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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mmmmm time to leapfrog Perth Glory into 5th and maintain that unbeaten home game streak. The Ring of Fire is up there with the House of Pain.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Fury and Jest to draw please.

Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic 
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
mikecj wrote:
Fury and Jest to draw please.


Half time--- Jets 1-0 over the Fury

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jets up 1-0 at the moment. Should it stay that way, we stay where we are. A draw would be better mind.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We must get more points in the second half of the season if we are to get top 6.
 
Things are looking up but 17 points in 14 games is not great really. Really need to get a couple of away wins under our belt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah agreed. What worries me,is we've sacrificed a couple of our home games to play in palmy and chch (despite what people say it is still effectively like playing away from home). Considering we are undefeated at the ROF,i hope it doesnt return to bite us in the ass.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tegal wrote:
Yeah agreed. What worries me,is we've sacrificed a couple of our home games to play in palmy and chch (despite what people say it is still effectively like playing away from home). Considering we are undefeated at the ROF,i hope it doesnt return to bite us in the ass.
 
Yeah I was just thinking about that.
 
Still disagree with that decision. Is there even anything on at Westpac on December 12th??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think they were talking sh*t when they said it was because of events on those dates so the stadium is unavailable. No other A league team has the problem that i know of,and im sure the FFA couldve scheduled around it. And i cant find anythign on those weekends either,so my initial thought seems to have been right.
 
Unless Tony P or someone can shed some light as to what exactly is on that has meant we have to play away? And why the fixtures couldnt have been worked around these events?
 
Is just a worry that i had looking at the few remaining fixtures we have at the ROF for the last half of the season. With how results have gone away,and our closeness to the playoffs,it could very well hurt us when it comes to the crunch. Hope im wrong.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tegal wrote:
Yeah agreed. What worries me,is we've sacrificed a couple of our home games to play in palmy and chch (despite what people say it is still effectively like playing away from home). Considering we are undefeated at the ROF,i hope it doesnt return to bite us in the ass.
 
 
if it does as you say "bite us in the ass" then the club management need to take a serious look at their decision-making
 
i'm of the old fashioned view that football is about winning not selling t-shirts
 
(yes, i know: economic realities blah, blah but if we do drop points in our kiwi-away games that will have an economic impact too, i expect)
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steve-O wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Yeah agreed. What worries me,is we've sacrificed a couple of our home games to play in palmy and chch (despite what people say it is still effectively like playing away from home). Considering we are undefeated at the ROF,i hope it doesnt return to bite us in the ass.
 
Yeah I was just thinking about that.
 
Still disagree with that decision. Is there even anything on at Westpac on December 12th??
The reason why ROF is unavailable for the 2 games, is that the ground is under going maintenance. Apparenlty relaying turf.
 
That is the reason from the annual draft report 2009 from westpac site.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ACDC is the reason for the January game isn't it?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
darkhorse wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Yeah agreed. What worries me,is we've sacrificed a couple of our home games to play in palmy and chch (despite what people say it is still effectively like playing away from home). Considering we are undefeated at the ROF,i hope it doesnt return to bite us in the ass.
 
Yeah I was just thinking about that.
 
Still disagree with that decision. Is there even anything on at Westpac on December 12th??
The reason why ROF is unavailable for the 2 games, is that the ground is under going maintenance. Apparenlty relaying turf.
 
That is the reason from the annual draft report 2009 from westpac site.
 
AC/DC is on 30th Jan but there is nothing on December 12th. Turf doesn't even look like it needs relaid? Looks like it is in great shape actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
darkhorse wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Yeah agreed. What worries me,is we've sacrificed a couple of our home games to play in palmy and chch (despite what people say it is still effectively like playing away from home). Considering we are undefeated at the ROF,i hope it doesnt return to bite us in the ass.
 
Yeah I was just thinking about that.
 
Still disagree with that decision. Is there even anything on at Westpac on December 12th??
The reason why ROF is unavailable for the 2 games, is that the ground is under going maintenance. Apparenlty relaying turf.
 
