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Compromise - hand out flyers on fever Friday directing people to a chants page on our website?
I reckon part of the appeal is learning them. And the 'spontaneity' of the support.
Please no.
Compromise - hand out flyers on fever Friday directing people to a chants page on our website?
That's a good idea actually, rather than having a convoluted forum thread, we should have a static page (like the tour page) with a definitive list of the main set of chants.
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Also, we have to keep in mind that there is a 2 month gap between the first and second games at Westpac, and the first game will be missing all our All Whites. If we are going to go hard on the marketing of the Fever Zone to newbies, we should aim to do most of it for Round 8, not round 1. Will be hard to keep momentum up with a large gap.
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As much as most people dislike the idea of song books, could that all be put aside for maybe two or three games early in the season which are marketed widely (as-in, a lot more than normal) to try pull in a couple of big crowds. For these games hand out some song books and really try to include as many of the crowd in the 'YF zone experience' as possible throughout the stadium and try spread 'the fever'. After those first few games, only hand out the song books in the zone for two or so more games to try and draw in those who enjoyed the singing and chanting in the first few games. I get that some might expect the song book thing to be the norm after getting them for those few games but if you also had a bit of a run down about the YF zone experience in there and that the song books are just short term as part of an attempt to grow the zone they may get the idea.
But I think its mostly about targeting the people who get caught up in the hype of the well marketed games and trying to get them to catch the fever - zone style. There are a lot of people who already attend the games regularly who won't change where they watch from or how they like to enjoy the games.
I'd agree with this. Most people I talk to about heading down for a game get a bit nervous about not knowing the chants and looking stupid, if they could read the lyrics in a songbook, or better still go to a link on the YF site and get the tune to go with it, they'd feel a lot more welcome to join in
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Please no.
Compromise - hand out flyers on fever Friday directing people to a chants page on our website?
That's a good idea actually, rather than having a convoluted forum thread, we should have a static page (like the tour page) with a definitive list of the main set of chants.
Yep this would be great, with the tunes and maybe a couple of vids of the chants being used in the zone so people can recognise them
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I'd say there is a clear themes here:
For people to keep coming back to the zone they need to feel like they are a part of it. That means they need to feel welcome, it has to be fun but also people need to know the rituals, chants etc.
Conversely, it needs to be clear that being part of the Fever Zone means more than just standing in aisle 23 (or whatever it is now) - it's making the effort to learn the chants, it's standing for the match and supporting the team, singing for the whole match is part of it, going to the back bencher is part of it, being friendly with other guys and girls in the fever zone is part of it, going to every game is part of it. RBB are many things but they have made it really clear what being a west sydney supporter in that part of the stadium does.
I think also it needs to be clear there is no heirarchy in the zone either - everyone is responsible for making noise and everyone has their role to play
Half way through this post, I thought of RBB - and that they have been very vocal in setting expectations of being part of that group, exactly the point you make.
I think we need to tackle this in a two pronged approach.
1) Make the songs accessible, put up a dozen chants/songs - give them their own fixed thread with the lyrics and any supporting videos (RBB do this) - Maybe retire a few as well!
2) Set the agenda, whenever possible, of the expectations of being part of the zone. You know the songs, you sing them, you participate. When the press ask Smith et al what it's like to be in YF - mention the expectations. Put "mission statement" on the YF homepage
I think should be making it clear that the FZ isn't just somewhere where you can get drunk and act like a tool. To experience Yellow Fever is to be an active part of Yellow Fever
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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I'd say there is a clear themes here:
For people to keep coming back to the zone they need to feel like they are a part of it. That means they need to feel welcome, it has to be fun but also people need to know the rituals, chants etc.
Conversely, it needs to be clear that being part of the Fever Zone means more than just standing in aisle 23 (or whatever it is now) - it's making the effort to learn the chants, it's standing for the match and supporting the team, singing for the whole match is part of it, going to the back bencher is part of it, being friendly with other guys and girls in the fever zone is part of it, going to every game is part of it. RBB are many things but they have made it really clear what being a west sydney supporter in that part of the stadium does.
