2016/17 Transfer Speculation

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It's the gif that keeps on giving!

Don't you mean Koi Story?

Marco Rojas released from his contract!! Do we dare to dream :)

Can anyone say whether there is a possibility of this happening or no chance?

Whats he like at RB?

We would have to believe that Ernie would ask wouldn't we?

I would say that Aussie and overseas clubs have more money to throw at him than us - so he would go where he thinks he is valued.

The only glimmer of hope is that he is home sick - and remembers the balmy days of his youth on the Phoenix bench.

Hopefully Ernie has had feelers out - but - money - do we have anything left after buying Barbarouses' contract?

Make an offer, if he accepts cool and he does not use up a foreign spot. If he turns us down thats ok.

Wellington's not home for him...

I'd be surprised if he headed back to the A-League yet. I'd say he's parted ways with them by agreement to make the most out of what's left of the transfer window. If he has no joy then he might end up back here for the summer.

So he hasn't put his TV up for sale on DasTradeMe yet?

He's good enough to get a gig in a second or third tier Euro league and that's surely the goal now 

I guess another question  is what would we do with him. Our attacking mid/forwards would already be our highest paid people do you see them dropping weemac to the bench when he is on good coin and inside the cap? 

Honestly don't see where he would fit in; even Parkhouse is a winger.

Here is not Australia.......

I dont think we would want or need him.  I think he should stay in Europe - but he has never really kicked on.  I thought he may do so in the Swiss League with Thun but that didnt happen either.

whatever happens a 24 year old footballer needs professional management - especially in his position. 

I'm all for any money being spent on defenders. Would like to see a strong back four so we don't need two DM's to wet nurse our defense.

As it stands we are in for some hidings this year :(

Agreed.

Maybe not hidings but it is still a worry

would sign marco because he would make us better. But that wouldnt/shouldnt stop us from chasing our primary targets. 

But if we did, it might meaning moving someone else on. Weemac? Parkhouse?

It'd be a dick move to get rid of Parkhouse now. Although, we've seen before where NZF could make a transfer not happen.

But no. We should leave Marco. Unless he can play RB. I never thought I'd say this, but we have enough not-a-strikers.

but Rojas starts, so he immediately makes us better. Take him while he's available 

Starts ahead of who?

My guess is  we will be playing with two wide not a strikers, being Kosta and Roy at this stage. Not sure where Marco would fit in as a starter in our present system

Especially as he wouldn't be immediately better than either Kosta or Roy, it would take him awhile to get back up to speed after the last few years.

With squad size limited and a salary cap though it isn't as simple as signing any player who will improve your team. We already have Kosta and Krishna in the sort of role Marco would play and they're among our best players. On top of that, it's not entirely obvious how we fit those two plus WeeMac, Gui, Roly, and A-Rod all on the pitch at once already, let alone if we added Marco to the mix. Meanwhile we only have one specialist fullback. I'd rather we kept our hypothetical Rojas money in our wallet to entice the best possible options we can find at fullback, especially RB, rather than adding another small attacker and starting the season with a jerry-rigged back line.

Marco scores goals which is also important. Yes we most certainly need a right back and another CB.

So this.

Love the sentiment of getting Marco but bottom line is we've got Kosta in that role. Marco is not a replacement for Krishna, Finkler, McGlinchey or Roly, different players. 

I'd be happy to see Marco back in the A-League elsewhere, hopefully weakening someone else's team come AW's time!

Lets sign a good defender who will be here through the international breaks. 

marco would be a hard one, I think the benefits of having him in the team would be better tho mainly because players would be playing harder and better to try earn a starting spot in the team each week. Also i am hearing rumors he will be back to victory so that means we could do the judas chant again

In the book 'The Numbers Game: Why Everything You Know About Football Is Wrong' they found: 

"that football is a “weakest-link game” – although it’s nice to have great players in your team, it’s more important not to have rubbish players. Games are typically decided not by the Wayne Rooneys but by oafs such as Zurab Khizanishvili, a defender whose blunders in a play-off in 2011 arguably cost Reading promotion to the Premier League.

Anderson and Sally crunch some of the new data on individual players to estimate that upgrading your weakest link typically improves your team more than buying a new superstar would. Despite this, managers, being human and wanting to please fans and journalists, usually prefer the superstar."

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/06/how-sp...

So we should get more benefit upgrading our weakest positions than upgrading Roy or Kosta with Marco

My FM days died with the birth or my children... can't wait til they can self manage!

For the Phoenix and PR, they need to make loud noises that they have been talking to Marco and would love for him to come back. If he does not, they just look like the unlucky bridesmaid vs 'Nah we can't afford him'. Let Marco be the one to say no to the Phoenix vs the Phoenix saying no to him. Thats good PR.

As for playing stock, if I take JDs line that we should always look to improve then yes we should make efforts to sign him. His track record would probably mean the FFA would try to help facilitate that too to "prop up" a small market. Whether we have the cap or means necessary to afford him is a different story. Things have changed since Ricki and co were in charge as well and Ernie will be the ideal coach for him now since Ange is not coaching in HAL. His style would be ideal for his talents. I am not sure how being coached by Muscat would work for him other than they played together and Muscat is an asshole.

As to where you play him, what headache do you prefer? Having to leave out good players or trying to find enough good players to pick?
It will create an imbalance (and we don't have that issue already...) but if we did sign him, shark we would good to score some goals. Also with Marcos injury record, perhaps a graduated approach having to earn his way back in may help him vs 'here is 90 mins'.
If he picks up a 2 year deal then you would fancy that a current import would make way at the end of the year to be replaced by a defending import and the balance is a little better withing the squad.

I guess the simple question is "Are we better with Marco or better with out him?" When you answer that, then you know which way to go.

110% off to tardsville, and you know what, sweet, Kosta is better than Marco now so there is nothing to fear as long as we get more defense in place. 

I don't know if Melbourne will work out quite the same for Marco without Archie there to humbly feed him....

In a salary capped league (well salary capped for us small clubs) I guess at times you have to make choices on where you spend your money and at present Marco is probably a luxury we can not afford to have, if we are looking for another quality defensive player. The nut job to replace Manny will probably be a little cheaper.

We probably think Kosta is a more consistent performer than Marco in the A league currently. However, you would like to think that an ambitious football club would see that a player like Marco was available and find some marquee loop-hole and aim to coach him back to being awesome.

From a realistic stand point- difficult. And Wellnix are about being realistic. 

But think about the chaotic and brilliant high scoring games we might have with Krishna or Marco off the benc, with Watson etc. We would absolutely mash teams in the last 25 minutes. 

The problem being that finding good full backs that are Australian/Kiwi that are willing to sign for us is almost impossible