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2015/16 Transfer Speculation

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over 10 years ago

SurgeQld wrote:

Whitby boy wrote:

I have a great deal of confidence in our owner's business acumen and commitment to the Nix

Ummm ok... you do know who owns the Nix I presume? Their business backgrounds, and what would have happened if they didn't step up when Terry was waiting on his doorstep for a cheque from Western Gulf... that never came.

Huh? He said he has a great deal of confidence in the owners' business acumen....

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 10 years ago

Did you not know it was opposite day?

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over 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Did you not know it was opposite day?

Yes

By which I mean no, of course

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Did you not know it was opposite day?

Yes

By which I mean no, of course

Was I the only one that got the opposite day memo?... damn... year after year...
E + R + O

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over 10 years ago

I was sad when we released Kenny, and as more and more time goes by without any news I am thinking...... should we ask him back??

The artist formerly known as Homer Simpson

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over 10 years ago
Apparently tonight is the first time in 139 tests (nov 2004) that the England cricket team will not have fielded a player born in Southern Africa. #eligibility #passporttoplay

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 10 years ago
Sorry folks, wrong thread

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 10 years ago

Global Game wrote:
Sorry folks, wrong thread

LOL. drowning not waving.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 10 years ago

New signings. Piece of cake. We run a Warehouse Chance NZ. All the ASB Prem players, play off for a chance to make the Phoenix - we sell the rights of the doco (with lots of Warehouse product placement), to buy a marquee player. And finally my boy Aaron Clapham wins a place at the Phoenix - and everything is right with the world.

"Ufuk with the Club, Ufuk with the Country".

 If your girlfriend's got gloves, she's a keeper.

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over 10 years ago

Masty wrote:

Pellegrini's been sacked. Ernie Merrick's off to coach Man City.
Ricki's making a comeback, on the back of the publicity from that polarising article.

Nah, Ricki is off to coach Mexico now that they've just sacked Herrera for punching a journalist.

The new Mexican FA president was quoted as saying that ethics and behaviour are more important than winning matches.

He was impressed that Ricki didn't call on that NZ Herald journalist who defamed him the other day and attempt to deck him.

"We want to align with New Zealand. We are now looking for restraint, understatement, predictability and lack of flare in a manager."

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 10 years ago

Fruglo wrote:

I was sad when we released Kenny, and as more and more time goes by without any news I am thinking...... should we ask him back??

He was supposedly in talks with CCM but nothing has happened there. Doesn't appear to have a new club but was in the Costa Rica team that faced Canada the other day.
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over 10 years ago

Fruglo wrote:

I was sad when we released Kenny, and as more and more time goes by without any news I am thinking...... should we ask him back??

He was supposedly in talks with CCM but nothing has happened there. Doesn't appear to have a new club but was in the Costa Rica team that faced Canada the other day.

He has signed with Herediano from Costa Rica some time ago

Rosario Central, the All Whites, Waitakere United and the mighty Phoenix! speaker of engrish

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over 10 years ago

Argie96 wrote:

Fruglo wrote:

I was sad when we released Kenny, and as more and more time goes by without any news I am thinking...... should we ask him back??

He was supposedly in talks with CCM but nothing has happened there. Doesn't appear to have a new club but was in the Costa Rica team that faced Canada the other day.

He has signed with Herediano from Costa Rica some time ago

I totally missed that news.
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over 10 years ago
Ineligible? According to my count we have just 18 players in HAL team. Rules state a minimum of 20. Are we eligible to play on 11 August against CCM?
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over 10 years ago

There will be some kids from Weenix promoted. Have you accounted for them?

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over 10 years ago

No. But thought Ridenton and Rufer (being 19) were our Youth. We'll have a young team then.

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over 10 years ago

Not as young as the team has been at times in the last three weeks' pre-season games.


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 10 years ago

Son of a Don wrote:
Ineligible? According to my count we have just 18 players in HAL team. Rules state a minimum of 20. Are we eligible to play on 11 August against CCM?
Salary Cap doesn't count for the FFA Cup, so I doubt the squad size restrictions do either.
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over 10 years ago

Maybe we are waiting for the 'marquee' rule change? Rumours are that the FFA are going to allow a second international marque spot, I assume replacing the Australian one. Not that we would buy a true marquee but it would allow us to spend more on the player we want.

