Coaching Angst - ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Imagine the coin involved.

Very worried about this.  Time and time again he's proved that he's not up to coaching at A-League level, let alone international level.  He's the coaching equivalent of David Dodd.  I'm sorry Terry, I know you're a smart man (how else did you make your millions?) but I think a big mistake has been made here.

Paul Nevin, now that's a man we could do with in this role.

In the TV3 news link on the side of the YF page I saw the newest article is today's press conference.  Ricki pretty much confirms that he's with the nix for 3 years and the national team till the next world cup.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Ricki-Herbert-signs-for-three-more-years-with-Phoenix/tabid/317/articleID/165611/Default.aspx#yellowfever

As if the last 3 years haven't been torture enough.

Another 3 years of 9-0-1 formations...just what we need.

Hahaha, there's always one.

Trying to not win it duh... as much as you 'play to win' and whatever is communicated externally, i think internally Terry and Ricki have thus far been realistic to firstly build a competitive team, have a solid back office, and obtain that licence extension which we now have.

So now we have a stable club and can now raise expectations across the board and target winning the league as both realistic and expected.

Oh and sup Hayden
Crockett2010-07-13 20:29:45

I won't rest until we've won the Asians Champions League, and the World Club Championship. Anything less is surely a failure?

I think actually this explains why rugbyheads are so miserable all the time. Since nothing will satisfy them but AB=world champs, they have not allowed themselves to be happy since 1991. Whereas we would have been wetting ourselves with pleasure with even one WC draw instead of three.

Others say: "football encourages mediocrity". That's pretty much the same thing as "encourages a good spirit and happiness with achievable goals". If the price of excellence is misery, and excellence still isn't guaranteed even if you refuse to accept anything but perfection, then is it worth it?

Sack Ricki.
AND return the filthy FIFA lucre in protest too. Its outrageous!
Our AWs have to tough it out in a 6 star resort in SA for 5 weeks and FIFA can only offer the Nix
 US$1600 per player per day for the injury and hurt they suffered.
Sack Blatter while you're at it.

I think my Road to Damascus with Ricki came, when he I realized he recognized weaknesses in  the squad and tried to change them, (Mulligan RB for example), that we all noticed. That was certainly more noticeable the start of last season.

I still stand by my ancient first post in this thread that he has never been on an even keel with the Nix compared to other A league managers/squads, with reserve teams and uncertainty with the franchise being in doubt/fifa rubbish.

I've never had a problem with his professionalism and his ability to inspire his team and with Terry he's made an outfit far beyond what we thought could happen.

This is with some major negative stuff from the rugby DJ's and apathy from NZ people as a whole until this world cup.

I think that was part of me and Vickmiests's  decision to head up to Hamilton for the friendly. I reckon 2 seasons ago we would have got about a 1000. At that match I spoke to folk who'd been to Nix mathes and knew their football.

I think it is fantastic he is staying and fantastic that Terry is carrying on with our team as well. It's as if they want to create a legacy of NZ football.

Dear God.

Ricki coming up on saturday scoreboard

2-0 v Adelaide? Back to page 1 of this thread I go...

SACK RICKI

Ricki, time to give Tim Brown (as much as he is an excellent ambassador for football), some bench time.

we need some changes, we've got a bye next week so get our team sorted.

I on;y saw the first half, but from what I saw of that we were absolutely fantastic! I don't think Rikki needs the boot quite yet - look how much the phoenix have improved since the first season.

Though I disagree with starting Lia, Hearfield and Brown.
Those 3 aren't looking good at all this season, and I'm sick of Brown getting all sh*tty and fouling everyone.

No one will disagree with you here, but yet again we fell to bits in the second half. It's happened on at least three occasions this season away from home, not good enough.

No way we should sack Ricki!

Sack Nathan?

We need a dutch manager and total football clearly.

But seriously, hoping we'd be a bit higher in the ladder than we are now.
raynes2010-10-23 16:20:07

While the club's at it, how about signing a Director of Football who knows a good footballer when he sees one?  There's times when I think WPFC would do better by recruiting based on watching YouTube videos.

I can only think of Toto as a dud signing.

Whitby boy2010-10-23 16:49:48

G** - attitude.

Whitby boy2010-10-23 17:00:28

mulligan was a far better squad filler than johnnie "sulkyboy" chen unless your referring to his stomach size

you aren't getting Chen mixed up with G** aren't you?

Paulinho - that's right,knew there was something more to it.

Terry will not get rid of Ricki.

My dredging up this thread was more in the angst part of the title, I don't want him sacked, I want him to get some fuc**ing good advice and help to sort our team out.

Perhaps Raul Blanco could help out Ricki again, after all, he recently helped Ricki achieve some pretty decent away results.

lots of angst right now. once we so something like win 3 out of 4 (like we did at some stage last season?) we'll be back on track. i say don't worry, be happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9K4BKkLaCI

Agree that there is no way Ricki will or should be sacked but it is obvious that there are some cracks in the Nix's structure that need to be addressed.

not sure whether he was a problem off the pitch, Zinidane, but I thought Caceres did all right for us

and I don't we should abandon the potential of all of South America just yet

Toto's signing seemed to have been influenced by our need to get to rush a signing to get the squad minimum for the HAL (one of the few side-effects of our World Cup)

I wonder though whether he might come right if given a few matches

I think a very good summary there Zinadane and I agree entirely with your comments about Postecoglu. The only difference is he was a new coach who came in and shifted out Farina's deadwood. The deadwood at the Phoenix are all players that Ricki has signed. A bit diappointed about Rojas as well . . . he obviosuly isn't going to make the grade.