There is no point to re- signing Lia just because he has "experience".
The league has passed his level.
It will show a lack of ambition if he gets picked again
Sometimes players can surprise if you stick with them e.g. how's this for an interesting fact: Bournemouth's entire back four in their win v Villa last Sat came up with the club from League One.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
There is no point to re- signing Lia just because he has "experience".
The league has passed his level.
It will show a lack of ambition if he gets picked again
Sometimes players can surprise if you stick with them e.g. how's this for an interesting fact: Bournemouth's entire back four in their win v Villa last Sat came up with the club from League One.
Yes, but Villa are bottom and are rubbish.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
There is no point to re- signing Lia just because he has "experience".
The league has passed his level.
It will show a lack of ambition if he gets picked again
Sometimes players can surprise if you stick with them e.g. how's this for an interesting fact: Bournemouth's entire back four in their win v Villa last Sat came up with the club from League One.
Yes, but Villa are bottom and are rubbish.
Sure. But my point still stands. Four guys who 2 years ago were playing 2 divs below EPL are still together but now playing EPL and not being outclassed.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
There is no point to re- signing Lia just because he has "experience".
The league has passed his level.
It will show a lack of ambition if he gets picked again
Sometimes players can surprise if you stick with them e.g. how's this for an interesting fact: Bournemouth's entire back four in their win v Villa last Sat came up with the club from League One.
Yes, but Villa are bottom and are rubbish.
Sure. But my point still stands. Four guys who 2 years ago were playing 2 divs below EPL are still together but now playing EPL and not being outclassed.
In fact possibly makes it stronger by suggests a key point is team cohesion and continuity, though combined with confidence sure helps.
i can see us signing zach anderson after his terrible season with sydney
We need Lia to stay. Ideally in a reduced role but losing Manny and Siggy is a lot of experience and leadership out the door, both on and off the pitch. Vinniesta adds value with both and provides vital leadership support for Dura.
Such a bizarre argument. With all of that wonderful experience we have been awful 3/4 seasons. When we had the best player in the league we finished 4th. Focus on quality, improve the team, I cannot understand how resigning Lia is really being considered
Normo's coming home
We need Lia to stay. Ideally in a reduced role but losing Manny and Siggy is a lot of experience and leadership out the door, both on and off the pitch. Vinniesta adds value with both and provides vital leadership support for Dura.
Such a bizarre argument. With all of that wonderful experience we have been awful 3/4 seasons. When we had the best player in the league we finished 4th. Focus on quality, improve the team, I cannot understand how resigning Lia is really being considered
I agree and disagree - when we've done well, it's been because of the culture and experience providing a good base for players like Nathan Burns and Paul Ifill to excel. However, carrying a player simply because he provides experience doesn't make a whole lot of sense in a league where every cap dollar counts..
a.haak
SST on Monday night said there was rumours about us & the Glory chasing Zullo.
Wouldn't be suprised. Don't rate him, but not many options out there. Would that mean Doyle gets moved to CB?
a.haak
We need Lia to stay. Ideally in a reduced role but losing Manny and Siggy is a lot of experience and leadership out the door, both on and off the pitch. Vinniesta adds value with both and provides vital leadership support for Dura.
Such a bizarre argument. With all of that wonderful experience we have been awful 3/4 seasons. When we had the best player in the league we finished 4th. Focus on quality, improve the team, I cannot understand how resigning Lia is really being considered
I agree and disagree - when we've done well, it's been because of the culture and experience providing a good base for players like Nathan Burns and Paul Ifill to excel. However, carrying a player simply because he provides experience doesn't make a whole lot of sense in a league where every cap dollar counts..
So what changed in the culture between last year and this year? Or did we just lose our best player? Did we lose a lot this year because the culture was bad? Not sure that culture is as meaningful as people make it out to be.
Normo's coming home
We need Lia to stay. Ideally in a reduced role but losing Manny and Siggy is a lot of experience and leadership out the door, both on and off the pitch. Vinniesta adds value with both and provides vital leadership support for Dura.
Such a bizarre argument. With all of that wonderful experience we have been awful 3/4 seasons. When we had the best player in the league we finished 4th. Focus on quality, improve the team, I cannot understand how resigning Lia is really being considered
I agree and disagree - when we've done well, it's been because of the culture and experience providing a good base for players like Nathan Burns and Paul Ifill to excel. However, carrying a player simply because he provides experience doesn't make a whole lot of sense in a league where every cap dollar counts..
So what changed in the culture between last year and this year? Or did we just lose our best player? Did we lose a lot this year because the culture was bad? Not sure that culture is as meaningful as people make it out to be.
