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if the nix travel across nz are you going to buy..

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
if the nix travel across nz are you going to buy..

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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If the nix travel across NZ for 2 games will you buy a season ticket? just interested.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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I probably will buy a season pass, but would rather not have it include a free ticket to the away (home) gmaes, I'll take a discount over a freebie co I may not be able to travel to the game.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Yeah. Just interested because some people did say they won't buy a ticket if it happens.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Yes but we spend an awful lot of money on the nix as it is, I've missed homegames but Vickmeist has not. She will deffo want to see all games in this country. So next season I can see us spending more money still.

We can afford it, but only just and "going on the road" is taking the piss a bit.


I can understand why the team  want to do it. I understand the business sense behind it. However going to see the Phoenix is about the experience and that is created by the YF. Don't take the piss out of us Wellington fans please.


The thing is Terry, you are not the only one putting in lots of dosh, it's just our income is a fragment of yours.

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Someone needs to start a facebook group to keep Wellington Phoenix games in Wellington.

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It makes perfect sense for the Phoenix to play a game a year in Christchurch when they 19,000. I don't mind it happening as long as they don't happen too often and are successful. Playing in Palmerston North is just a waste of time.
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I'll still get a season pass because a boycott wouldn't be good for the club, but I will show my displeasure. One game I can deal with, but two games is too much, especially if they are as far away as Auckland and Christchurch.

One thing that really annoys me about this is that the last thing we should be doing is trying to be a 'New Zealand club' when the AFC are applying pressure to the FFA.
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No I'm a complete t**ser who won't buy one... I will definitely buy a season pass and will be recruiting some mates to also get one for next season.CboZ2010-02-07 17:40:24
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Arsenal wrote:
Someone needs to start a facebook group to keep Wellington Phoenix games in Wellington.
 
 
 
I refuse to join because I like a game down here

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Join it !!
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ive always been really proud to have a pro team in wellington. ill still get a season ticket,but games away makes the relationship with the club feel that little more distant. itll make some people hesitant thats for sure. and as others have said,that over a longer period puts the local season ticket holders in decline.

Allegedly

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Yes. I can deal with one CHCH game, but f**k this traveling stuff. It's bad for the team, its bad for our results and its especially bad for the welly fans who have made the phoenix everything it is today. Its a big slap in the face for all the commitment shown. Plus taking games away lessens the chance of decent crowds in Welly. Not only the effect Tegal outlined, but there is no chance to build up momentum and get a big crowd coming back every second week.
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Tegal wrote:
ive always been really proud to have a pro team in wellington. ill still get a season ticket,but games away makes the relationship with the club feel that little more distant. itll make some people hesitant thats for sure. and as others have said,that over a longer period puts the local season ticket holders in decline.
 
What he said. NOT a cool move by the club if it goes that way.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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I'm sorry, but I'm an Auckland-based Nix fan and I LOVE this idea. I will even go to North Harbour to see the Nix play, and that's saying a lot. (Although Terry will make many more $$$ if he puts it on at Mt Smart or even Eden Park.)

Oh, and see you at the RoF on Friday night - I'm in town on business and of course I'm going to go see us walk through the Mariners for a short cut. :)

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don't see why not. as long as it's NOT more than 2 per season, and not in the final 4 games..

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Don't mind the CHCH game, they came out in support big time.
Palmy - not so much. Most of that crowd were from Wellington and that game just cost us points, and our record.

No more than 2. Preferably only 1.
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don't see why not. as long as it's NOT more than 2 per season, and not in the final 4 games..
 
Because points dropped earlier in the season (in part because we lost the advantage of playing at fortress RoF) don't hurt as much as points dropped at the end of the season ?
 
I know the thinking - at the end of the season you know what you need but what you need depends on how many points you got during the rest of the season.
 
3 points dropped is 3 points dropped no matter when it happens.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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That group is brilliant Simon. You are a genius.

I will buy a season ticket.. Even if I have to miss two, three, maybe four games.
Please tell me you have one of those benchwarmer memberships Sb..
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Yes.

But we shouldn't have any games outside of Wellington. Preseason is for growing the brand and that type of thing. I cannot for the life of me see why we would optionally play away from a stadium were we haven't lost in more than a year.
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Yes.But we shouldn't have any games outside of Wellington. Preseason is for growing the brand and that type of thing. I cannot for the life of me see why we would optionally play away from a stadium were we haven't lost in more than a year.


Cause no one in the history of the NZ phoenix has ever turned up in Wellington, so we lose millions of dollars every game. However a game in Auckland, with its solid football crowd history will no doubt deliver Terry a bumper crowd! So we should just shut up and stop being so selfish. chocnut2010-02-07 18:49:01
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chocnut wrote:
Yes.But we shouldn't have any games outside of Wellington. Preseason is for growing the brand and that type of thing. I cannot for the life of me see why we would optionally play away from a stadium were we haven't lost in more than a year.


Cause no one in the history of the NZ phoenix has ever turned up in Wellington, so we lose millions of dollars every game. However a game in Auckland, with its solid football crowd history will no doubt deliver Terry a bumper crowd! So we should just shut up and stop being so selfish.
And Terry said he only wants to own the Phoenix so he can subsidise his property business with the money he makes
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SiNZ wrote:
And Terry said he only wants to own the Phoenix so he can subsidise his property business with the money he makes
I always thought it was the other way around. If I were in Wellington I would be buying a season ticket. Might still and fly up.. depending on costs.
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timmymadden wrote:
SiNZ wrote:
And Terry said he only wants to own the Phoenix so he can subsidise his property business with the money he makes
I always thought it was the other way around. If I were in Wellington I would be buying a season ticket. Might still and fly up.. depending on costs.