I think also it needs to be clear there is no heirarchy in the zone either - everyone is responsible for making noise and everyone has their role to play
Half way through this post, I thought of RBB - and that they have been very vocal in setting expectations of being part of that group, exactly the point you make.
I think we need to tackle this in a two pronged approach.
1) Make the songs accessible, put up a dozen chants/songs - give them their own fixed thread with the lyrics and any supporting videos (RBB do this) - Maybe retire a few as well!
2) Set the agenda, whenever possible, of the expectations of being part of the zone. You know the songs, you sing them, you participate. When the press ask Smith et al what it's like to be in YF - mention the expectations. Put "mission statement" on the YF homepage
I think should be making it clear that the FZ isn't just somewhere where you can get drunk and act like a tool. To experience Yellow Fever is to be an active part of Yellow Fever
Isn't this pretty much what Smithy was talking about earlier in this thread with Fever 101? A newbies guide to chants, etiquette etc but done in a lighthearted way. It's a great idea btw.
The key stuff from Fever 101 (not just the chants) could also be printed out Fanzine style and handed out in the Fever Zone for the first few home games.
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I don't know why I am doing this, but here goes.
Dressing up? Really? First of all lets ignore the obvious comparison to the 7s, and the fact that it is premedicated wackiness - this absolutely reeks of a desperate attempt to get people along to games. It does nothing to the team or the atmosphere, and will more likely take attention away from what is actually happening on the pitch. In fact, if we are going to do this we should speak to the stadium about going the whole hog and putting music on every time there is a stoppage in play so we can have a sing and a dance. Maybe when can get a bouncy castle by Aisle 23 so we can all go and play on that when we lose interest in the game.
One game a season organise some dress up "fun" if you are that way inclined as it is a side note and not the main event. Do it every week and it becomes the Yellow Fever Dress-Up Crazy Gang who happen to plan their whacky fun times around some football that happens to be on at the stadium.
All we're talking about is quietly putting the word out on the forum that one week is a themed dress up week. It's a laugh, to promote having a bit of fun. Remember fun from your youth?
Incidentally, it's your 2007 decree that song books are "uncool" that means that none of the newcomers to the Zone have any chance at all to learn how to join in. I'm not a big fan of orchestrated chanting like the RBB, but now that almost all the Day 1 Crew are gone that decree is having a real impact.
Lighten up.
And I don't think anyone has a problem with a one off dress up game - in fact, the last paragragh of what you quoted above states that I certainly don't. If that is what the simpletons want to do, let them go nuts. My arguement was against dressing up every week which had been mentioned and I happen to think is a terrible idea.
I covered how new members to the zone can join in without the need for songbooks - very simple and constant chants. If a newcomer cannot pick up the lyrics to "who are ya" then they are probably only there for the dressing up anyway. I look around the zone on the couple of occassions I have been back and I see plently of the day 1 crew still there, not that it is in any way relevant or important. You look at the Ticketek thread to see the number of foundation members who are still renewing tickets. But your earlier comments about people who used to start chants not being there anymore just means that someone else has to do it, and having songbooks is not going to encourage people to start chants.
While I am off on one that no one really cares about, we have to get over this "the chants are stale and boring". We mainly look to England for inspiration for our chanting, as that is the background for most of us, and that is what we see the most of on TV. For all the games that I have been to there, most sets of fans will really only have 5 or 6 chants that they actually do, and anything that is introduced is generally to a well worn tune (Sloop John B, anyone?). Chants that are popular are still sung every game years after the player has left, just because it is a fun chant (West Ham fans still sing about Ludo, not because he was an amazing keeper in the 90's - he was though - but because his song is fun). We don't need 1,000 imaginitive and clever songs - we need a decent number that everyone knows and everyone will join in with. Quality over quantity.
Disconcertingly, I am in complete agreement.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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As much as most people dislike the idea of song books, could that all be put aside for maybe two or three games early in the season which are marketed widely (as-in, a lot more than normal) to try pull in a couple of big crowds. For these games hand out some song books and really try to include as many of the crowd in the 'YF zone experience' as possible throughout the stadium and try spread 'the fever'. After those first few games, only hand out the song books in the zone for two or so more games to try and draw in those who enjoyed the singing and chanting in the first few games. I get that some might expect the song book thing to be the norm after getting them for those few games but if you also had a bit of a run down about the YF zone experience in there and that the song books are just short term as part of an attempt to grow the zone they may get the idea.