The players didnt know if they had jobs beyond the end of the season for the most part. Playing under that stress would surely negate both talent and culture.
Just because in nearly every American film made about a rubbish sports team there is an amazing if somewhat unbelieveable turnaround when a new owner, coach or threat of extinction is thrown in, does not mean it will always occur in real life
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
We need Lia to stay. Ideally in a reduced role but losing Manny and Siggy is a lot of experience and leadership out the door, both on and off the pitch. Vinniesta adds value with both and provides vital leadership support for Dura.
Such a bizarre argument. With all of that wonderful experience we have been awful 3/4 seasons. When we had the best player in the league we finished 4th. Focus on quality, improve the team, I cannot understand how resigning Lia is really being considered
I agree and disagree - when we've done well, it's been because of the culture and experience providing a good base for players like Nathan Burns and Paul Ifill to excel. However, carrying a player simply because he provides experience doesn't make a whole lot of sense in a league where every cap dollar counts..
So what changed in the culture between last year and this year? Or did we just lose our best player? Did we lose a lot this year because the culture was bad? Not sure that culture is as meaningful as people make it out to be.
The players didnt know if they had jobs beyond the end of the season for the most part. Playing under that stress would surely negate both talent and culture.
Just because in nearly every American film made about a rubbish sports team there is an amazing if somewhat unbelieveable turnaround when a new owner, coach or threat of extinction is thrown in, does not mean it will always occur in real life
Losing Burns was definitely a factor too, but there was evidence near the end of last season that his purple patch was over anyway. We also lost depth across the park which wasn't replaced. Sarpong was a waste of space and the injuries to Krishna and Siggy hurt us. Last year we could have had Cunningham and Boxall come in for those guys.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
We need Lia to stay. Ideally in a reduced role but losing Manny and Siggy is a lot of experience and leadership out the door, both on and off the pitch. Vinniesta adds value with both and provides vital leadership support for Dura.
Such a bizarre argument. With all of that wonderful experience we have been awful 3/4 seasons. When we had the best player in the league we finished 4th. Focus on quality, improve the team, I cannot understand how resigning Lia is really being considered
I agree and disagree - when we've done well, it's been because of the culture and experience providing a good base for players like Nathan Burns and Paul Ifill to excel. However, carrying a player simply because he provides experience doesn't make a whole lot of sense in a league where every cap dollar counts..
So what changed in the culture between last year and this year? Or did we just lose our best player? Did we lose a lot this year because the culture was bad? Not sure that culture is as meaningful as people make it out to be.
The players didnt know if they had jobs beyond the end of the season for the most part. Playing under that stress would surely negate both talent and culture.
Just because in nearly every American film made about a rubbish sports team there is an amazing if somewhat unbelieveable turnaround when a new owner, coach or threat of extinction is thrown in, does not mean it will always occur in real life
So what you're saying is that we needed Denzel Washington?
a.haak
We need Lia to stay. Ideally in a reduced role but losing Manny and Siggy is a lot of experience and leadership out the door, both on and off the pitch. Vinniesta adds value with both and provides vital leadership support for Dura.
Such a bizarre argument. With all of that wonderful experience we have been awful 3/4 seasons. When we had the best player in the league we finished 4th. Focus on quality, improve the team, I cannot understand how resigning Lia is really being considered
So if I take your posts of a period of time we need to:
Sign the best kids at the age 14/15/16 because after that age, its hard to install good habits
Now you are saying stuff experience and get in the 17/18/19 year olds.
So your overall theory is that sign a top 11 and fill the rest in with really good kids and experience is not necessary?
Sorry if thats an extreme summation but that kinda the points you have made over the last 6 months and I wonder if you really know any more (like the rest of us)
Why is resigning Lia a good idea? Because you actually do need players with experience that can do a job. That job could be as a bench man, could be as an 'in emergency' situation or a person (and I think Ali Lauititi at the Warriors is a good example) that is around the squad, a good team man, knows their place and helps young kids be better pros.
I don't advocate a team of them but considering we are losing Manny and Sigmund, whom are said to be good pros, good for the team and experienced, letting Lia go would not be a smart move. He may not be the man to make us better as a player on the park, but sometimes, the things you need in a team to make you better, are not measured on the park. Let others like McGlinchey focus on his performance and being the best McGlinchey he can be. Sign Lia as a filler and a player than can help others be better just by being there (and I refer to experience, being a good pro and a good teacher)
Grumpy old bastard alert
We need Lia to stay. Ideally in a reduced role but losing Manny and Siggy is a lot of experience and leadership out the door, both on and off the pitch. Vinniesta adds value with both and provides vital leadership support for Dura.