That is the reason from the annual draft report 2009 from westpac site.
 
in that case the Stadium need to sort their sh*t out - clearly, they hardly value the Nix as clients
 
 
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jets up 2-0

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
darkhorse wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Yeah agreed. What worries me,is we've sacrificed a couple of our home games to play in palmy and chch (despite what people say it is still effectively like playing away from home). Considering we are undefeated at the ROF,i hope it doesnt return to bite us in the ass.
 
Yeah I was just thinking about that.
 
Still disagree with that decision. Is there even anything on at Westpac on December 12th??
The reason why ROF is unavailable for the 2 games, is that the ground is under going maintenance. Apparenlty relaying turf.
 
That is the reason from the annual draft report 2009 from westpac site.
 
Ah rugby off season,so relay the pitch. Its still rubbish if you ask me. Scheduling couldve been done around it,or the pitch relaying couldve started on december 13th (or whatever). not hard. I suspect they got told "stadium unavailable these days" and the club said they didnt mind and took it as an opportunity to take the nix away to other venues.
 
Too much of a coincidence that its happened on the year we have more fixtures. But hey,maybe im just a conspiracy theorist. Its just...odd is all.
 
Didnt mean to turn this into any sort of angsty thread,just with the closeness of the league table,a passing thought was that it could hurt us. Passing thought turns to this it seems

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tigers wrote:
darkhorse wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Yeah agreed. What worries me,is we've sacrificed a couple of our home games to play in palmy and chch (despite what people say it is still effectively like playing away from home). Considering we are undefeated at the ROF,i hope it doesnt return to bite us in the ass.
 
Yeah I was just thinking about that.
 
Still disagree with that decision. Is there even anything on at Westpac on December 12th??
The reason why ROF is unavailable for the 2 games, is that the ground is under going maintenance. Apparenlty relaying turf.
 
That is the reason from the annual draft report 2009 from westpac site.
 
in that case the Stadium need to sort their sh*t out - clearly, they hardly value the Nix as clients
 
 
 
Why relay the turf when it's going to get battered by those attrending the AC/DC concert the next month? Defies all logic. Have the concert and then relay the turf. DOH!!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
S'all right, when Angus starts lip syncing they'll all rush out again
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Phoenix 1 Perth 1
Jets 2 NQF 0
 
  Pl W D L F A GD Pts Sydney FC 14 8 1 5 19 12 7 25 Melbourne Victory 14 7 3 4 22 22 0 24 Gold Coast United 14 7 2 5 20 20 0 23 Central Coast Mariners 14 5 5 4 17 8 9 20 Perth Glory 14 5 3 6 19 18 1 18 Wellington Phoenix 14 3 8 3 20 15 5 17 Brisbane Roar 14 4 4 6 18 21 -3 16 Adelaide United 14 4 4 6 12 17 -5 16 Newcastle Jets 14 4 4 6 14 21 -7 16 North Queensland Fury 14 3 6 5 15 22 -7 15
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i still think the stadium authorities are playing us for fools,
 
but on a lighter note a few more of Siggy's diving headers and the pitch will need re-laying on a regular basis
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
 
Why relay the turf when it's going to get battered by those attrending the AC/DC concert the next month? Defies all logic. Have the concert and then relay the turf. DOH!!
 
Indeed. I don't believe that it's even being relaid to be honest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Wow, win our next game and we could be in the top 4, lose and we could be last. Very tight league.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Im pretty sure the re-lay would have been on the books for months if not years, cant really do it Jan/Feb because of 7s, I know that will have all you tin foil nutters up in arms but the Sevens is worth big bucks. Can't do it during Rugby season cos of the weather I imagine.
 
May take topleft07 to explain all this for is

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

bopman,i agree it cant be done during 7s,completely. And the nix are on at the start of january anyways. What im saying is could they not have delayed the relaying until the day after the nix game? (we arent playing a home game for another month after that,plenty of time). OR couldnt the club have told the FFA we cant play at home for these times and they take that into account for creating fixture lists? (no other A league club has had this problem for 2 home games that im aware of).

