potential derby.

MJ shoes were banned by the NBA (didn't meet their criteria) but he played in them anyway with Nike paying the bill. Had they said ok - Air Jordan's wouldn't be a thing... and it all came from a "stunt" idea.

I'm loving the complaints about the APF FB page on here etc- the amount of complaining about the name to now the owners makes a lot of people on here seem petty, which makes the complaints about them, complaining about us even funnier.

Relax people, enjoy the surge in attention and popularity this new team will bring to the game and have fun with it. If we want to grow a derby, meaningfully and in a positive way, it needs to be done with a good sense of humour - not a pointy stick.
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/football-auckland-fc-supporter-group-claims-co-owner-set-up-phoenix-pitch-invasion.html

Who knew, the way to get press coverage of the A-League wasn't about results, it was about getting a bit of drama.

99% sure the group's a parody, they were posting a ton of bait when they first started up and they liked a few of my tweets calling them such. If they're real, I want no part of it, they sound awful
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/football-auckland-fc-supporter-group-claims-co-owner-set-up-phoenix-pitch-invasion.html

Who knew, the way to get press coverage of the A-League wasn't about results, it was about getting a bit of drama.

Dumb thing to do. But at the end of the day no one died, and the game quickly went on. 

If it was a planned 'stunt' then expect it was at least partly done in response, to the Nix's playful dig at extending Greater Wellington's boundary north. Personally I found that funny, and just good natured banter.

You want the rivalry to be genuine, with even a bit of edge on the field. Hopefully the fans all behave with some class at the games themselves. However the young idiots at the VUC game at the ROF shows both clubs and ground security, will need to not be naive to potential issues.


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People who come for external drama usually don’t stay for football. Look at Bill Foley at Bournemouth. Changed a popular coach for a more dynamic style of football and promised fans to trust him. And they didn’t entirely for a good while. Now look where they are. Solid supports deep in the ground to build on. It’s the football, stupid. The opposite of flash-in-the-pan event marketing. 

How much external drama based marketing, outside hiring Ali Williams, have the Blues or the Warriors done?

Loyal, long term fans will already be hard working people in clubs and local leagues. The main problem is not that they don’t know about it, but that on any given game day they’ll be overcommitted. 

If there’s not plenty of drama on the field, you haven’t got a product. If the media don’t want to sell your product, but want external drama, they’re not your friends. Watch Rufer’s face- I think he was excited enough! 

My other (conspiracy) theory about the crowd number BS is AFC are worried about their crowds being compared to the Nix crowds at Eden Park and want a base of 12,000 to compare to the derby, rather than 18 or 25 thousand. I thought initially it was other sports, but this other thought also occurred. It’s probably not, but who knows. 
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This leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Add to this the increasingly nasty ramblings about the Phoenix from their supporters' Facebook forums. Auckland FC are becoming The Nasty Club.

I would have thought you would be smart enough to know in all groups there are some bad eggs and not to judge the entire group based on the small percentage of dickheads.

If the facebook group is as bad as you say it is (spoiler it's not) then why don't you hop out and make a stand that it's not acceptable instead of lurking in the shadows and stirring shark
Tim, every time you've responded to me on this forum over the last three months it has been very negatively. It seems like I've upset you and you've got this Pavlovian response to yell at me whatever I say, and I don't understand it. (And don't think I don't notice the two people who "liked" you yelling at this forum's designated free target, lol.)

But if you were on the Facebook page, did you or did you not see the thread yelling about how the YF won't let people sit in their allocated seats? Did you not think that was kind of weird?

In any case, I'm there to keep myself informed. It's unlikely I will be involved in AFC active support if the anti-Nix venom is like that (at least, not the OFFICIAL supporters group).

I don't even really know you - and I'm not sure how your default reaction is I yelled at you - you have many many posts that make me think about things, sometimes about things I have never really thought about much before.  That's a good thing by the way.

I honestly just think (like I said) that you are actually shark stirring by making such broad comments in this particular topic.  

I saw the posts - I saw posts in here of the exact opposite and found them equally "weird".  

All I'm really saying is this rivalry will have plenty of things to actually get dramatic about - I don't think I'm alone in thinking that things don't need to have gasoline poured on them just yet.

EDIT - sorry yes I am in the FB group and yes I do think some of the people in there are dickheads and say some weird things.
No real offense taken. I may have overreacted to those comments in particular due to that time I was with White Noise at NHS and some JAFA just about punched me in the face for being "sitting in their assigned seat". Obviously I haven't gotten over it.

And in response to what you said, I *did* push back quietly on the "assigned seating" thing, but if I got a bad reaction here, imagine what I'd get *there* if I hadn't been so quiet lol
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/football-auckland-fc-supporter-group-claims-co-owner-set-up-phoenix-pitch-invasion.html

Who knew, the way to get press coverage of the A-League wasn't about results, it was about getting a bit of drama.
But this is bullshark. Newshub are being played. "Terrazza d'Azzurro" are NOT the properly organised AFC fan group (they're provisionally called The Port). TA are nothing but a Twitter account which has been *claiming* to be "the active support" with no evidence that there's anything but one troll behind it. There are hardly any Italians in Auckland for one thing!