SiNZ was being sarcastic.
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timmymadden wrote:
SiNZ wrote:
And Terry said he only wants to own the Phoenix so he can subsidise his property business with the money he makes
I always thought it was the other way around. If I were in Wellington I would be buying a season ticket. Might still and fly up.. depending on costs.
 
Do keep up. I was continuing the theme chocnut started with his posting. You know, "no-one turns up in Wellington and we lose millions every game, Auckland is a strong football market" etc.
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ForteanTimes wrote:

I can understand why the team  want to do it. I understand the business sense behind it. However going to see the Phoenix is about the experience and that is created by the YF. Don't take the piss out of us Wellington fans please.
 
I agree - I can see all the sensible arguments and I enjoyed the road trip to Christchurch - Palmy not so much - but the atmosphere wasn't the same as at the ROF.
 
Also a hell of a lot of people who have turned up every week, win, lose or draw won't be able to make those away home games and I feel that they are being let down and sold short.
 
I just wonder if the 2 home games played elsewhere will become 3. 4. 5 ......
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Before season tickets were released was it advertised that there would be 'home away' games?

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Hey SB, where is the undecided option?
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timmymadden2010-02-07 20:09:07
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auskiwi wrote:

Before season tickets were released was it advertised that there would be 'home away' games?

Yes,but i dont see your point? Im not complaining about paying for the games and not being able to attend them...its the fact theyre being played away in the first place.

Allegedly

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auskiwi wrote:

Before season tickets were released was it advertised that there would be 'home away' games?

 
Yes of course, but that's only relevant if you see the relationship between fan and club as the same as that of, say, going to the movies. If the Nix want that sort of casual support, then they're on the right track. It would be shame not to cultivate a core support who attend no matter the quality of the game or weather. There's a name for that sort of culture. It's called a football club. However, given your posture on the closed thread (whinging bitches, stfu, only the money counts), I suspect you won't understand a word of this.
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ForteanTimes wrote:
Yes but we spend an awful lot of money on the nix as it is, I've missed homegames but Vickmeist has not. She will deffo want to see all games in this country. So next season I can see us spending more money still.

We can afford it, but only just and "going on the road" is taking the piss a bit.

I can understand why the team� want to do it. I understand the business sense behind it. However going to see the Phoenix is about the experience and that is created by the YF. Don't take the piss out of us Wellington fans please.

The thing is Terry, you are not the only one putting in lots of dosh, it's just our income is a fragment of yours.


Well said FT!

Most likely will buy a season pass - depends on times being suitable for family. I totted up what we have spent over the last two seasons (and last season was only for four games). It's rather substantial.

Would consider a game somewhere else in NZ in a season but not keen on two (but would think that rotating the centres the WGTN Nix take the bootiful game to spread the love makes some sense).

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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For me the money involved in having to travel away from Welly for home games isn't the issue.

I consider myself a fan of the Nix (as opposed to a casual supporter) which means I expect the whole Nix organisation (players, coaches, management etc) to do everything in their power to win every game and therefore to win the league.

We have quietly turned the RoF into something of a fortress to which opposition teams should dread coming to. This means that to me, the management should be doing everything possible to play as many games at the RoF as possible. Playing home games away from the RoF clearly does not have the same affect.

So, to me, to deliberately take games away from the RoF contradicts what I expect from the Nix and somehow feels a little like a betrayal.

I'm sure they're looking at it for the financial return but unless Auckland were to underwrite the game and guarantee a certain level of revenue then I find it hard to believe they would make more than they would for a Welly game. And after the Beckham fiasco I can't imagine Auckland to be too keen to spend money on anything to do with football.

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Malky wrote:
I'm sure they're looking at it for the financial return but unless Auckland were to underwrite the game and guarantee a certain level of revenue then I find it hard to believe they would make more than they would for a Welly game. And after the Beckham fiasco I can't imagine Auckland to be too keen to spend money on anything to do with football.


I'm pretty sure that is how CHrischurch worked and that has to make it pretty tempting.

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we should play a home game at Skilled Park

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Of course I would renew my season pass. I'd be disappointed if we had to travel every season to go to a home game. But at the end of the day, Nix have my loyality - exploit it as you will.



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and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic 
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I'll definately renew my pass, but outright refuse to travel if these so called "away home" games eventuate.
 
Could probably afford to go as well, but absolutely refuse to put any money towards them and will be extremely pissed off if they eventuate and are included in the cost of my season pass.
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why is everyone still taking the 19k crowd in CHCH as a repeatable target?
It was the opening of the Robbie Deans stand and a hell of a lot of people went for that reason alone, plus all the complementary tickets to everyone who helped build the thing, plus the number of travelling wellingtonians?
How many casual fans from CHCH actually paid for a ticket to watch the Nix? 19k was an aberration.
It would be like expecting the crowd from the Adelaide game the night before the Galaxy match to show up each week.
Delusional.
 
Also when you take the event away from the ROF you also take the extra revenue away from Wellington as whole, everyone who works at the stadium misses out, RYOS and the Nix store misss out, the Backbencher and the Four kings miss out, even the guy with his guitar and amp on the concourse misses out. accomodation from traveling supporters etc.
 
Wellington as a whole has really gotten behind the Phoenix and taking it away now that they are doing well really does feel like a slap in the face, almost like "thanks, but we dont need you anymore"
UberGunner2010-02-08 09:25:45
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Yes, but none of those things pay Terry's bills.

If the council acknowledged that and organised a discount on stadium hire or, paid a dividend to the club for that then it's well and good. However, If someone in Christchuch says 'We'll take the risk, guarantee you this revenue and more if we beat our targets" versus the club making a loss on 8000 people here it's a common sense business decision to take the game away.

We have to remember Terry can't afford to just pay out year after year.

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