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Greenacre, My Lord - Men's Team Coach

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2 days ago

You guys are just making total random assumptions about contract negation based solely on your personal opinion of the club. It is possible that our negotiations were poor. It is equally possible that a 1 year deal was very important to Eze and that is the reason he signed with us.

I will say thought that 1 or 2 year deals are extremely common in the League. Im just guessing here but I'm going to say 1 year deals are even more common among visa players.

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2 days ago

Really great to have this appointment confirmed early.
Good luck Greenie, hope you can get the team into the playoffs at the very least

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2 days ago

I'm going to throw in, the club seems to have planned a potential big reset at the end of this season.

Bill Tuiloma I think was our only signing for longer than this season that wasn't a youth player and that was mid-season. I don't remember anybody getting an extension.

Armiento, Mileusnic, James, Najjarine, Eze, Edwards; all signed for a year. Kartum replaced Ishige as a half-season loan.

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2 days ago

martinb wrote:
You’ve made this forum into talkback radio, where people state things unequivocally without any knowledge or basis and are constantly critical, which is just exhausting.

This is painfully accurate and it also seems to be the usual one or two users effectively repeating the exact same sentiment with little to no variation across far too many posts. Even if they simply halved their output of that one opinion they have to share, it'd do absolute wonders for the forum experience in general.

It's fascinating on a certain level that anybody would dedicate so much of their leisure time to single-faceted griping. How about a garnish of nuance, at least?

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2 days ago

Armiento, Mileusnic, James, Najjarine, Eze, Edwards, Josh, Kartum, Ishige can all go

Nagasawa maybe can stay for 1 more year

a.haak

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2 days ago · edited 2 days ago · History

Buffon II wrote:
1 year contracts always remind me of that scene from Moneyball.

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My vague takeover from that movie was the coaches discussing how you can tell about alot about the level of player's self confidence, by how hot his partner/wife is or not!

And yeah we have no idea what terms Eze and his agent laid on the table for the Nix. It might have been 1 year take it or leave it. But he would have had his suitors. There would other lower budget leagues, that would scout off obscure places like Iraq. Those leagues being in the Euro shop window. Sth Africa's PSL I'm guessing one example.

That's basically the essence of a Moneyball type recruiting plan. The A League ain't that unique.

Plus when Eze was signed the reaction on here was very mixed. I mean when Eze was signed the reaction on here was very mixed. He clearly overachieved on people's expectations. It's classic 20/20 hindsight to say Nix should have pushed him for a longer deal.

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2 days ago

Southernix wrote:
I'm going to throw in, the club seems to have planned a potential big reset at the end of this season.

Bill Tuiloma I think was our only signing for longer than this season that wasn't a youth player and that was mid-season. I don't remember anybody getting an extension.

Armiento, Mileusnic, James, Najjarine, Eze, Edwards; all signed for a year. Kartum replaced Ishige as a half-season loan.

Agree.

I'd also say that they planned well in advance that Greeny would come in, to replace Chiefy mid season. They needed Chris G to complete his NZ U20 commitments (finished October), and then review how Italiano was going. If the Nix had lost at Redcliffe against the Roar in January, Greeny would have come in then. They were coming off that awful 5-1 thumping from the VUC at AAMI Park, and the drums were beating. But that 3-0 win over Brisbane gave Chiefy a stay of execution for awhile.

They also partly weren't keen on introducing a new coach prior this season, as it was majorly disrupted with a large cohort missing a chunk of pre season away at the U20 WC. The last U20s game in Chile was days before the ALM kicked off in Perth.

Overall you could agrue Italiano should have been dumped sooner (or not given a 1 year extension full stop), but there were a few moving parts at play. Age group WC scheduling affects the Nix more than any other ALM club.

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2 days ago

This appointment is just an easy ,cheap ,predicable ( did they even look at another coach ?} options with no real ambitions to move forward in another direction and challenge AFC and/or the top 6. Completely agree -just mediocre and it's start at the top for years now. Why making a call so early? This is similar to the AW's- all long time there with no real changes- cliché same old same old - jobs for the boys. They need an independent management with no bias.

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2 days ago

Gee some miserable people here. Good thing this is sorted early so he can get on to the phone to potential players he wants now rather than later. We may still have a decent pre-season.

Good luck Greenie!

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2 days ago · edited 1 day ago · History

Netzer wrote:
This appointment is just an easy ,cheap ,predicable ( did they even look at another coach ?} options with no real ambitions to move forward in another direction and challenge AFC and/or the top 6. Completely agree -just mediocre and it's start at the top for years now. Why making a call so early? This is similar to the AW's- all long time there with no real changes- cliché same old same old - jobs for the boys. They need an independent management with no bias.