(edit: just noticed mrsmiis already pointed this out, but I should note that no-one on the AFC Facebook has heard about these people either)
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/football-auckland-fc-supporter-group-claims-co-owner-set-up-phoenix-pitch-invasion.html

Who knew, the way to get press coverage of the A-League wasn't about results, it was about getting a bit of drama.
But this is bullshark. Newshub are being played. "Terrazza d'Azzurro" are NOT the properly organised AFC fan group (they're provisionally called The Port). TA are nothing but a Twitter account which has been *claiming* to be "the active support" with no evidence that there's anything but one troll behind it. There are hardly any Italians in Auckland for one thing!

(edit: just noticed mrsmiis already pointed this out, but I should note that no-one on the AFC Facebook has heard about these people either)

Have they still not finalised a name? Giving the Fever a run on being the most shambolic supporters group if nothing else. 

Also "The Port" is terribly bland. Like the club's name. So I guess it's perfect.
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That’s always been Auckland’s problem though. It has quite a few identities, but to unite all of them we end up with bland names like the Aces that doesn’t really favour one thing or the other. 

If anything being ‘Bill Foley’s blue and black army’ really would suit a fan group! Black Knights and their rival group Cafe Dayz, with a special Rainbow aligned contingent: Camp Followers. 
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Tell me more about Cafe Dayz
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Tell me more about Cafe Dayz

Or should it be Cafe Daze? 

Probably a double espresso and some French Toast before a tap beer and heading off to pre-game? Or a decent cheese scone…

A Milers flat white extra shot at the roastery? Too many choices- Dizzy Goth and Allpress, 830, Coffee Supreme, Red Rabbit…actually I’m a decade or so out of date in Auckland…oops Atomic and Flight of course…
Coffix for the visiting Fever! 
Ozone has arrived, some folk like Kokako, there’s more Mojos than Wellington eh, Altezano, think that’s enough, sure there’s bound to be a bunch more…
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Tell me more about Cafe Dayz

Or should it be Cafe Daze? 

Probably a double espresso and some French Toast before a tap beer and heading off to pre-game? Or a decent cheese scone…

A Milers flat white extra shot at the roastery? Too many choices- Dizzy Goth and Allpress, 830, Coffee Supreme, Red Rabbit…actually I’m a decade or so out of date in Auckland…oops Atomic and Flight of course…

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Tell me more about Cafe Dayz

Or should it be Cafe Daze? 

Probably a double espresso and some French Toast before a tap beer and heading off to pre-game? Or a decent cheese scone…

A Milers flat white extra shot at the roastery? Too many choices- Dizzy Goth and Allpress, 830, Coffee Supreme, Red Rabbit…actually I’m a decade or so out of date in Auckland…oops Atomic and Flight of course…

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Steady on now old chap. This imaginary/nostalgic flight of fancy isn’t at all ready for actual members!

Besides living where I do I’ve moved on to single origin drip coffee at home from one of a multitude of local
roasteries whose ambition really doesn’t extend beyond what they can sell in their owner/operator one person operation shop. 

Flat whites are now strict luxuries few and far between. 
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Tell me more about Cafe Dayz

Or should it be Cafe Daze? 

Probably a double espresso and some French Toast before a tap beer and heading off to pre-game? Or a decent cheese scone…

A Milers flat white extra shot at the roastery? Too many choices- Dizzy Goth and Allpress, 830, Coffee Supreme, Red Rabbit…actually I’m a decade or so out of date in Auckland…oops Atomic and Flight of course…

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Steady on now old chap. This imaginary/nostalgic flight of fancy isn’t at all ready for actual members!

Besides living where I do I’ve moved on to single origin drip coffee at home from one of a multitude of local
roasteries whose ambition really doesn’t extend beyond what they can sell in their owner/operator one person operation shop. 

Flat whites are now strict luxuries few and far between. 

Do I need to swap my red moccamaster for another colour?

This sounds far more like another Wellington group 😆
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RR's suggestion of one of the games being an annual Waitangi Day fixture is a great idea. Then Auckland or Wellington Anniversary Day for the other one maybe.
Wellington Anniversary/Auckland Anniversary/Waitangi Day are all back to back weeks. So sadly you can only do one of them. 

My personal preference is Waitangi Day but logistically the Anniversary Weekends make more sense. A lot more Nix fans would be able travel to Auckland for a match during Wellington Anniversary Weekend (and vice versa) than a midweek Waitangi Day game for instance.
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I think most ofbthose blends aren’t actually from Auckland FYI
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Christo
Tell me more about Cafe Dayz

Or should it be Cafe Daze? 

Probably a double espresso and some French Toast before a tap beer and heading off to pre-game? Or a decent cheese scone…

A Milers flat white extra shot at the roastery? Too many choices- Dizzy Goth and Allpress, 830, Coffee Supreme, Red Rabbit…actually I’m a decade or so out of date in Auckland…oops Atomic and Flight of course…
Coffix for the visiting Fever! 
Ozone has arrived, some folk like Kokako, there’s more Mojos than Wellington eh, Altezano, think that’s enough, sure there’s bound to be a bunch more…
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I think most ofbthose blends aren’t actually from Auckland FYI
martinb
Christo
Tell me more about Cafe Dayz

Or should it be Cafe Daze? 