But I think its mostly about targeting the people who get caught up in the hype of the well marketed games and trying to get them to catch the fever - zone style. There are a lot of people who already attend the games regularly who won't change where they watch from or how they like to enjoy the games.
Just to set expectations, we won't be "marketing widely" because we are effectively broke.
Songbooks are also outside budget, although printing a few flyers might be affordable.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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I don't know why I am doing this, but here goes.
Dressing up? Really? First of all lets ignore the obvious comparison to the 7s, and the fact that it is premedicated wackiness - this absolutely reeks of a desperate attempt to get people along to games. It does nothing to the team or the atmosphere, and will more likely take attention away from what is actually happening on the pitch. In fact, if we are going to do this we should speak to the stadium about going the whole hog and putting music on every time there is a stoppage in play so we can have a sing and a dance. Maybe when can get a bouncy castle by Aisle 23 so we can all go and play on that when we lose interest in the game.
One game a season organise some dress up "fun" if you are that way inclined as it is a side note and not the main event. Do it every week and it becomes the Yellow Fever Dress-Up Crazy Gang who happen to plan their whacky fun times around some football that happens to be on at the stadium.
All we're talking about is quietly putting the word out on the forum that one week is a themed dress up week. It's a laugh, to promote having a bit of fun. Remember fun from your youth?
Incidentally, it's your 2007 decree that song books are "uncool" that means that none of the newcomers to the Zone have any chance at all to learn how to join in. I'm not a big fan of orchestrated chanting like the RBB, but now that almost all the Day 1 Crew are gone that decree is having a real impact.
Lighten up.
And I don't think anyone has a problem with a one off dress up game - in fact, the last paragragh of what you quoted above states that I certainly don't. If that is what the simpletons want to do, let them go nuts. My arguement was against dressing up every week which had been mentioned and I happen to think is a terrible idea.
I covered how new members to the zone can join in without the need for songbooks - very simple and constant chants. If a newcomer cannot pick up the lyrics to "who are ya" then they are probably only there for the dressing up anyway. I look around the zone on the couple of occassions I have been back and I see plently of the day 1 crew still there, not that it is in any way relevant or important. You look at the Ticketek thread to see the number of foundation members who are still renewing tickets. But your earlier comments about people who used to start chants not being there anymore just means that someone else has to do it, and having songbooks is not going to encourage people to start chants.
While I am off on one that no one really cares about, we have to get over this "the chants are stale and boring". We mainly look to England for inspiration for our chanting, as that is the background for most of us, and that is what we see the most of on TV. For all the games that I have been to there, most sets of fans will really only have 5 or 6 chants that they actually do, and anything that is introduced is generally to a well worn tune (Sloop John B, anyone?). Chants that are popular are still sung every game years after the player has left, just because it is a fun chant (West Ham fans still sing about Ludo, not because he was an amazing keeper in the 90's - he was though - but because his song is fun). We don't need 1,000 imaginitive and clever songs - we need a decent number that everyone knows and everyone will join in with. Quality over quantity.
Disconcertingly, I am in complete agreement.
I accept your apology
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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I don't know why I am doing this, but here goes.
Dressing up? Really? First of all lets ignore the obvious comparison to the 7s, and the fact that it is premedicated wackiness - this absolutely reeks of a desperate attempt to get people along to games. It does nothing to the team or the atmosphere, and will more likely take attention away from what is actually happening on the pitch. In fact, if we are going to do this we should speak to the stadium about going the whole hog and putting music on every time there is a stoppage in play so we can have a sing and a dance. Maybe when can get a bouncy castle by Aisle 23 so we can all go and play on that when we lose interest in the game.
One game a season organise some dress up "fun" if you are that way inclined as it is a side note and not the main event. Do it every week and it becomes the Yellow Fever Dress-Up Crazy Gang who happen to plan their whacky fun times around some football that happens to be on at the stadium.