Such a bizarre argument. With all of that wonderful experience we have been awful 3/4 seasons. When we had the best player in the league we finished 4th. Focus on quality, improve the team, I cannot understand how resigning Lia is really being considered
I agree and disagree - when we've done well, it's been because of the culture and experience providing a good base for players like Nathan Burns and Paul Ifill to excel. However, carrying a player simply because he provides experience doesn't make a whole lot of sense in a league where every cap dollar counts..
So what changed in the culture between last year and this year? Or did we just lose our best player? Did we lose a lot this year because the culture was bad? Not sure that culture is as meaningful as people make it out to be.
The players didnt know if they had jobs beyond the end of the season for the most part. Playing under that stress would surely negate both talent and culture.
Just because in nearly every American film made about a rubbish sports team there is an amazing if somewhat unbelieveable turnaround when a new owner, coach or threat of extinction is thrown in, does not mean it will always occur in real life
Are you speaking fact or assumption that players were playing whilst stressed about next season? Regardless we played even worse after we secured the licence.
Founder
it'll be great not having the boring licence excuse next year. "the season was a write off because of the licence saga" oh ok then.
I think it was more lack of skill overall than lack of desire that did us in.
Oh, definitely - we simply weren't good enough - but the license extension business didn't help.
a.haak
I think our recruitment was awful this season, and already it looks much more impressive for next season. The fact that last season, after coming 4th, we were only able to sign Sarpong and some state league players despite having the cash from Burns, Boxall, Cunningham, Brockie/Griffiths, and Boyd freed up in the salary cap shows me that licence issue affected recruitment. Whether that was the club trying to save money or players not wanting to come here, either way it's gone now as the Finkler and Kosta signings show
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
I know he was only coming on loan which did'nt eventuate in the end but Alex Jones has scored 4 goals in the last couple of games for Bham under 21's
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
who id like to sign from the released list: (though im sure RR has info saying that they have already signed somewhere else)
Mate Dugandzic
Craig Goodwin
Bruce Kamau
Michael Zullo
Ali Abbas
plus of course the Sarpong of WSW, Piovaccari
Goodwin is the new Kruse. No. Fudgeing. Way.
Goodwin is the new Kruse. No. Fudgeing. Way.
You're kidding. He's boss.
A fan is a fan.
Whining, diving, foulding, petulant sook. He deserves a Siggy elbow.
Sorry, it'll have to be a Louis Fenton elbow now.
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Sorry, it'll have to be a Louis Fenton elbow now.
It may have to be Gulley's job.
Louie's elbow may be a bit too sensitive for any serious defensive action.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
What do people think of Cameron Watson? Not sure if he's the answer at RB but has tons of A-League experience.
What do people think of Cameron Watson? Not sure if he's the answer at RB but has tons of A-League experience.
Would he not be a bit like-for-like with Vince Lia? A bit younger, sure, but is there much else difference?
What do people think of Cameron Watson? Not sure if he's the answer at RB but has tons of A-League experience.
Would he not be a bit like-for-like with Vince Lia? A bit younger, sure, but is there much else difference?
A squaddie at best, in my honest opinion. Even so, not sure if he would be my priority.
Only 3 years younger than Lia, and an Adelaide City cast-off after 4 seasons, before he was picked up by the Jets for one season.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Phoenix's new marquee signing. Predominantly a right winger, John is also comfortable in a more central role.
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Phoenix's new marquee signing. Predominantly a right winger, John is also comfortable in a more central role.
No dickheads policy? Once held Chelsea season tickets remember!
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Phoenix's new marquee signing. Predominantly a right winger, John is also comfortable in a more central role.
No dickheads policy? Once held Chelsea season tickets remember!
Well really happy about Huawei signing for 3 years, and if this is the price, well it could be worse I suppose Kevin Muscat coaching and Kevin Rudd or Tony Abbott jumping in the frame. Would have been more impressed if he'd put that shirt on and walked into a Petone NIMBY's meeting, but very happy with Huawei and some financial security around the club! Pretty decent phones too.
Being a large Chinese company, having an important politician for a photo opportunity really seals the deal.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
In this weeks episode of the Keydashians, john signs for a new club, meanwhile Max is pondering whether or not to go to China with daddy and spend some more of his money on Asian girlsto pose with him for selfies.......
#notadefender
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
comedy gold in here.
i feel the off season has got off to a good start.
