Auckland Pride - Make Auckland Great Again

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about 1 year ago
Pretty much game, set & Match to Auckland to be honest. I mean it would take a catastrophic fudge up for them to lose their 5 point lead.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 1 year ago
In terms of Adelaide, AFC definitely in the prime position fixture wise. With their last 10 games, Adelaide only have 4 at home verses AFC,s 5.

Plus of course AFC play them at home.

With a 5 point lead at this stage, coupled with their ability to roll out clean sheets, will be hard to beat form here.

Auckland will rise once more

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Gooner 4 Life
about 1 year ago
10 games is still a long way to go so anything can still happen. But looks like it's between AFC and Adelaide. Victory not really.
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Simon B
about 1 year ago
LG
Pretty much game, set & Match to Auckland to be honest. I mean it would take a catastrophic fudge up for them to lose their 5 point lead.

Is this some kind of copium? If Auckland draw with Phoenix and lose to Adelaide the following week, they're back even on points.
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Buffon II
about 1 year ago
It'll be interesting to see how Auckland goes next season and if they manage to keep a lot of their players, usually if an A-League team does well unless you're Sydney or Victory you lose a lot of your best players but with Auckland a lot of their players that have done well aren't that young so it'd be less likely teams from overseas would be picking them up.

Obviously they'll lose Paulsen, maybe Sakai back to Japan, could see Pijanker back to Europe and Vestraete too but there would have to be a fee involved. But they could also keep all of them minus Paulsen.
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coochiee
about 1 year ago
When is this run of away games that makes up for the 5 home games they had at the start of the season coming?
That will make things tough - although they appear pretty good home adn away.

Thye lose Paulsen next year 100%, not sure who else they have on short term deals, but you'd expect some bigger clubs might come knocking. Season 2 is always gonna be the true test of how good they can be.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 1 year ago
wilbaker
It'll be interesting to see how Auckland goes next season and if they manage to keep a lot of their players, usually if an A-League team does well unless you're Sydney or Victory you lose a lot of your best players but with Auckland a lot of their players that have done well aren't that young so it'd be less likely teams from overseas would be picking them up.

Obviously they'll lose Paulsen, maybe Sakai back to Japan, could see Pijanker back to Europe and Vestraete too but there would have to be a fee involved. But they could also keep all of them minus Paulsen.
They have their salary cap exemptions (or special dispensation or whatever it is called) for the first 3 seasons - so I'd imagine they should be able to keep a lot of the squad for at least 2 more seasons
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about 1 year ago
theprof
When is this run of away games that makes up for the 5 home games they had at the start of the season coming?
That will make things tough - although they appear pretty good home adn away.

Thye lose Paulsen next year 100%, not sure who else they have on short term deals, but you'd expect some bigger clubs might come knocking. Season 2 is always gonna be the true test of how good they can be.


They have played the same amount of home games as away games now (8 each).

Their first five games were H, H, A, A, H.

Three for me, and two for them.

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about 1 year ago
From an article in the Guardian. Maybe Chief is going to come up with an answer by next Saturday, as for sure Auckland will be pressing hard. 
Interesting to see Chris Wood mentioned at the end. Last year the Nix had tallish Zawada up front to receive, this year shortish Kosta

“Maybe passing out from the back has started to become counterproductive as opponents become increasingly adept at setting pressing traps. Roberto De Zerbi’s Brighton demonstrated how a team can trigger the opponents’ press as an attacking move, looking to generate space behind them that can be exploited, but that is a high-risk strategy.
But what is the alternative? Go long and the risk is possession is wasted – all the more so for teams without a target man – the only benefit being that the ball is at least lost a long way from goal. There is no clear halfway house, nor even much of an option for disguise: go long with players dropping to provide a short-passing option as a decoy and the danger is that possession is not merely lost, but there is no chance to set the defensive line before an opposition attack gets within shooting range.

Football is entering one of those crux periods in which it’s clear something has to change but it’s not obvious what. The paradigm is familiar: a team starts doing something, opponents react to stop them and then, for a while, a new consensus is reached before the next revolution. It feels as though what is happening now is that pressing structures are able to catch teams passing out from the back often enough that patient buildup from deep can no longer be an unthinking default.
At the very least, teams probably need to develop an exit strategy: what do they do if they find the opposition press squeezing them? Perhaps speculative balls into the channels for runners will become a counter to the counter-strategy. Or perhaps passing out from the back, while remaining the approach for the best teams, will become less common for others.
Perhaps teams will start going long more as a matter of course, although that would mean the return of big No 9s, who are perhaps already starting to make their comeback. Perhaps Chris Wood is not the throwback he had appeared but the future.”
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about 1 year ago
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theprof
When is this run of away games that makes up for the 5 home games they had at the start of the season coming?
That will make things tough - although they appear pretty good home adn away.

Thye lose Paulsen next year 100%, not sure who else they have on short term deals, but you'd expect some bigger clubs might come knocking. Season 2 is always gonna be the true test of how good they can be.


They have played the same amount of home games as away games now (8 each).