All we're talking about is quietly putting the word out on the forum that one week is a themed dress up week. It's a laugh, to promote having a bit of fun. Remember fun from your youth?
Incidentally, it's your 2007 decree that song books are "uncool" that means that none of the newcomers to the Zone have any chance at all to learn how to join in. I'm not a big fan of orchestrated chanting like the RBB, but now that almost all the Day 1 Crew are gone that decree is having a real impact.
Lighten up.
And I don't think anyone has a problem with a one off dress up game - in fact, the last paragragh of what you quoted above states that I certainly don't. If that is what the simpletons want to do, let them go nuts. My arguement was against dressing up every week which had been mentioned and I happen to think is a terrible idea.
I covered how new members to the zone can join in without the need for songbooks - very simple and constant chants. If a newcomer cannot pick up the lyrics to "who are ya" then they are probably only there for the dressing up anyway. I look around the zone on the couple of occassions I have been back and I see plently of the day 1 crew still there, not that it is in any way relevant or important. You look at the Ticketek thread to see the number of foundation members who are still renewing tickets. But your earlier comments about people who used to start chants not being there anymore just means that someone else has to do it, and having songbooks is not going to encourage people to start chants.
While I am off on one that no one really cares about, we have to get over this "the chants are stale and boring". We mainly look to England for inspiration for our chanting, as that is the background for most of us, and that is what we see the most of on TV. For all the games that I have been to there, most sets of fans will really only have 5 or 6 chants that they actually do, and anything that is introduced is generally to a well worn tune (Sloop John B, anyone?). Chants that are popular are still sung every game years after the player has left, just because it is a fun chant (West Ham fans still sing about Ludo, not because he was an amazing keeper in the 90's - he was though - but because his song is fun). We don't need 1,000 imaginitive and clever songs - we need a decent number that everyone knows and everyone will join in with. Quality over quantity.
Disconcertingly, I am in complete agreement.
I accept your apology
Just to be clear, your first post was still a load of horse shit.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Kind of agree about the pre-match music...Not so sure I want it switched off but Carnival De Paris is 15 years old now and a little dated. Ring of Fire is ok I guess. I did actually quite like that Phoenix City song so not sure what's happened to that?
Some more decent pre-match music would be good though, as well as at half time, and even post-match (NO 'at the stadium' dirge, please!!)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Phoenix City was always played outside the stadium before kick off and also sometimes while the players were warming up.
But at rather a muted level.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Phoenix City was always played outside the stadium before kick off and also sometimes while the players were warming up.
But at rather a muted level.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Even last season? This is the one that goes "we are the Phoenix (repeat)" right? Could swear I've never heard it in about 2 years at at least!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Isn't that the Fever's song "We are the Phoenix"?
Phoenix City is Termy's fav song by the Skatelites which has the complicated lyrics "Phoenix City"
Steve-O, I think you need to see how to create education better.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Isn't that the Fever's song "We are the Phoenix"?
Phoenix City is Termy's fav song by the Skatelites which has the complicated lyrics "Phoenix City"
Steve-O, I think you need to see how to create education better.
Actually J82, although Phoenix City was certainly a key part of the Skatalites live set and is often included on Skatalites compilations it was orignally released under the name Roland Alphonso & The Soul Brothers, as noted by The Independent in Roland Alphonso's obituary:
The Skatalites recorded hundreds of instrumental tracks, mostly penned by Drummond and often released under his or other members' names (the glorious fanfare of "Phoenix City" - an Alphonso song - was thus attributed to Rolando Al and the Soul Brothers).
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/obituary-roland-alphonso-1187343.html
The Roland Alphonso version is the original and best version and the one I recommend becomes fully established as part of Yellow Fever and Wellington Phoenix matchday tradition. While it does not necessarily have the pumping beats that seem to be required of a run-out song these days I think it would be a great tradition to play it immediately before that, or possibly at the end of every game (or both).
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Thanks Termy. I thunk you definitely has created education better.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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just a few things from a long time fan who moved to wellington prior to the 2011/12 season.
