Ernie Merrick - former Phoenix manager

Neil Warnock is available.

Warnock is a messiah at getting the best out of average teams. Well, except for Leeds.

i think that's unfair re: bright especially when you don't know all the circumstances behind it. a lot of times he was probably offered one year deals/short term deals and he just wanted to seek out a better club/deal. nothing wrong with that IMO. would you rather he stayed at the same Hungarian club for 5 years. i think actually you have to admire someones determination to stay a professional footballer. i say back off

Kris Bright - 9 clubs in 7 years

Shane Smeltz/Chris Killen - 7 clubs in 7 years

i was simply highlighting two examples of players who have moved around over the years. but i mean you could argue (based on what you're saying) that chris killen should have stuck it out in the UK rather than taking the money in China? how can you expect bright to knuckle down at the club if its just a short term contract or a one year deal which is what he's been working with? makes no sense. i think you're both being rather harsh on the guy. 

We need an Aussie coach who has the contacts and personal credibility to attract a couple of above-average Aussie players in key positions, either from overseas or other A-League clubs.

This is the A-League and knowledge/understanding of the Aussie (and in our case Kiwi) player pool is paramount.

We need an Aussie coach who has the contacts and personal credibility to attract a couple of above-average Aussie players in key positions, either from overseas or other A-League clubs.

This is the A-League and knowledge/understanding of the Aussie (and in our case Kiwi) player pool is paramount.

Every single other club has got rid of their foreign coaches somehow, and have all hired Australian coaches. I don't think that is a coincidence, there must be a reason for it. 

Now I think about it, thats strangely true. You have to wonder why that is. Cultural perhaps?

Every single other club has got rid of their foreign coaches somehow, and have all hired Australian coaches. I don't think that is a coincidence, there must be a reason for it. 

Now I think about it, thats strangely true. You have to wonder why that is. Cultural perhaps?

We should see if we can hire this guy. He sounds like he knows how to turn a club around.

Every single other club has got rid of their foreign coaches somehow, and have all hired Australian coaches. I don't think that is a coincidence, there must be a reason for it. 

why is it the coaches job to arrive on day 1 with a list of signings he intends to try and make?  I mean, most will have an idea and I believe it would come up in interviews but clubs providing scouting networks - coaches can bring in their physio, assistant coach, etc, but none of them bring a scout with them.  If I was manager being interviewed by the Morgan's et al, I would be asking them who the club is targetting.

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Another question I would be asking them is which of our off-contract players they would consider re-signing and why.

Fuck knows what you're on about Frankie. I'll just answer some questions I think you might have asked.

"Termy X - as one of the most intelligent and insightful posters on the forum surely you're not saying that decent Aussie players won't want to play for a good international manager?"

No, I'm not saying that. But I am saying:

a) that an Aussie coach might do a better job of targeting Aussies who give us what we need

b) that an Aussie possibly has a better chance of attracting some of those players through personal contacts

c) that we are unlikely to be able to afford the kind of international coach whose reputation would supersede points a) and b)

And I definitely think that appointing someone like Hugo Sanchez would be a fucking train-wreck. Just not what we need at all.

"Why is it the coaches job to arrive on day 1 with a list of signings he intends to try and make?  Surely the club does the scouting?.  If I was manager being interviewed by Welnix, I would be asking them who the club is targetting"

I'm inclined to agree. However, I do think it is a damn good interview question for a candidate - who would you target and why? Get a feel for how much they understand the club's current playing stocks, the issues, and how much knowledge they have of potential Aussies who could provide remedies, because you are right that we will need to recruit Aussies in those key positions.

"Why ask the candidates which off-contract players they might re-sign? The way a number of key players fucked off for most of the season until Herbert was sacked, I would imagine that a coach of any nationality would say that they would be happy to get rid of the the majority of the squad"

Much the same answer as the previous question really. Just a good line of inquiry in an interview to find out how much research they've done. Yes, they might say "get rid of them all" or they might say "definitely keep Bertos, he would fit with my plans". Either way, it would be good to know what these prospective coaches think. Personally I hope the new coach comes in and cleans house.

"Thanks for answering my questions Termy X, you're awesome"

It's a pleasure.

Fuck knows what you're on about Frankie. I'll just answer some questions I think you might have asked.

"Termy X - as one of the most intelligent and insightful posters on the forum surely you're not saying that decent Aussie players won't want to play for a good international manager?"

No, I'm not saying that. But I am saying:

a) that an Aussie coach might do a better job of targeting Aussies who give us what we need

b) that an Aussie possibly has a better chance of attracting some of those players through personal contacts

c) that we are unlikely to be able to afford the kind of international coach whose reputation would supersede points a) and b)

And I definitely think that appointing someone like Hugo Sanchez would be a fucking train-wreck. Just not what we need at all.

"Why is it the coaches job to arrive on day 1 with a list of signings he intends to try and make?  Surely the club does the scouting?.  If I was manager being interviewed by Welnix, I would be asking them who the club is targetting"

I'm inclined to agree. However, I do think it is a damn good interview question for a candidate - who would you target and why? Get a feel for how much they understand the club's current playing stocks, the issues, and how much knowledge they have of potential Aussies who could provide remedies, because you are right that we will need to recruit Aussies in those key positions.

"Why ask the candidates which off-contract players they might re-sign? The way a number of key players fucked off for most of the season until Herbert was sacked, I would imagine that a coach of any nationality would say that they would be happy to get rid of the the majority of the squad"

Much the same answer as the previous question really. Just a good line of inquiry in an interview to find out how much research they've done. Yes, they might say "get rid of them all" or they might say "definitely keep Bertos, he would fit with my plans". Either way, it would be good to know what these prospective coaches think. Personally I hope the new coach comes in and cleans house.

"Thanks for answering my questions Termy X, you're awesome"

It's a pleasure.

If the fucking quote shizzle worked on this manky forum, some (obviously not all) of what I wrote would have made some sense. 

While someone like Hugo Sanchez would most likely be a traincrash, I think we are in no position to rule out quality coaches from other parts of the world because they do not know the Aussie market.  Player recruitment is one part of management role, but I am not sure how important it really is for us - in a salary capped league the theory is that every squad should be (realitively) even in terms of ability, experience, etc.  Reality shows us that this is not the case, but with the peanuts we are most likely going to be offering for players I cannot see an Aussie manager being able to work a huge amount of magic when it comes to recruitment. I think that whoever we have in charge, we will end up with a squad of a pretty similar level (and Aussie manager may get us a few better local squad players, while an overseas manager may get us a better final import).  What then becomes the key thing is what the manager can get out of the squad of players, so the person who has the highest quality when it comes to tactics, motivation, coaching, etc should most definitely be considered, irrelevant of their nationality.

Look, I am not one of those people who think that European or whatever experience means that they are automatically better, but I don't think we should be ruling out people for a current lack of knowledge of the NZFC for example.