Their first five games were H, H, A, A, H.
Auckland started with four home games out of six. They've just had a stretch of four away games out of six (where they've gone 4-1-1) and they have another one to finish the season, after having three of their next four at home (making for a second run of four out of six at home, when you include either the two before or two after).
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about 1 year ago
hepatitis
From an article in the Guardian. Maybe Chief is going to come up with an answer by next Saturday, as for sure Auckland will be pressing hard. 
Interesting to see Chris Wood mentioned at the end. Last year the Nix had tallish Zawada up front to receive, this year shortish Kosta

“Maybe passing out from the back has started to become counterproductive as opponents become increasingly adept at setting pressing traps. Roberto De Zerbi’s Brighton demonstrated how a team can trigger the opponents’ press as an attacking move, looking to generate space behind them that can be exploited, but that is a high-risk strategy.
But what is the alternative? Go long and the risk is possession is wasted – all the more so for teams without a target man – the only benefit being that the ball is at least lost a long way from goal. There is no clear halfway house, nor even much of an option for disguise: go long with players dropping to provide a short-passing option as a decoy and the danger is that possession is not merely lost, but there is no chance to set the defensive line before an opposition attack gets within shooting range.

Football is entering one of those crux periods in which it’s clear something has to change but it’s not obvious what. The paradigm is familiar: a team starts doing something, opponents react to stop them and then, for a while, a new consensus is reached before the next revolution. It feels as though what is happening now is that pressing structures are able to catch teams passing out from the back often enough that patient buildup from deep can no longer be an unthinking default.
At the very least, teams probably need to develop an exit strategy: what do they do if they find the opposition press squeezing them? Perhaps speculative balls into the channels for runners will become a counter to the counter-strategy. Or perhaps passing out from the back, while remaining the approach for the best teams, will become less common for others.
Perhaps teams will start going long more as a matter of course, although that would mean the return of big No 9s, who are perhaps already starting to make their comeback. Perhaps Chris Wood is not the throwback he had appeared but the future.”
Good summary. For me, although I'm by no means an expert, what I have seen is there have been very few teams who have genuinely been successful with passing out from the back. And generally this style of play ONLY works when you have technically superior players at your disposal (Man City, Barcelona etc.) Last year we had more quality and it worked, but not this year, and it starts to show. The build up breaks down.

I suppose if Chiefy's style is to want to have the ball no matter what, but the club can't provide the type of players needed then either he's got to go and coach somewhere else where that's possible or adapt his philosophy to incorporate a more flexible approach.

Btw, those who are upset by AFC's home games early on, away from home they've beaten us, MacArthur, CCM, WU, WSW, and got draws against City and Adelaide. They got the job done so far and deserve where they are.
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coochieeFUhepatitisJasperNix+4
about 1 year ago
If Auckland fc get silverware in their first season it's going to reflect extremely poorly on the nix who have used travel conditions as an excuse for mediocrity. Its extremely disappointing the nix didn't get silverware last year NGL.
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about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
Just looked at their schedule. The poor buggers need to go back to that cyclone swept stadium of Western United again for their last game of the season. 

Hope they wrap up the minor premiers plate for their fans in the preceding game against Perth at Mt Smart. 

Auckland will rise once more

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about 1 year ago
theprof
When is this run of away games that makes up for the 5 home games they had at the start of the season coming?
That will make things tough - although they appear pretty good home adn away.

Thye lose Paulsen next year 100%, not sure who else they have on short term deals, but you'd expect some bigger clubs might come knocking. Season 2 is always gonna be the true test of how good they can be.
16 games played. 8 at home, 8 away.
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about 1 year ago
Ok, clearly they've caught up with their away games.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 1 year ago
What a difference a year makes as Auckland FC swap places with the Phoenix

For the second year running, with 10 games left to play, a New Zealand side is five points clear at the top of the A-League Men's ladder and looking likely to win their first domestic silverware. The other Kiwi outfit is struggling to keep pace with the top six, with a playoff spot looking increasingly unlikely. But if you had suggested 12 months ago that the fledgling Auckland FC would be the table-toppers and Wellington Phoenix the strugglers, most would have brushed you off as, at the very least, eccentric.

(I noticed in passing another media reference to the "Black Knights" - if they insist on pushing the BK branding we should just starting calling them Burger Kingz.)
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FUqueenofthequailWanderingSheep
about 1 year ago
Shark I somehow forgot we were 5 points clear last season 

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about 1 year ago
AucklandPhoenix
Shark I somehow forgot we were 5 points clear last season 

Personally I choose to repress the memory of us bottling our lead so maybe that's the same for you?
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number8queenofthequailSimon BWanderingSheep
about 1 year ago
Sakai extends for another season
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chopahFULGMainland FC
about 1 year ago
Quite a call clip on Insta of his signing the contract 😂

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about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
Burger Kingz ...or Burgess Kings as hes the only Twit that seems to have bought into this , ah , well follow the money  .....  !
Simon B
What a difference a year makes as Auckland FC swap places with the Phoenix

For the second year running, with 10 games left to play, a New Zealand side is five points clear at the top of the A-League Men's ladder and looking likely to win their first domestic silverware. The other Kiwi outfit is struggling to keep pace with the top six, with a playoff spot looking increasingly unlikely. But if you had suggested 12 months ago that the fledgling Auckland FC would be the table-toppers and Wellington Phoenix the strugglers, most would have brushed you off as, at the very least, eccentric.

