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almost 7 years ago · edited almost 7 years ago · History

Love Letter to Roy - moved to RoyNix

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almost 7 years ago

Callan elliot signs up for next season

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almost 7 years ago

Callan Elliot signs up for next season

One of the three youth spots along with Cacace and Singh 

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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almost 7 years ago

I liked the look of him when he came on. I thought he was very good going forward. He needs to bulk up a bit and work on his defensive duties but definitely one to watch.
Same as Ben Waine whose contract situation I'm unsure about but really hope to see more of next season.


VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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almost 7 years ago

He needs to bulk up a bit and work on his defensive duties but definitely one to watch.

That's a pretty generous assessment G...but overall, yep, he's a young kid so just has to stick through it, but he does have a lot to learn and work on on the defensive side of things especially.

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almost 7 years ago

We've got enough players for a 7 a side now! 

Good work Callan, long way to go, but good to see another Kiwi lad working in to a pro gig.

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almost 7 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

He needs to bulk up a bit and work on his defensive duties but definitely one to watch.

That's a pretty generous assessment G...but overall, yep, he's a young kid so just has to stick through it, but he does have a lot to learn and work on on the defensive side of things especially.

or the new coach might prefer him further up the field in his natural position. But yes, if at wing back he needs to get better defensively 
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

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almost 7 years ago

That's the issue wurg playing this kind of formation. You need complete full backs who a) have a massive engine and B) can both attack and defend. These players are in high demand and difficult to find. Even Williams who did really well overall vs Mel C was found out defensively a few times. We're talking total football in a way and very few players can be just as good on the offense as they are defending and have the legs to run up and down for 90+ min.


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almost 7 years ago

YoungHeart wrote:

We've got enough players for a 7 a side now! 

Good work Callan, long way to go, but good to see another Kiwi lad working in to a pro gig.

We're gonna win the league!!

Founder

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almost 7 years ago

Feverish wrote:

YoungHeart wrote:

We've got enough players for a 7 a side now! 

Good work Callan, long way to go, but good to see another Kiwi lad working in to a pro gig.

We're gonna win the league!!

Needs more Roy. 

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almost 7 years ago

Kurto, Cacace and Krishna should be in the discussion.

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almost 7 years ago

RR wrote:

Kurto, Cacace & Singh make the ESPN Team of the Year

http://www.espn.com.au/football/australian-a-league/0/blog/post/3838989/a-league-team-of-the-year

They appear to have picked it off a stats page than from watching the games tho, so take with a pinch of salt.

Reading it, they justify their selections with far more than just stats, though do use some stats to help justify, which is fair enough.

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almost 7 years ago

Golec has announced via Instagram he will be leaving.

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almost 7 years ago

Might be wishful thinking but I read "still a long way to go" as Willo having unfinished business with the Nix, and will therefore stay?

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almost 7 years ago

Might be wishful thinking but I read "still a long way to go" as Willo having unfinished business with the Nix, and will therefore stay?

Combined with fact stated by someone else, that Talay & Williams were team mates at NQ Fury - gives some hope he may stay.

At least you could assume that Ufuk has found a nice quiet room on his lunch break at Sydney FC headquarters, to place a quick call to Williams for a chat.

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almost 7 years ago

Now, Roy joins Willo with some positive vibes.

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Incredible, heartfelt message from Mandi on his Instagram: 

I’m proud of this team, proud of my teammates, proud of this club, proud of this trainer and proud of the fans. 

We fought hard from the first match when nobody believed in us but there we were showing always that we were truly fighting, traveling and spending long days away and separated from our families.
We didn’t make it to the end, but every step that we made was worthy!
You go Phoenix??, because we were “echo” a lots of times and because we brought the golden boot of the A-league with us. ?
This is ending but we leave with our heads up and with our hearts full.

Good luck to the rest of the teams and how the saying says “let’s the best win!” ?

