Alternative Wellington Stadium

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about 22 hours ago
Walsall Boy wrote:
No way is the Basin Reserve an option.  It is a cricket ground and will always be so.  We have to remember there is more than just the Nix in Wellington
Also isn't the Basin protected by heritage status. 

They also play rugby there too in winter so good luck even getting that to a table of note for discussion.
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in
about 22 hours ago
I do agree the basin is an iconic venue in Wellington. 
Such a mistake they made the cake tin a cricket oval when NZ cricket was already catered for.....

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about 22 hours ago
Ranix wrote:
I do agree the basin is an iconic venue in Wellington. 
Such a mistake they made the cake tin a cricket oval when NZ cricket was already catered for.....

 
Should have made Hnry a rectangle and built a bigger stand at the Basin like the SCG or Adelaide Oval.
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Gooner 4 Life
about 21 hours ago
observerfromuh wrote:
 Ranix wrote:
I do agree the basin is an iconic venue in Wellington. 
Such a mistake they made the cake tin a cricket oval when NZ cricket was already catered for.....

 
Should have made Hnry a rectangle and built a bigger stand at the Basin like the SCG or Adelaide Oval.
Very easy to say in hindsight, and I wish it was the case. 
However, I was around at the time, and peripherally involved. In the mid/late nineties when the Stadium was being proposed, one-day cricket was huge and drawing very big crowds and was therefore critical in making the stadium work financially (big income days, commercial partners & and ability to sell long-term memberships to help fund the stadium). A multi-use (cricket & rugby) stadium was very much the norm as well. As it truned out the early one-day matches were fizzers (lots of bad luck weather-wise) and its popularity faded.
The stadium got big crowds in it early days for rugby - full houses for Hurricanes and even the NPC team used to get 20k+, so the defficiencies on a non-rectangular stadium took a while to become clear.
Can't turn back the clock unfortunately - but it is remains the ideal site for a rectangular stadium.

I know, I know, its serious!

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about 21 hours ago · edited about 21 hours ago · History
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about 21 hours ago
exactly this, the stadium was built nearly 30 years ago! back in 1996 cricket and super rugby were going gang busters and continued to do so for a number of years. stadium was built anticipating this would continue to grow, the lack of a roof impacted the cricket and concerts, but you can thank the thorndan NIMBYS for stalling any chance that a roof would be useful as they limited the cutoff time for any event being held at the stadium.
Not sure if they have that much sway now, however. But retrofitting a roof would cost more than a rebuild.


Queenslander 3x a year.

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biWanderingSheep
about 21 hours ago
theprof wrote:
exactly this, the stadium was built nearly 30 years ago! back in 1996 cricket and super rugby were going gang busters and continued to do so for a number of years. stadium was built anticipating this would continue to grow, the lack of a roof impacted the cricket and concerts, but you can thank the thorndan NIMBYS for stalling any chance that a roof would be useful as they limited the cutoff time for any event being held at the stadium.
Not sure if they have that much sway now, however. But retrofitting a roof would cost more than a rebuild.


 
Why would the NIMBYs not want a roof? That’s madness! Done correctly it would contained a lot of the noise issues anyway. Oh this city is a series of missed opportunities due to NIMBYs , so frustrating. 

Personally, it would be ludicrous to move cricket to the stadium (it is awful for that as it is for rectangular formats). They used to play football there back in the day didn’t they? But that’s besides the point, the basin is iconic and I love watching cricket there in the summer. 
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about 21 hours ago
Good to see some healthy debate on the Basin. I'm a cricket tragic but also a realist.  Last year they had 3 days of test cricket at the Basin. Sure they have 1st class games there and some T20 stuff but the spectator numbers for those games are basically 12 people and a dashhund named Colin. 

My suggestion re the Basin was based on a relatively cheap fix to provide a stadium of 10 - 15k.  In an ideal (and affordable) world Welly has a stadium that size and leave the Tin for big events.   In an ideal world unconstrained by cost pull down the tin and rebuild a football dimensioned stadium... Just dont feel the unconstrained financial world is viable right now. 

As much as I love cricket Im a realist in that it's dying.  Kids just dont play it more.. Especially past the age of 13.  I don't know the attendance number for last year's test match but I'd wager your average Nix game draws a bigger crowd... I could be wrong. 

The Basin is a prime spot to place that size ground for games people actually go and watch. Such a plan would have to have a suitable relocation plan for cricket. 

I agree with the comments that it would have been nice if the tin had been this or that but dwelling on the past isn't going to help.  We need to explore and push ahead with plans for the future... Our chance of influencing the future is infinitely bigger than the past. 

A smaller rectangular stadium is what Welly needs...for Rugby and Football all year around. I feel if we had say a 12k stadium we would fill it for nix and canes games and it would create atmosphere.  For big games we could go the Tim.

 A wise man (with pointy ears) once said... The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. 

Live long and prosper. 
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about 20 hours ago
Bradman99 wrote:
Good to see some healthy debate on the Basin. I'm a cricket tragic but also a realist.  Last year they had 3 days of test cricket at the Basin. Sure they have 1st class games there and some T20 stuff but the spectator numbers for those games are basically 12 people and a dashhund named Colin. 

My suggestion re the Basin was based on a relatively cheap fix to provide a stadium of 10 - 15k.  In an ideal (and affordable) world Welly has a stadium that size and leave the Tin for big events.   In an ideal world unconstrained by cost pull down the tin and rebuild a football dimensioned stadium... Just dont feel the unconstrained financial world is viable right now. 

As much as I love cricket Im a realist in that it's dying.  Kids just dont play it more.. Especially past the age of 13.  I don't know the attendance number for last year's test match but I'd wager your average Nix game draws a bigger crowd... I could be wrong. 

The Basin is a prime spot to place that size ground for games people actually go and watch. Such a plan would have to have a suitable relocation plan for cricket. 

I agree with the comments that it would have been nice if the tin had been this or that but dwelling on the past isn't going to help.  We need to explore and push ahead with plans for the future... Our chance of influencing the future is infinitely bigger than the past. 

A smaller rectangular stadium is what Welly needs...for Rugby and Football all year around. I feel if we had say a 12k stadium we would fill it for nix and canes games and it would create atmosphere.  For big games we could go the Tim.

A wise man (with pointy ears) once said... The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. 

Live long and prosper. 
It's a respectable suggestion Bradman. Plus considering how long this discussion has been going for, I would bet numerous others prior have also suggested the Basin as an option.
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BrWanderingSheep
about 20 hours ago
Certainly a valid point to raise Bradman. I had heard rumours that the trust were looking to increase capacity of the basin but that might just be hearsay, for the very reason its capacity is limiting. It’s just a shame the tin is bad for pretty much every sport apart from potentially that race day next year.
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