I am sorry but this is just nonsense. It is a reasonable appointment of a no-nonsense local coach with proven loyalty to the club who knows the players and the club financial situation. He is neither worse nor better than other people we may find for the job (David Zdrilic anyone? Jean de Marigny? Alen Stajcic?).
To succeed, we will need good players directed by a good coach. I want stability and direction from Greenacre, and good basics; not winning the toilet seat in the first season is not going to turn me off. I expect decent performances; and what we put up against Macarthur was not it.

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2 days ago

ballane wrote:
imanixsupporter wrote:
On the basis of the article released, it seems Greenie's KPIs are work hard, instill pride, create moments to be proud of, get crowds back etc. No bullish ambition about making finals or winning titles or anything like that.

He's a club man through and through and as such it is hard to be hopeful that he will exorcise the culture of mediocrity that is so deeply embedded at the club. But it could be worse, we could still have Chiefy. Good luck Greenie
As a matter of interest have you ever spoken to anyone that works for the club in management or any of the players. Would be interested to hear which of them this " culture of mediocrity" that you and others talk about comes from because its cerainly hasnt been something i have heard from anyone involved in the Phoenix.
Its something you and others constantly throw around with little actual basis.

Ummm! Maybe what he means is what many fans would put in the mediocre list..... which include poor communication, poor socials, poor league results, poor playoff results, poor game promotion, poor recruitment, poor ambition etc etc.
I love this club and I want it to succeed but i dont have a blind eye to its faults.
This is a supporters forum and people have every right to constructively point out what they think needs to be done better.
Just because you are matey with people in the club doesnt give you the right to not allow others to express their opinions.
I am 100% behind Greenie as coach and I hope the club give him 100% support because hes going to need it

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2 days ago · edited 2 days ago · History

Greeny has been around the A League a long time. He will have contacts and knowledge that put him in a good place for building a team that can play his style of football. Looking forward to it.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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2 days ago · edited 2 days ago · History

austin111 wrote:
ballane wrote:
imanixsupporter wrote:
On the basis of the article released, it seems Greenie's KPIs are work hard, instill pride, create moments to be proud of, get crowds back etc. No bullish ambition about making finals or winning titles or anything like that.

He's a club man through and through and as such it is hard to be hopeful that he will exorcise the culture of mediocrity that is so deeply embedded at the club. But it could be worse, we could still have Chiefy. Good luck Greenie
As a matter of interest have you ever spoken to anyone that works for the club in management or any of the players. Would be interested to hear which of them this " culture of mediocrity" that you and others talk about comes from because its cerainly hasnt been something i have heard from anyone involved in the Phoenix.
Its something you and others constantly throw around with little actual basis.
Ummm! Maybe what he means is what many fans would put in the mediocre list..... which include poor communication, poor socials, poor league results, poor playoff results, poor game promotion, poor recruitment, poor ambition etc etc.
I love this club and I want it to succeed but i dont have a blind eye to its faults.
This is a supporters forum and people have every right to constructively point out what they think needs to be done better.
Just because you are matey with people in the club doesnt give you the right to not allow others to express their opinions.
I am 100% behind Greenie as coach and I hope the club give him 100% support because hes going to need it

Rather ironic yet you dont want me to not express an opinion on a statement about the club or the people working for it that is just wrong and made on a wrong assumption.
Not sure what me talking to people at the club has to do with it or in any way suggests i have a "blind eye to its faults, i have often posted things about the club which i feel arnt being done right or tell them directly unlike others hiding behind nom de plumes.
If i misunderstood what was posted im sorry but saying a " culture of mediocrity" to me suggests they seem to think that it is something planned and deliberately being driven by the club.

I make no apologies for unashamedly standing up for my club there are few of us who do it most just seem happy to continually bash them and complain about everything then be happy to jump to the front when things are going well.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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2 days ago

Any ideas who the assistant coach might be? Ifill apparently has been at some training sessions.

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2 days ago

I could see Ifill being approached by Greenie for an assistant gig. Could be a good combo, theyve both got history with the club and have been in NZ and around the Aleague for a while.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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1 day ago · edited 1 day ago · History

nixin wrote:
Any ideas who the assistant coach might be? Ifill apparently has been at some training sessions.

I'm hopeful we can get Ifill as an assistant.

Having him and Greenie seems like they would work well together, and having 2 club legends there will make sure the squad know what it means to play for the club.

I might be remembering incorrectly but I feel like some of the training sessions Ifill helped out with was right before our win at AAMI Park.

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1 day ago

I did not want to post it earlier but I distinctly remember our local TV commentators state (might have been the WSW game) that Greenie allegedly asked Ifill to get involved. No mention of any specifics, just that Greenacre reached out to Ifill directly and it must have been more than a 1:1 conversation for it to leak out. There was nothing further to it that I know of.

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1 day ago

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Iffy says he wasn't there coaching just showed up to watch and Greenie gave him a tracksuit

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1 day ago · edited 1 day ago · History

Cautiously optimistic about Greenacre.

But the press conference had no questions on his coaching approach is beyond 'hard work' and 'pride in the badge'.

He comes across better than he used to, but is still pretty bland.

