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West-Gone United

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12 months ago · edited 12 months ago · History
Well sounds like it's been a 12 month DD/negotiation process. 

So it either happens or they have completely fooled WU, the APL, the local Council and all the numerous consultants who no doubt got to listen in. Hopefully the cheques don't bounce
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12 months ago
2ndBest
This sounds like Ahsan Ali Syed territory. Remember how convinced Terry was that the money was coming any day now?

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Bullion
11 months ago
Ouch

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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Bullion
11 months ago
Hardly surprising they got touched up in the semi. Morale can’t be the best.

Auckland will rise once more

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11 months ago
Has to be said, I'm glad tthe Nix do not have these kinds of back office dramas to worry about. Even during the Seripisous years I think we managed to always pay the players on time.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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11 months ago
I don't think everyone was paid at the end of the Terry years, might have just been Ricki that wasn't being paid - but I remember the press asking Lloyd if he was going to pay the wages that Century City Football Group owed. 
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Ryan
I don't think everyone was paid at the end of the Terry years, might have just been Ricki that wasn't being paid - but I remember the press asking Lloyd if he was going to pay the wages that Century City Football Group owed. 

key part of that is that it was the manager not being paid a it was at the end of Terry's tenure.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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11 months ago
Here we go again.
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11 months ago
Only one 27 year old at Western & he didn't play a game. There are a number of 24 year olds but only 1 with a ton of yellow cards. Would be rather disappointing if it was him tho.
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11 months ago
Perhaps this is prejudice speaking, but I don't think it's coincidence that Western United has followed Macarthur in this

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11 months ago
Doloras
Perhaps this is prejudice speaking, but I don't think it's coincidence that Western United has followed Macarthur in this

You can "Bet" on it .
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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DolorasMainland FCOi Oi EdgecumbeSouthernix
11 months ago
RR

I know their super wasn’t paid , but this seems an extreme response to counter it 😯
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10 months ago
So WU is basically in the shark then.
Supporter of the world's best football teams: Waikato..., Kingz FC, NZ Knights, The Nix, The Argyle & of course the All Whites

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coochieeMainland FC
10 months ago
You really have to wonder about those in charge of the APL. Its not as if those guys dodgy background was a secret. There was plenty of stuff posted before they were given the okay. 

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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theprofWanderingSheep
10 months ago
Shambles of a club.
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10 months ago
RR

https://archive.is/j6Wxr
According to that article the PFA lodged breach notices for several players on June 20 that allows the players to void their contracts if their wages aren't paid in 14 days - so that'd be next Friday, the 4th of July. 

If payment doesn't happen, it'll be interesting to see which players become free agents - and also interesting to see where they'd end up
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BullionMo
10 months ago
Give me Ibusuki, Grimaldi & Leonard. Thanks.
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BullionHalf a PintkwlapLG+3
10 months ago
If Ishige and Nagasawa can get Ibusuki over here then all is forgiven
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9 months ago · edited 9 months ago · History
WesternUnited made an AU$11 million loss last season and have AU$55 million in debt.

To put that into perspective, when asking for Covid funding the Phoenix said their income before covid was NZ$7.6 million and their costs were NZ$8.6. Although I'd hope that Phoenix income and budget have both gone up since then, it seems like Western United is loosing more per season than the Phoenix spend. Imagine what their budget is.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/aug/02/western-uniteds-multimillion-dollar-loss-highlights-a-leagues-ongoing-struggles?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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Ryan
WesternUnited made an AU$11 million loss last season and haver AU$55 million in debt.

To put that into perspective, when asking for Covid funding the Phoenix said their income before coming was NZ$7.6 million and their costs were NZ$8.6. Although I'd hope that Phoenix income and budget have both gone up since then, it seems like Western United is loosing more per season than the Phoenix spend. Imagine what their budget is.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/aug/02/western-uniteds-multimillion-dollar-loss-highlights-a-leagues-ongoing-struggles?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

that must be driven by the development of their home ground and training facilities.
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9 months ago · edited 9 months ago · History
Ryan
WesternUnited made an AU$11 million loss last season and haver AU$55 million in debt.

To put that into perspective, when asking for Covid funding the Phoenix said their income before coming was NZ$7.6 million and their costs were NZ$8.6. Although I'd hope that Phoenix income and budget have both gone up since then, it seems like Western United is loosing more per season than the Phoenix spend. Imagine what their budget is.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/aug/02/western-uniteds-multimillion-dollar-loss-highlights-a-leagues-ongoing-struggles?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other


APL annual disbursements per club, have in that time gone from over $3M per season down to $530K. So the Nix's annual income may actually have fallen since pre Covid.

Plus since 2020 the ALW team has started up, and the Academy further expanded. I'm guessing there is more FTE at the club now than 2020. 
Luckily Rob M's Infratil have done okay the last few years.


Just as the ACT Govt has bailed out the Canberra ALW team for the time being, I wouldn't be surprised if the VIctorian Govt prop up Western United short term in need. Western Melbs is a big growth corridor and the State Govt plus Wyndham Council will really want that new 15K stadium to happen, and WU to survive as the major tenant.

The commentators in the WU verus Sydney Australia Cup game, seemed bullish WU's new ownership setup (dodgy or not) would be sorted soon. 

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9 months ago
Isn’t it all a bit more complicated however with this club, with real estate development also part of the deal?

Auckland will rise once more

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9 months ago
Ryan
WesternUnited made an AU$11 million loss last season and have AU$55 million in debt.

To put that into perspective, when asking for Covid funding the Phoenix said their income before covid was NZ$7.6 million and their costs were NZ$8.6. Although I'd hope that Phoenix income and budget have both gone up since then, it seems like Western United is loosing more per season than the Phoenix spend. Imagine what their budget is.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/aug/02/western-uniteds-multimillion-dollar-loss-highlights-a-leagues-ongoing-struggles?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other


It'd be interesting to know how long until they've paid off their training ground they built and play at? Should help financially once it's paid off.

But the story of this club goes to show just how hard it is to run a club, and try to own your own infrastructure. Nearly impossible...
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Mainland FCWanderingSheep
9 months ago
Bit confused how it's Football Australia that can boot them out, when I thought the APL now ran both ALM & ALW.

Will the VIC Govt/Wyndham Council step in to try save the club. ACT Govt has with Canberra United (ALW)?
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9 months ago
Honestly, for all the hate they've received I've actually genuinely enjoyed having them around the place.

That said, carrying $55 million dollars of debt as an A-League club is absolutely inexcusable. 

And all the other stuff that has come out of the club of late, well I wouldn't call it a snowball, I'd say it's been more of an avalanche!
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9 months ago
That club was cursed from the very start. (The curse was Marko Rudan.)

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