A-LEAGUE clubs will soon be permitted to sign two international players outside of the salary cap, with Football Federation Australia considering a major change to the marquee structure.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/a-league-clubs-set-to-be-allowed-two-foreign-marquee-players/story-fnk9a3dc-1227463919171?sv=fbb19bcf1a201fcc7923604d56b23cae

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over 10 years ago

Maybe we are waiting for the 'marquee' rule change? Rumours are that the FFA are going to allow a second international marque spot, I assume replacing the Australian one. Not that we would buy a true marquee but it would allow us to spend more on the player we want.

A-LEAGUE clubs will soon be permitted to sign two international players outside of the salary cap, with Football Federation Australia considering a major change to the marquee structure.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/a-league-clubs-set-to-be-allowed-two-foreign-marquee-players/story-fnk9a3dc-1227463919171?sv=fbb19bcf1a201fcc7923604d56b23cae

This could seriously f#*k us over. Or at least give a huge competitive advantage to sides like the Melbournes, Sydney.

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over 10 years ago

Should just ditch the cap and be done with it.

A fan is a fan.

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over 10 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

Maybe we are waiting for the 'marquee' rule change? Rumours are that the FFA are going to allow a second international marque spot, I assume replacing the Australian one. Not that we would buy a true marquee but it would allow us to spend more on the player we want.

A-LEAGUE clubs will soon be permitted to sign two international players outside of the salary cap, with Football Federation Australia considering a major change to the marquee structure.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/a-league-clubs-set-to-be-allowed-two-foreign-marquee-players/story-fnk9a3dc-1227463919171?sv=fbb19bcf1a201fcc7923604d56b23cae

This could seriously f#*k us over. Or at least give a huge competitive advantage to sides like the Melbournes, Sydney.

This was the only way to stop us to win this season ;-)

We are well managed club with no money. We get leftover players nobody else wants. We have to trust Ernie to bring out the best of the squad and off the no names signings.

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over 10 years ago

they just need to change them to being called designated players and relax the rules on who can be signed as one (make it anyone can be). 

The main advantage of a marquee isn't usually the player itself, but that it significantly raises the average wage of every other player being fitted under the cap. Giving clubs the ability to place any player as their designated player gives that advantage to all clubs rather than just those who can afford big name marquees - it effectively raises the salary cap, while still allowing teams to sign big name players. 


Allegedly

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over 10 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

Maybe we are waiting for the 'marquee' rule change? Rumours are that the FFA are going to allow a second international marque spot, I assume replacing the Australian one. Not that we would buy a true marquee but it would allow us to spend more on the player we want.

A-LEAGUE clubs will soon be permitted to sign two international players outside of the salary cap, with Football Federation Australia considering a major change to the marquee structure.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/a-league-clubs-set-to-be-allowed-two-foreign-marquee-players/story-fnk9a3dc-1227463919171?sv=fbb19bcf1a201fcc7923604d56b23cae

This could seriously f#*k us over. Or at least give a huge competitive advantage to sides like the Melbournes, Sydney.

Very much so. I do find the last line rather interesting as well

"Interestingly, FFA is free to implement new structures as it sees fit as there is no Collective Bargaining Agreement in place. The previous one expired on June 30 and the FFA and players union remain locked in negotiations regarding a new CBA."

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over 10 years ago

Yep, that is interesting.

A fan is a fan.

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over 10 years ago

Might it also benefit NZ players in that the likes of CCM, Jets might designate a Kiwi into one of those spots rather than bringing in another big name overseas star? Accept that the big guns are unlikely to use the 2nd spot to sign a de Vries type player but those others night.

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over 10 years ago

That's pretty much what it is and how we've been using it anyway I thought?

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over 10 years ago

Zlatan saying his next club will be a big surprise. Not a not-a-striker, he's just what we need ;)

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 10 years ago

Zlatan saying his next club will be a big surprise. Not a not-a-striker, he's just what we need ;)

Bournemouth.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

no arseholes rule.

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over 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

no arseholes rule.