(I noticed in passing another media reference to the "Black Knights" - if they insist on pushing the BK branding we should just starting calling them Burger Kingz.)
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Simon B
about 1 year ago
Enjoyed the trip up from Ch-Ch and sat in the Fever Zone. 
The DJ's at the start of the game were punishing as hell on a day where both sets of fans were chanting and singing.
Suggestion for the next Derby is let the fans make their noise, save the music for all the other games.
Wasn't just the DJ either, after they'd finished the Stadium 'DJ' took over until kick off.
Sport sometimes does it best to try and create an artificial atmosphere when a more organic one is there busting to be heard.

"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

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about 1 year ago
Yeah the DJs seem to believe they're why people come ....
Dougie Rydal
Enjoyed the trip up from Ch-Ch and sat in the Fever Zone. 
The DJ's at the start of the game were punishing as hell on a day where both sets of fans were chanting and singing.
Suggestion for the next Derby is let the fans make their noise, save the music for all the other games.
Wasn't just the DJ either, after they'd finished the Stadium 'DJ' took over until kick off.
Sport sometimes does it best to try and create an artificial atmosphere when a more organic one is there busting to be heard.
 
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LG
about 1 year ago
I found it interesting that in an interview on Saturday, the AFC ceo Nick Becker announced the attendance of 27,009 about an hour before gates had even opened!

So it pretty much confirms the attendances they have been posting have been tickets sold, not actual attendance. 

I mean I'm pretty sure they aren't the only ones who do it, and its seriously not a big deal, but I just thought it was funny to see them being so obvious about it 🤣
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brGooner 4 LifeLG
about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
I understand the 27,009 announcement was a gimmick

09 being of course Auckland’s ph area code 
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about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
Surely attendances are always based upon tickets sold?



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AucklandPhoenix
Surely attendances are always based upon tickets sold?


No usually it's based on actual attendance. That's why you regularly have sold out events whose attendance number is a bit lower than the full capacity. 

Also why usually it's mid 2nd half before attendance is announced as they wait for as many tickets to be scanned as possible before the number is released

Edit: The Warriors last season is a good example - every home game was a sellout but the attendance numbers vary game to game
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about 1 year ago


Mt Smart's going to have a Ferris Wheel this weekend by the looks of it
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about 1 year ago
No Foley the circus was last week, remember?
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Unchanged starting XI. You know you have a strong team when you keep Verstraete on the bench again.

Some rumour on the YF pod this week, that they spent $7M on their squad.

AFC (39 pts) win today and they go 10 pts clear of Western (32 pts), and AFC with a game in hand. Premiers Plate will be virtually theirs.

Jets (A), Mariners (H) & Roar (A) are a kindly next 3 games as well.

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LG
about 1 year ago · edited about 1 year ago · History
What a load of nonsense 





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about 1 year ago
coochiee
Unchanged starting XI. You know you have a strong team when you keep Verstraete on the bench again.

Some rumour on the YF pod this week, that they spent $7M on their squad.

AFC (39 pts) win today and they go 10 pts clear of Western (32 pts), and AFC with a game in hand. Premiers Plate will be virtually theirs.

Jets (A), Mariners (H) & Roar (A) are a kindly next 3 games as well.

I asked this already a day ago in the pod thread, but I'll ask in here seeing as it was brought up and maybe someone knows:

The $7 million squad rumour is interesting, but it doesn't mean much to me without context - does anyone know how it compares to the 'big spending' clubs like Victory and Sydney FC? And also the 'lower budget' clubs like the Mariners and us? Is 7 million considered a lot in this league or is it just within the normal range?
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The men's salary cap is I think $2.6M, with a required minimum spend of $2.25M.
Noting that the APL disbursement is a pathetic $500K.

As recently as 2018 that annual disbursement was nearly $3.6M.

I'm guessing the Nix are close to the salary cap. Likes of VUC, SFC & City above the cap but nowhere near $7M. Complete guesswork
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about 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA I have never heard a crowd so absolutely fuming about a draw before! I dunno, the pennos seemed all right, but that ref better sleep with one eye open

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Gooner 4 LifeLG
about 1 year ago
And they win again with another late goal. Surprisingly, they scored 4 goals from attacking the opposition. Not defending against them on their home ground. Could this be a solution to the Nix's tactics??
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Banzai!...AIEEE!!!
about 1 year ago
LG
And they win again with another late goal. Surprisingly, they scored 4 goals from attacking the opposition. Not defending against them on their home ground. Could this be a solution to the Nix's tactics??
Lol, you stopped watching 2 minutes too early

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about 1 year ago
Doloras
LG
And they win again with another late goal. Surprisingly, they scored 4 goals from attacking the opposition. Not defending against them on their home ground. Could this be a solution to the Nix's tactics??
Lol, you stopped watching 2 minutes too early

Yeah, so i found out. Bloody hell. What a good game to watch though. Had to do a job at work and then just found  out about the draw. Value for money for fans.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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