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FFA Cup - R1 vs Adelaide | 5 Aug | Marden Sports Complex | 10pm

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over 12 years ago
terminator_x wrote:

In other news, Aussie teams still ineligible to enter Chatham Cup. RBB to stage protest. Rest of Aussie not too bothered.

You including the 'Nix in "Aussie teams"

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:

I don't feel aggrieved by this in the slightest. Can completely understand why it's an Australia-only competition.

Just feel that as that comp grows it will benefit the Australian teams and give them a competitive advantage over the 'Nix.
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over 12 years ago

I don't care about missing out - however I've always been annoyed by our circumstance.


Slightly going off topic but..

In Fifa's eyes, every club has to be eligible for the Club World Cup - but currently we are one of the only sides who can't make it there regardless of how well we do on the pitch.

We have to have a pathway to that competition, so it needs to be decided how we can get there - surely we have to be eligible for either the Oceania Champions league or the Asian Champions league.

I know its not easy -but we need a decision from Fifa


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over 12 years ago
playwithFire wrote:

In Fifa's eyes, every club has to be eligible for the Club World Cup - 


Do you have a sauce for this statwmenr

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago

Hardly a club World Cup if not every club in the workd is eligible is it?


Allegedly

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
playwithFire wrote:

I don't care about missing out - however I've always been annoyed by our circumstance.

Slightly going off topic but..

In Fifa's eyes, every club has to be eligible for the Club World Cup - but currently we are one of the only sides who can't make it there regardless of how well we do on the pitch.

We have to have a pathway to that competition, so it needs to be decided how we can get there - surely we have to be eligible for either the Oceania Champions league or the Asian Champions league.

I know its not easy -but we need a decision from Fifa

not sure the nix's plight is ever going to come across the Fifa need to fix desk.....surely it's an Asian Confed of Oceanian problem....Either we are eligible via the a-league and asian Confed due to the league we compete in, or we fit into the Oceania champs due to the location of the club/team.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
playwithFire wrote:

In Fifa's eyes, every club has to be eligible for the Club World Cup - 

Do you have a sauce for this statwmenr

Not sure I could find one in a hurry - but essentially they have always said that every international team should have the ability to qualify for the world cup. 
Similar thoughts apply for the Club World Cup I would have thought - I do remember reading it somewhere a long time ago.


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over 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

Hardly a club World Cup if not every club in the world is eligible is it?

 

only if you've already AGREED not to enter , it as a precursor to joining the A league....

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over 12 years ago
FU BLU wrote:
Tegal wrote:

Hardly a club World Cup if not every club in the world is eligible is it?

 

only if you've already AGREED not to enter , it as a precursor to joining the A league....

To quote the great TV - "zzzz"

Allegedly

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

I understand the cost aspects of some state league Aussie team coming here, but in those cases, why couldn't we just go and play them over there?  The more we're excluded from such things, the more they might think we're not needed.  IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago
Bullion wrote:
Smithy wrote:

I don't feel aggrieved by this in the slightest. Can completely understand why it's an Australia-only competition.

Just feel that as that comp grows it will benefit the Australian teams and give them a competitive advantage over the 'Nix.



Correct, more games, more income, another chance to win a trophy potentially attracting more fans to come and watch the team.  I can't fathom why some people aren't bothered about not being in it if they care about the long-term future of the club.  That's just my take.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago

this is what concerns me, everyone else in our comp gets the chance to earn more money - welnix should be demanding this chance - show off their brand more, blah blah, sure it means more games for the players - but they are barely playing 6 months at the moment so burnout can't be an issue. This has Nix being lefty in the duince corner because teacher forgot about us.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 12 years ago

I don't get the angst - FFA is the F(ederation) charged with developing and growing F(ootball) in A('straya). They have no obligation to develop the Phoenix - or NZF who were only given a spot in the A-league to appease OFC to acquiesce to their move into Asia (ie: show OFC/FIFA that there was still a professional pathway from Oceania). They have done this - that is where their responsibility to developing WPX/NZF/OFC ends. If we want to play in their NYL then that's ok too - but they aren't going to pay for it - any more than we aren't going to pay to develop Aussie youngsters (in any sport).

Ok - it isn't "fair" that their teams will get more games/revenue/media... blah, blah... sometimes life isn't - and sport even less so.

If we don't like it then either we take our toys and come home (ie: leave the A-league) or, NZF join AFC with a hope that it would mitigate many of the roadblocks that we currently face around WPX playing in another confederations competition. The likelihood of that happening was (at last count) *1.07% - a mere one percent greater than the chance of a snowball surviving in hell for more than ten seconds.

 

Not in the least bit surprised. 

 

 


*Statistically - 43.7% of most statistics are completely made up.