I found it difficult to get into the chants and felt a song sheet would be extremely beneficial. Being A uni student that has relatively cheap printing, Im pretty happy to pay 5 bucks each week to distribute them at games.
Im not sure if it has been mention but a seperate tab at the top of the main page next to "news, forum, tour" etc would be ideal to have a place for "chants", clear and concise, and no trouble finding them.
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As much as most people dislike the idea of song books, could that all be put aside for maybe two or three games early in the season which are marketed widely (as-in, a lot more than normal) to try pull in a couple of big crowds. For these games hand out some song books and really try to include as many of the crowd in the 'YF zone experience' as possible throughout the stadium and try spread 'the fever'. After those first few games, only hand out the song books in the zone for two or so more games to try and draw in those who enjoyed the singing and chanting in the first few games. I get that some might expect the song book thing to be the norm after getting them for those few games but if you also had a bit of a run down about the YF zone experience in there and that the song books are just short term as part of an attempt to grow the zone they may get the idea.
But I think its mostly about targeting the people who get caught up in the hype of the well marketed games and trying to get them to catch the fever - zone style. There are a lot of people who already attend the games regularly who won't change where they watch from or how they like to enjoy the games.
Just to set expectations, we won't be "marketing widely" because we are effectively broke.
Songbooks are also outside budget, although printing a few flyers might be affordable.
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Think part of the problem in the zone in the last couple of seasons is that it has been fragmented and unlike the early days the so called core members have been separated. Much easier to sound unified if those people were all together rather than spread all over the zone.To late to do much about it at this this stage i would think.
As much as some people hate it, if we started the game with Ring of Fire,its the type of tune that most in the crowd would be aware of and as much as its about improving the zone its also about engaging others in the stadium as well.Sadly that would require the stadium to shut the bloody music off before the start of the game.
Maybe it could also be about growing another zone in another part of the stadium.
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Think part of the problem in the zone in the last couple of seasons is that it has been fragmented and unlike the early days the so called core members have been separated. Much easier to sound unified if those people were all together rather than spread all over the zone.To late to do much about it at this this stage i would think.
As much as some people hate it, if we started the game with Ring of Fire,its the type of tune that most in the crowd would be aware of and as much as its about improving the zone its also about engaging others in the stadium as well.Sadly that would require the stadium to shut the bloody music off before the start of the game.
Maybe it could also be about growing another zone in another part of the stadium.
I agreed with your post right up until the last sentence. Wouldn't that just cause more fragmentation in the hardcore supporters? I'm genuinely interested to hear your justification for it.
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Dont think i used the right word there patrick.What i meant was that i thought the zone worked better when the supposed hard core were not split around the zone as seem to have been in the last couple of seasons.Because i think if we are being truthful the last 2 seasons havnt been our best work.
As for another dedicated fan area,yep maybe its to early at this stage but it certainly is something that would add to the atmosphere.I just hope im around when we have such a zone on the other side of the stadium from the current zone.
While we can do as much as we can to lift the atmosphere at the end of the day its out of our hands.If the team turn the stadium into a fortress again that will make our job a bloody sight easier.
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So long as the fans didn't start doing that stupid tune, We're the north or we're the south etc that they do in Melbourne. but I think a good point has been made. Fanning out the hardcore to expand the zone may well have been a error. It's never too late to change it though.
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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So long as the fans didn't start doing that stupid tune, We're the north or we're the south etc that they do in Melbourne. but I think a good point has been made. Fanny out the hardcore to expand the zone may well have been a error. It's never too late to change it though.
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Doh, spelling error but you get what i meant. That hardcore we had in season one and two was awesome.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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I think the talk about the "Hard Core" not being as good as they were in seasons 1 & 2 is a bit of a cop out. People move on, others naturally should take their place, some start chants, some dont. We shouldn't rely on the same people to start the chants all the time, that is one reason we get the same chants over & over again.