Could never fault his passion for the sport and he genuinely loves the club. Hope he sticks around for one if we can keep this type of attitude.

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almost 7 years ago

mrsmiis wrote:

Incredible, heartfelt message from Mandi on his Instagram: 

I’m proud of this team, proud of my teammates, proud of this club, proud of this trainer and proud of the fans. 

We fought hard from the first match when nobody believed in us but there we were showing always that we were truly fighting, traveling and spending long days away and separated from our families.
We didn’t make it to the end, but every step that we made was worthy!
You go Phoenix??, because we were “echo” a lots of times and because we brought the golden boot of the A-league with us. ?
This is ending but we leave with our heads up and with our hearts full.

Good luck to the rest of the teams and how the saying says “let’s the best win!” ?

Could never fault his passion for the sport and he genuinely loves the club. Hope he sticks around for one if we can keep this type of attitude.

Oh well if nothing else, hopefully his NZ born kid turns out to be a useful footballer in 20 years time.

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almost 7 years ago

coochiee wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

Incredible, heartfelt message from Mandi on his Instagram: 

I’m proud of this team, proud of my teammates, proud of this club, proud of this trainer and proud of the fans. 

We fought hard from the first match when nobody believed in us but there we were showing always that we were truly fighting, traveling and spending long days away and separated from our families.
We didn’t make it to the end, but every step that we made was worthy!
You go Phoenix??, because we were “echo” a lots of times and because we brought the golden boot of the A-league with us. ?
This is ending but we leave with our heads up and with our hearts full.

Good luck to the rest of the teams and how the saying says “let’s the best win!” ?

Could never fault his passion for the sport and he genuinely loves the club. Hope he sticks around for one if we can keep this type of attitude.

Oh well if nothing else, hopefully his NZ born kid turns out to be a useful footballer in 20 years time.

"Children born in New Zealand on or after 1 January 2006 will acquire New Zealand citizenship by birth only if at least one parent is a New Zealand citizen or permanent resident"

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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So the rules have changed since Weemac's birth.

Do you need NZ citizenship to play for the AWs/FFs? 

I imagine the other qualifier is residency?  

But 4 months or so living in NZ (that's if Mandi & whanau return to Spain) - as an infant I'm guessing would not be enough.

Speculation to another level - working out if Mandi junior can qualify for 2039 AWs/FFs!

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almost 7 years ago

coochiee wrote:

So the rules have changed since Weemac's birth.

Do you need NZ citizenship to play for the AWs/FFs? 

I imagine the other qualifier is residency?  

But 4 months or so living in NZ (that's if Mandi & whanau return to Spain) - as an infant I'm guessing would not be enough.

Speculation to another level - working out if Mandi junior can qualify for 2039 AWs/FFs!

Yes, that is why Fitzgerald can't represent NZ atm.
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almost 7 years ago

Time to update thread title?

Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

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almost 7 years ago

RR wrote:

coochiee wrote:

So the rules have changed since Weemac's birth.

Do you need NZ citizenship to play for the AWs/FFs? 

I imagine the other qualifier is residency?  

But 4 months or so living in NZ (that's if Mandi & whanau return to Spain) - as an infant I'm guessing would not be enough.

Speculation to another level - working out if Mandi junior can qualify for 2039 AWs/FFs!

Yes, that is why Fitzgerald can't represent NZ atm.

Are you sure about that. The fact he was born here means he can play for NZ, just like Januzaj was elligble for 3 countries.....

I think for FIFA, birthright applies regardless.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Jeff Vader wrote:

RR wrote:

coochiee wrote:

So the rules have changed since Weemac's birth.

Do you need NZ citizenship to play for the AWs/FFs? 

I imagine the other qualifier is residency?  

But 4 months or so living in NZ (that's if Mandi & whanau return to Spain) - as an infant I'm guessing would not be enough.

Speculation to another level - working out if Mandi junior can qualify for 2039 AWs/FFs!