E + R + O

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

whilst I agree with this ^ it doesn't mean we (the club) shouldn't be pushing for inclusion. Sitting back and accepting this decision is suicide for the club long term. Or at least a real downer on our future. It maintains our status as aa second class football team being allowed to play in a comp - albeit begrudgingly.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 12 years ago
theprof wrote:

whilst I agree with this ^ it doesn't mean we (the club) shouldn't be pushing for inclusion. Sitting back and accepting this decision is suicide for the club long term. Or at least a real downer on our future. It maintains our status as aa second class football team being allowed to play in a comp - albeit begrudgingly.

Agreed - tho the reality is, under the existing structure, that's exactly what we are.

E + R + O

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over 12 years ago

The best thing we can do in the short-med term to address/highlight some of these "issues" to the football and general sporting public on both sides of the creek is to win the league.

 

Ernie - make it so!

E + R + O

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over 12 years ago

That doesn't mean we should be happy to be treated like a 2nd class club. So surely therefore you can understand the angst? 



Allegedly

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over 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

That doesn't mean we should be happy to be treated like a 2nd class club. So surely therefore you can understand the angst? 

I don't recall saying anyone should be happy. Sometimes, life is a bitch - generally, crying about does nothing... unless you're after a sympathy root?
E + R + O

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over 12 years ago
SurgeQld wrote:
Tegal wrote:

That doesn't mean we should be happy to be treated like a 2nd class club. So surely therefore you can understand the angst? 

I don't recall saying anyone should be happy. Sometimes, life is a bitch - generally, crying about does nothing... unless you're after a sympathy root?
Well...since you offered...but be gentle...

Allegedly

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over 12 years ago
SurgeQld wrote:

The best thing we can do in the short-med term to address/highlight some of these "issues" to the football and general sporting public on both sides of the creek is to win the league.

 

Ernie - make it so!


I agree with this. No point in saying "well what happens if we won".. much easier to force an argument when you're premieres and holding teh toilet seat. That's when the hard questions really have to be answered. Because then they'll be physically denying the Nix a pathway, not just hypothetically preventing it.
In saying that, i don't believe we should be treated like a second rate club either, but it's easier to change that when the results speak for themselves.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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over 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:
SurgeQld wrote:
Tegal wrote:

That doesn't mean we should be happy to be treated like a 2nd class club. So surely therefore you can understand the angst? 

I don't recall saying anyone should be happy. Sometimes, life is a bitch - generally, crying about does nothing... unless you're after a sympathy root?

Well...since you offered...but be gentle...

That's what they all say...
E + R + O

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over 12 years ago
SurgeQld wrote:
Tegal wrote:

That doesn't mean we should be happy to be treated like a 2nd class club. So surely therefore you can understand the angst? 

I don't recall saying anyone should be happy. Sometimes, life is a bitch - generally, crying about does nothing... unless you're after a sympathy root?


Yeah, no protest about anything has ever gotten anyone anywhere...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago
Steve-O wrote:
SurgeQld wrote:
Tegal wrote:

That doesn't mean we should be happy to be treated like a 2nd class club. So surely therefore you can understand the angst? 

I don't recall saying anyone should be happy. Sometimes, life is a bitch - generally, crying about does nothing... unless you're after a sympathy root?


Yeah, no protest about anything has ever gotten anyone anywhere...
Save the whales.
E + R + O

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over 12 years ago

While we're at it, what about the Chatham Cup....

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 12 years ago

always easy to demand better treatment win you're holding the trophy - Ernie come on son you know it's our turn.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 12 years ago

FFA has just confirmed the comp and says all 10 a league sides will be in it....

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over 12 years ago

Yep. Phoenix twitter confirms it too. Exciting. 


Allegedly

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over 12 years ago

Very, very surprising. Huge. Great news!


Now for the NYL team :)

a.haak

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over 12 years ago

Yes.

A fan is a fan.

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over 12 years ago




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over 12 years ago

Great news!

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over 12 years ago

Surprising but YESSS can't wait!




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over 12 years ago

This is real good, finally more games to the season 

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over 12 years ago

This is a significant result for us, if we weren't included it does mark us out as second class citizens and I'm really glad we'll be involved in cup football.  A significant behind the scenes win, well done Welnix and management

Normo's coming home

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over 12 years ago

cant believe this! so unexpected, you little beauty


nufc's gif x10

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over 12 years ago

This is going to be awesome. I guess they have followed the FA's lead on this in a way - Welsh teams competing in the English football leagues being eligable to compete for the FA cup. Good decision. Look forward to some lowly ranked state team upsets.

Fuck this stupid game

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over 12 years ago

fark yea! i hope its a better cup than the toilet seat

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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over 12 years ago
TopLeft07 wrote:

This is going to be awesome. I guess they have followed the FA's lead on this in a way - Welsh teams competing in the English football leagues being eligable to compete for the FA cup. Good decision. Look forward to some lowly ranked state team upsets.



Hardly, what about  Scottish football.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 12 years ago


Stoked by this news!

Forza Phoenix!!!

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