Never been a problem before,and all of a sudden we get 2 extra games,and they just happen to have to take 2 games away. I dont believe it.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steve-O wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
 
Why relay the turf when it's going to get battered by those attrending the AC/DC concert the next month? Defies all logic. Have the concert and then relay the turf. DOH!!
 
Indeed. I don't believe that it's even being relaid to be honest.
Hey guys i just went back into the westpac site to double check the annual report in PDF it says:
 
That the stadium management will undertake significant turf renovation which will take 5 weeks from December/Janurary. Due to this they were unable to host 1 Phoenix home game.
 
So it looks like the Phoenix management have also sacrificed 1 home game (in AMI Stadium) possibly to promote Phoenix across the country.
 
Heres the link in PDF. about half way down under "Turf"
darkhorse2009-11-08 21:05:00
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No.

They have sacrificed the gme because the stadium is booked for the AC/DC concert.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
oh ok then then its a stadium decision then.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Can it not be scheduled around though?
 
But hmm 5 weeks,ok i take that comment back. But surely the ACDC can be worked around? swap a home game for an away game somewhere and sorted. Im sure the FFA must take such things into account when doing the fixtures.
 
Correct me if im genuinely wrong though.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Like Tegal said, they could've commenced work immediately after the Dec 12th game? Or is there other things on in the following 5 weeks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It all depends on turnaround really doesnt it, if you figure our last home game there is Dec 4 and the pitch gets relayed after that the next event would be an ODI in January. By moving that Dec 12 game they create enough space. If it was done in January there would be issues around ODIs and turnaround time before 7s.
 
Edit: After a bit of a search, no ODI through December. So after our game on the 4th my read it is that there is no event on at the RoF until our next home game until the 5th January.
bopman2009-11-08 21:16:19

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah i agree,no matter when they started it it wouldve clashed with a game. Cant blame the stadium. So its a fixture scheduling thing,particularly with the ACDC game (as can hardly ask the FFA not to give us a home game for 5 weeks,so the relaying of the pitch is fine by me). But no excuse for a one off concert.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I was thinking..the basin reserve came to mind, but its cricket season, and the stands would be to far from the action. well maybe they should of played at norths rugby ground lol. that was a joke.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bopman wrote:
It all depends on turnaround really doesnt it, if you figure our last home game there is Dec 4 and the pitch gets relayed after that the next event would be an ODI in January. By moving that Dec 12 game they create enough space. If it was done in January there would be issues around ODIs and turnaround time before 7s.
 
I don't think there are any cricket matches in January this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Itd still have to clash with a nix game at some point though steve-O. 5 weeks is a healthy chunk of time. I only had an issue when was thinking more like 2-3 weeks. But 5,fair enough,neither the staidum or the FFA could be expected to work around that.Tegal2009-11-08 21:18:41

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Is there a home game in early January? I think that's what I am missing here.
 
Before I have even posted, just realised there are 2 home games in the first 3 weeks of Jan.
 
Fair enough. Still could cause us problems though, legit reasons or not!
 
5 weeks seems ages to relay turf but I'm no expert!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
With the scheduled game at FMP in palmy it will be interesting to see how many locals turn up. They may have green bucket heads but i'll be cutting a hole in my football and going as a soccer head. darkhorse2009-11-08 21:24:19
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Haha ah yeah thats what you were missing
 
No excuse for the ACDC one though. Whether the blame lays with the nix or the FFA for that decision,its pretty poor. Id lean toward it being the nix idea,but cant say i know for sure.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steve-O wrote:
We must get more points in the second half of the season if we are to get top 6.
 
You mean 17 points is enough
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SiNZ wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
We must get more points in the second half of the season if we are to get top 6.
 
You mean 17 points is enough
 
When I was typing it I thought it might be read that way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
HarryHotspur wrote:
S'all right, when Angus starts lip syncing they'll all rush out again
Not that Angus sings - he plays the guitar.
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