Yes, that is why Fitzgerald can't represent NZ atm.

Are you sure about that. The fact he was born here means he can play for NZ, just like Januzaj was elligble for 3 countries.....

I think for FIFA, birthright applies regardless.

Eligibility is one thing, but you also need to be able to submit a passport from the country of the national federation that you're representing, and you can't do that if you don't have the citizenship.

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almost 7 years ago

So have we taken away ius soli? What happens is you're born here to non kiwis? Can you become a kiwi at 18 I suppose? Not really relevant to Mandi's kid but important to the Nix given our large migrant population.


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So have we taken away ius soli? What happens is you're born here to non kiwis? Can you become a kiwi at 18 I suppose? Not really relevant to Mandi's kid but important to the Nix given our large migrant population.

From what I understand, the mere act of being born here to non-resident parents means that you're not automatically a citizen. Obviously that doesn't mean that you can't become a citizen through residency for example. 

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almost 7 years ago

Sounds similar to Italy where children born in the country to non citizen parents do not gain automatic citizenship but can do so once they turn 18 (Balotelli and others IIRC).
Be interesting to find out what happens here with a degree of certainty as it's going to affect the Nix and to a similar extent the AWs at some stage


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el grapadura wrote:

So have we taken away ius soli? What happens is you're born here to non kiwis? Can you become a kiwi at 18 I suppose? Not really relevant to Mandi's kid but important to the Nix given our large migrant population.

From what I understand, the mere act of being born here to non-resident parents means that you're not automatically a citizen. Obviously that doesn't mean that you can't become a citizen through residency for example. 

This is correct.  A child born here only acquires right to residency / citizenship if at least parent was a permanent resident or citizen at the time of the child's birth.  Temporary permit for a parent grants temporary permit for the child.

This was enacted in 2006 to close a loophole where children born here to people only briefly visiting NZ in last stages of pregnancy would be granted permanent residency which could still be claimed by the (now grown up) child even decades later.  The loophole to claw back hospital costs of delivery was not closed till years later, with mixed success.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 7 years ago

I think you meant citizenship in your second paragraph but assuming you did, pretty much correct


Auckland will rise once more

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almost 7 years ago

Mandi gone. He's just put a post on insta saying thanks

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almost 7 years ago

Looks like there's plenty of cap and squad space available for the new coach.  On the other hand, another busy recruitment process about to take place

Normo's coming home

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almost 7 years ago

That’s the midfield Ufuked...

The odd faux-pas aside, Mandi’s distribution was hugely underrated. Could hit some absolute peaches across the park or over the top. Plenty of time to replace him at least.

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almost 7 years ago

Every club is going through a rebuild, at least we will start at a similar time this year!

Perth will lose players overseas at the end of the season as well IMO.

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almost 7 years ago

I liked Mandi's ability to hold onto the ball under pressure. Was strong shielding and using his body to create passing opportunities. Very composed on the ball.

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almost 7 years ago

Bullion wrote:

I liked Mandi's ability to hold onto the ball under pressure. Was strong shielding and using his body to create passing opportunities. Very composed on the ball.

Yep, his greatest asset - and something not many players in the league do well. Roly was another one who did this. 

a.haak

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almost 7 years ago
Middle of the season I would have been disappointed to lose him but by the end of the season I felt Burgess/Rufer was our better midfield combo.

Without knowing what formation Talay has planned for us, freeing up the visa slot to allow him more flexibility makes more sense than retaining him.

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almost 7 years ago

RR wrote:
Middle of the season I would have been disappointed to lose him but by the end of the season I felt Burgess/Rufer was our better midfield combo.

Without knowing what formation Talay has planned for us, freeing up the visa slot to allow him more flexibility makes more sense than retaining him.

I would say Burgess is not so much "better" but a very different player from Mandi.  Younger, too.

He seems to be likely to follow Rudan, but I too would love him to stay if possible.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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