I'd like to know which coaches and tactical approaches he admires.
Which past Nix players did he most admire?

For that matter, does anyone with an eye on the academy or NZ under 20s have an impression on what we're likely to get?

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1 day ago

theprof wrote:
I could see Ifill being approached by Greenie for an assistant gig. Could be a good combo, theyve both got history with the club and have been in NZ and around the Aleague for a while.

Ifill is currently in the UK scouting recuits for Greenie.
Ha! I just made that up. But he is there on holiday so maybe he is casting an eye on possible imports. A Greenie Ifill coaching duo would be fun. Two guys with vast footballing experiance and Nix veterans

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about 21 hours ago

Ifill has never gone after his coaching badges (his assistant was the head coach on paper at Olympic). Does he even want to be a coach in a pro-environment?

Valley FC til I die?

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about 20 hours ago

Nelfoos wrote:
Ifill has never gone after his coaching badges (his assistant was the head coach on paper at Olympic). Does he even want to be a coach in a pro-environment?

Felt like he was interested post chiefy on the unused subs? But said he hadn’t been approached etc

Would be happy for them to be reunited.

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about 19 hours ago

Nelfoos wrote:
Ifill has never gone after his coaching badges (his assistant was the head coach on paper at Olympic). Does he even want to be a coach in a pro-environment?

I suspect there are rules around qualifications for even non head coaches. Especially for non Australians. Can anyone assist with the rules here and does Iffy meet the threshold?

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about 19 hours ago

Nelfoos wrote:
Ifill has never gone after his coaching badges (his assistant was the head coach on paper at Olympic). Does he even want to be a coach in a pro-environment?

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about 17 hours ago

Walsall Boy wrote:
Nelfoos wrote:
Ifill has never gone after his coaching badges (his assistant was the head coach on paper at Olympic). Does he even want to be a coach in a pro-environment?
I suspect there are rules around qualifications for even non head coaches. Especially for non Australians. Can anyone assist with the rules here and does Iffy meet the threshold?

There are qualification requirements for A-League head coaches (a Pro license). I dont know if there are requirements for assistants to be qualified or what level would be the minimum.

Valley FC til I die?

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Bevan wrote:
Cautiously optimistic about Greenacre.

But the press conference had no questions on his coaching approach is beyond 'hard work' and 'pride in the badge'.

He comes across better than he used to, but is still pretty bland.

I'd like to know which coaches and tactical approaches he admires.
Which past Nix players did he most admire?

For that matter, does anyone with an eye on the academy or NZ under 20s have an impression on what we're likely to get?

He might sound bland, but the body language and the way he addressed the questions I thought was very good.

He'll have his setups that he wants to employ as well. The 4-4-2 he brought in for the interim period was always more about steadying the ship over developing his own style and furthering his imprint on the team.

Looking ahead to next season I'm hoping to see more of the 4-2-3-1 setup which he employed for the U20's at the World Cup. The caveat to this for me though would be if we can re-sign Rufer. If he leaves we'd end up having to sign two quality #6's and I just don't know if we're able to pull two rabbits out of the hat in that instance to cover his loss.

As for further filling out of the squad, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few lads he's worked with at the NZ U20 level come through, at least on a trial basis anyway.

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about 17 hours ago

YoungHeartHM wrote:
Bevan wrote:
Cautiously optimistic about Greenacre.

But the press conference had no questions on his coaching approach is beyond 'hard work' and 'pride in the badge'.

He comes across better than he used to, but is still pretty bland.

I'd like to know which coaches and tactical approaches he admires.
Which past Nix players did he most admire?

For that matter, does anyone with an eye on the academy or NZ under 20s have an impression on what we're likely to get?
He might sound bland, but the body language and the way he addressed the questions I thought was very good.

He'll have his setups that he wants to employ as well. The 4-4-2 he brought in for the interim period was always more about steadying the ship over developing his own style and furthering his imprint on the team.

Looking ahead to next season I'm hoping to see more of the 4-2-3-1 setup which he employed for the U20's at the World Cup. The caveat to this for me though would be if we can re-sign Rufer. If he leaves we'd end up having to sign two quality #6's and I just don't know if we're able to pull two rabbits out of the hat in that instance to cover his loss.

As for further filling out of the squad, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few lads he's worked with at the NZ U20 level come through on at least a trial basis as well.

Give me bland and sensible instead of a word salad every day of the week. 442 is his go to and relies on his 10's to provide the width and will also allow one of the 9's to go wide at times. The 4231 is more of a NZ Football system and I will be really surprised if he moves away from the 442....never did it in all the time he was the Reserves coach in the Nix setup notwithstanding the many and varied systems that Chief tried to implement. Imo just what the Club needs at this stage....hugely organised, places huge value on training, very good man manager, fair and highly respected by players and staff. If one was to be critical, maybe a little too rigid and would be good to see him change things up a little from time to time. Great appointment!

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