As I have mentioned previously, anyone & everyone can start chants, it might start off with one or two people chanting, but if it is good & you keep doing it more people will join in. It might take a few games for a sizable number to be chanting it, but you've got to keep at it.
p.s If you don't like what someone is chanting, please DON'T shout them down, let them have their moment, then YOU can start a better & more amusing chant. We are all there to have a good time, if the team are not performing, that's when we need to step it up & work together.
We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix
And this is our Home
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Isn't that the Fever's song "We are the Phoenix"?
Phoenix City is Termy's fav song by the Skatelites which has the complicated lyrics "Phoenix City"
Steve-O, I think you need to see how to create education better.
Ah...all these years I've thought the "We are the Phoenix" was "Phoenix City". I now have no idea what Phoenix City is.
So, I quite liked "We are the Phoenix" and we should play that again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Isn't that the Fever's song "We are the Phoenix"?
Phoenix City is Termy's fav song by the Skatelites which has the complicated lyrics "Phoenix City"
Steve-O, I think you need to see how to create education better.
Ah...all these years I've thought the "We are the Phoenix" was "Phoenix City". I now have no idea what Phoenix City is.
So, I quite liked "We are the Phoenix" and we should play that again!
Creating some education for Steve-O
Phoenix City
When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!
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Didnt say others couldnt start chants,dont think its a cop out at all.In those seasons many of the regulars were around the same area and others seem to feed off them.Dont even pretend that some havnt got together and had a run through with some of the newer chats that have become favourites,its not as if they became favourites because only one or two people started them.
Maybe just maybe things might move faster if others were made aware a new chant was going to be tried,does seem at times that YF isnt as inclusive as they try to portray.
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So anybody who wants to start a new chant has to take out an ad in the paper before hand? We can't just try one at the spur of the moment?
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just a few things from a long time fan who moved to wellington prior to the 2011/12 season.
I found it difficult to get into the chants and felt a song sheet would be extremely beneficial. Being A uni student that has relatively cheap printing, Im pretty happy to pay 5 bucks each week to distribute them at games.
Im not sure if it has been mention but a seperate tab at the top of the main page next to "news, forum, tour" etc would be ideal to have a place for "chants", clear and concise, and no trouble finding them.
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So anybody who wants to start a new chant has to take out an ad in the paper before hand? We can't just try one at the spur of the moment?
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Phoenix City LyricsThe Skatalites
(Instrumental ska)
¡Phoenix City.. !
boguie boguie boguie boguie...
boguie boguie boguie.....
Phoenix City!
hmmmmmm, not too hard to remember those. Shouldn't take a couple of games.
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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Didnt say others couldnt start chants,dont think its a cop out at all.In those seasons many of the regulars were around the same area and others seem to feed off them. Dont even pretend that some havnt got together and had a run through with some of the newer chats that have become favourites,its not as if they became favourites because only one or two people started them.
Maybe just maybe things might move faster if others were made aware a new chant was going to be tried,does seem at times that YF isnt as inclusive as they try to portray.
Do you read the posts in the Chants thread? A lot of ideas for new chants get put in there.
Who's pretending people don't get together to run through new chants? I do know that some people do that, people also talk about new chants on here all the time, & in the pub before games.
I correspond with a certain "Australian Savant" about new chants on a regular basis (most of them are childish toilet humour & would only appeal to J82 !).
It just needs people to join in, if you don't know the words, post a message after the game in the chants thread, asking for the lyrics, so that you can learn them & sing along at the next game.
We are looking at ways to make the Fever Zone better, not looking at why you think it's not as good as it used to be.
We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix
And this is our Home
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We are looking at ways to make the Fever Zone better, not looking at why you think it's not as good as it used to be.
This x1000.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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Sorry for expressing a view point that you and others may not agree with.Maybe thats the point if we looked at why it worked better in the past it maybe could be adapted to suit todays situation.As for the the chants thread are you serious,how would you have any idea as to what is about to be used from looking at that.
There is a big difference from people picking up a single line chant and learning the words to a song.Was being serious when i said i thought it took more than 2 games for people to pick up songs.Take this season if a new song is broken out game one then it woint be heard by the majority of people for what another 7 weeks,sadly would probably be mid season before it caught on.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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