Not even really funny ones?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 10 years ago

Tegal wrote:

they just need to change them to being called designated players and relax the rules on who can be signed as one (make it anyone can be). 

The main advantage of a marquee isn't usually the player itself, but that it significantly raises the average wage of every other player being fitted under the cap. Giving clubs the ability to place any player as their designated player gives that advantage to all clubs rather than just those who can afford big name marquees - it effectively raises the salary cap, while still allowing teams to sign big name players. 

Isn't that exactly how it works at the moment? Eugene Galekovic was a marquee as an example. All teams can make any player in their squad a marquee. I have never heard of a marquee being denied because they weren't enough of a big name.

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Ryan54 wrote:

Tegal wrote:

they just need to change them to being called designated players and relax the rules on who can be signed as one (make it anyone can be). 

The main advantage of a marquee isn't usually the player itself, but that it significantly raises the average wage of every other player being fitted under the cap. Giving clubs the ability to place any player as their designated player gives that advantage to all clubs rather than just those who can afford big name marquees - it effectively raises the salary cap, while still allowing teams to sign big name players. 

Isn't that exactly how it works at the moment? Eugene Galekovic was a marquee as an example. All teams can make any player in their squad a marquee. I have never heard of a marquee being denied because they weren't enough of a big name.

This ^

Don't think i've heard of a case where the 'marquee' rules were actually enforced? We made McKain marquee didn't we?

a.haak

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over 10 years ago

valeo wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:

Tegal wrote:

they just need to change them to being called designated players and relax the rules on who can be signed as one (make it anyone can be). 

The main advantage of a marquee isn't usually the player itself, but that it significantly raises the average wage of every other player being fitted under the cap. Giving clubs the ability to place any player as their designated player gives that advantage to all clubs rather than just those who can afford big name marquees - it effectively raises the salary cap, while still allowing teams to sign big name players. 

Isn't that exactly how it works at the moment? Eugene Galekovic was a marquee as an example. All teams can make any player in their squad a marquee. I have never heard of a marquee being denied because they weren't enough of a big name.

This ^

Don't think i've heard of a case where the 'marquee' rules were actually enforced? We made McKain marquee didn't we?

For the Australian marquee slot, all you need is an Australian Cap. Hence McKain, Thwaite etc being accounting marquees
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over 10 years ago

valeo wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:

Tegal wrote:

they just need to change them to being called designated players and relax the rules on who can be signed as one (make it anyone can be). 

The main advantage of a marquee isn't usually the player itself, but that it significantly raises the average wage of every other player being fitted under the cap. Giving clubs the ability to place any player as their designated player gives that advantage to all clubs rather than just those who can afford big name marquees - it effectively raises the salary cap, while still allowing teams to sign big name players. 

Isn't that exactly how it works at the moment? Eugene Galekovic was a marquee as an example. All teams can make any player in their squad a marquee. I have never heard of a marquee being denied because they weren't enough of a big name.

This ^

Don't think i've heard of a case where the 'marquee' rules were actually enforced? We made McKain marquee didn't we?

For the Australian marquee slot, all you need is an Australian Cap. Hence McKain, Thwaite etc being accounting marquees

Huh, interesting. I'm guessing almost every team had a player with at least 1 Australian cap anyway? For the international marquee slot, can you sign anyone you want?

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over 10 years ago

Think the FFA have had a loose definition of a marquee. I'm just saying do away with the arbitrary restrictions on a marquee and allow teams just to designate any 2 players that they wish. 


Allegedly

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over 10 years ago

Yeah there is some sort of definition, and I think the FFA have to approve them. In the past McCain, Ifill, and Burns have all rumored to be marquees. We are probably quite fortunate in that half our team have international experience so most could theoretically qualify for marquee status.

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over 10 years ago

Pretty sure Domey confirmed that Burns was our Aussie marquee last season.

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over 10 years ago

Sackofspuds wrote:

Pretty sure Domey confirmed that Burns was our Aussie marquee last season.

He said he was a marquee player. A marquee player can just mean a star player and doesn't necessarily mean he was an offical marquee. If he was officially our marquee it seems strange that he wasn't marketed at such.

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