Probably a double espresso and some French Toast before a tap beer and heading off to pre-game? Or a decent cheese scone…

A Milers flat white extra shot at the roastery? Too many choices- Dizzy Goth and Allpress, 830, Coffee Supreme, Red Rabbit…actually I’m a decade or so out of date in Auckland…oops Atomic and Flight of course…
Coffix for the visiting Fever! 
Ozone has arrived, some folk like Kokako, there’s more Mojos than Wellington eh, Altezano, think that’s enough, sure there’s bound to be a bunch more…

And a lot of them aren’t owned by Kiwis any more either..!

Atomic, Allpress and Millers are the old school Auckland ones I think…
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I think most ofbthose blends aren’t actually from Auckland FYI
martinb
Christo
Tell me more about Cafe Dayz

Or should it be Cafe Daze? 

Probably a double espresso and some French Toast before a tap beer and heading off to pre-game? Or a decent cheese scone…

A Milers flat white extra shot at the roastery? Too many choices- Dizzy Goth and Allpress, 830, Coffee Supreme, Red Rabbit…actually I’m a decade or so out of date in Auckland…oops Atomic and Flight of course…
Coffix for the visiting Fever! 
Ozone has arrived, some folk like Kokako, there’s more Mojos than Wellington eh, Altezano, think that’s enough, sure there’s bound to be a bunch more…

And a lot of them aren’t owned by Kiwis any more either..!

Atomic, Allpress and Millers are the old school Auckland ones I think…
Craig Miller originated in Wngtn, trained under Tony Gibbs in the late 70's at his joint in Cable Car Lane. His first venture in Auckland was Another Roadside Attraction opp Auck Hospital. Then he got into importing & roasting and became the man we all know & love today.
Edit: not Cable Car Lane, Woodward St.
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What was the little roastery behind the Civic Theatre? Not DMK, i thought it was Millers, had a blue roaster and it was possibly the only one around Auckland at that time.
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What was the little roastery behind the Civic Theatre? Not DMK, i thought it was Millers, had a blue roaster and it was possibly the only one around Auckland at that time.

DKD. Still operating as roasters. Not Craig's but he was somehow involved with those guys I recall. Also with Dave Thomas, founder of Atomic. I played tennis with both of them.
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Tell me more about Cafe Dayz

Or should it be Cafe Daze? 

Probably a double espresso and some French Toast before a tap beer and heading off to pre-game? Or a decent cheese scone…

A Milers flat white extra shot at the roastery? Too many choices- Dizzy Goth and Allpress, 830, Coffee Supreme, Red Rabbit…actually I’m a decade or so out of date in Auckland…oops Atomic and Flight of course…
Coffix for the visiting Fever! 
Ozone has arrived, some folk like Kokako, there’s more Mojos than Wellington eh, Altezano, think that’s enough, sure there’s bound to be a bunch more…

or is it more:
Cafe Kingz or Knights and Dayz?
Starting XI
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Wouldn't it be great if the two cubs could arrange some kind of NZ Cup to play for at the start of the season like the Community Shield in England
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A tourney involving the two plus the winners of the Chatham Cup and the NZ National League (or runners up if same team wins both)
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Lawyerish
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It will be interesting to see how close the two clubs work together. I would for example foresee at some stage Bournemouth coming to Auckland for a preseason match. The question is does the nix get one as well?
Legend
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AucklandPhoenix
It will be interesting to see how close the two clubs work together. I would for example foresee at some stage Bournemouth coming to Auckland for a preseason match. The question is does the nix get one as well?

That would be very interesting, would make plenty of sense for Bournemouth to travel to NZ and/or the Scottish club that Foley is part owner of. Playing both Auckland FC and the Nix would make a great spectacle that both clubs could benefit from. I'd hope both sets of owners could see past any rivalry and make it work.
Marquee
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Both sets of owners are businessman - if it makes sense financially, I can't see either side sabotaging it.
Legend
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Foley now has investments in 4 clubs - Bournemouth, FC Lorient, Hibs & Auckland FC. So those 4 might make up any quadrangular tourney in NZ.

Though yes you would think it would be more a commercial success if it was Bournemouth, Hibs, Phoenix & Auckland. The one FC Lorient fan in Godzone would sadly miss out. Not that either the Cherries or Hibs will have that many fans in NZ, comparable to say Newcastle United or the Hammers.

Will be interesting to see how Foley's relationship is with Rob Morrison & Co. Welnix outwardly have always been supportive of a 2nd NZ team. I think there will be behind the scenes some good mutual respect, and likely a few wines drunk in mutual company, plus sharing of (some) ideas
Marquee
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It was clearly a marketing stunt and just not that clever a stunt at that. But yeah, who cares. Nothing bad happened. Try be more creative in future.

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