In The Zone - The End

Smithy is not lazy when it comes to attacking people. He makes sure that he uses his intellect and dialect to win.

Good podcast and I always enjoy it. It's like a bloody drug of some kind and then you talk about Law.... I can't resist such is my weakness for those discussions.

tl;dr - A player does not get an advantage from being lazy and you have to assess each offside decision in isolation from another.

Quick review: 2 parts to offside offence - You must be in an offside position AND involved in active = Offside offence. Most confusion is based around being in offside position only and is why the arm gets thrown up by the defence the instant the ball is played through. It’s when a player is in an offside position AND becomes involved in active play (interferes with play, gains an advantage from being in that position or interferes with an opponent which are all specifically defined in LOTG) at the same time is when the offence occurs.

To say that a player has an advantage by being 'lazy' or 'less than prodigious' in getting back to halfway/offside line is kinda irrelevant because he cannot legally get involved in the play until the offside line passes him putting him onside so ipso facto, how does he get an advantage? I do get the fundamental point irrespective of the laws that was made by Dale that a lazy player benefits from being beyond the offside line in the long term but then if you are not assessing each phase of play in isolation for offside, at what point do you decide when a phase of play is over? After 10 passes? 20? 30? When possession changes? Some teams consider 30 passes 1 phase and for assessing offside, you can't look at that as 1 phase as you may get a flag some 30secs after the original offence which would be just crazy. It’s an extreme point but it highlights a succinct point - you have to assess each offside instance in isolation and then it’s the next phase of play so you reassess the next one again.

If you look what you talk about on the podcast, when Boxall breaks through, Burns occupies an offside position but is not involved in active play. When he does become involved in active play, he is not in an offside position. At no point in time is he both in an offside position AND involved in active play thus, he is not offside. Granted some people view that whole event as one play/phase, but it’s not. Let’s say that the play slowed down, about 3-4 defenders catch up along with 2 other attackers but Burns still scores some 10 seconds later than he did. Do you still call the offside and go back up to halfway for the offence? You cannot reward a defence if they switch off to the lazy attacker coming back or become/are oblivious to potential threat a lazy attacker poses or choose to ignore a potential threat a lazy attacker poses. That’s the risk they take.

Since 2005.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2010/apr/13/the-question-why-is-offside-law-genius

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/12/15/offside-goal/

Fixed.

We understand the rule Kerr. We were discussing whether the rule is right...

I know. I was poorly trying to make a point (and hence used the example where I dropped you into it) that if the rule is wrong, then there would need to be a re-write of offside because other aspects are affected if you look to rule out the “seagull striker”. The reality is that there probably is not really an alternative any more than what is in place now as much as it may not please everyone.

Teams can no longer foul us just outside the box as we may now score from it. If we score from corners then what are teams supposed to do, play football?

#InTheZone 157 is out www.yellowfever.co.nz/podcasts.

Despite a lack of LUX, Wellington Phoenix FC lit up the Hutt Wreck once more with another late blitz to beat Adelaide United FC. Ahead of the Distance Derby, Neil Sherwin dials in the pod to help preview this weekend's fixture. While Anthony Hudson names his second All Whites squad for the away trip to Korea.

Nothing half about News' ass.

‪#‎InTheZone‬ 158 is out yellowfever.co.nz/podcasts.

So yeah...we're top.

Not top for first time...

Pleasing...pleasing...we go top for the first time in our history after beating the top of the table team, away, in fudgeing Perth and you guys are..."pleased"...way to keep a lid on it fellas!