Hail ___ the Chief - Giancarlo Italiano

observer

Chiefy and Greenacre don't talk either so the list of people he has fallen out with is growing... How can you not talk to your Reserve Team Coach?

Expect another average to poor season next season with another super low xG. I for one will not be attending any games until that number increases dramatically - at least AFC create a lot of chances and play exciting football!

Ahh- AFC mentioned out of nowhere in a Nix discussion by a poster with the credibility of one post. I knew this M.O. was familiar. 

Monto

theprof

observer

Here is last season (23/24) for reference:

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Still last!

XG is manufactured for the TV audience, its largely meaningless, Sydney at the top of this list and they sit 6th.

So meaningless that all top football teams use it as a metric!

Means fudge all as a supporter though.

I just don't get this re-signing to be honest.

At a time when we are at an all-time-low, why are we re-hiring our coach?

We needed a fresh start, fresh ideas, fresh inspiration. Something to look forward to. We are getting none of that.

It also sends a bad message - that we are willing to re-sign a coach when the team has performed terribly, and been humiliated by our local rivals which only just entered the competition.

People are not showing up to matches anymore. There's no excitement around the club.

I will obviously still be supporting this club, I'm not a 'bandwagoner'. But this is probably the most deflated I've been about the Nix since the end of the Ricki Herbert era.

I hope I'm wrong, and things improve from here. Like others have said, we can be negative/frustrated at times, but it's because we care about this club, we invest a lot of our time into it, and we want to see it succeed. For people at the club to say that there's 'a lot of crap posted online', might be true to an extent, but at the same time I think a lot of the criticism is warranted. And again, we speak our thoughts because we care about the club.

The last thing the club needs is to alienate it's core fans (let alone the fringe fans that have been turned off this season by the really poor quality of football).

For me, having watched all the Nix's games, all AFC games, the major difference between the two has been not so much the skill ability of the players or the coordination between the players but in the difference between AFC's agressive determination v Nix's determined passivity in match after match. Very weird it took a Corban Piper to change the mindset.

I just don't get this re-signing to be honest.

At a time when we are at an all-time-low, why are we re-hiring our coach?

We needed a fresh start, fresh ideas, fresh inspiration. Something to look forward to. We are getting none of that.

It also sends a bad message - that we are willing to re-sign a coach when the team has performed terribly, and been humiliated by our local rivals which only just entered the competition.

People are not showing up to matches anymore. There's no excitement around the club.

I will obviously still be supporting this club, I'm not a 'bandwagoner'. But this is probably the most deflated I've been about the Nix since the end of the Ricki Herbert era.

I hope I'm wrong, and things improve from here. Like others have said, we can be negative/frustrated at times, but it's because we care about this club, we invest a lot of our time into it, and we want to see it succeed. For people at the club to say that there's 'a lot of crap posted online', might be true to an extent, but at the same time I think a lot of the criticism is warranted. And again, we speak our thoughts because we care about the club.

The last thing the club needs is to alienate it's core fans (let alone the fringe fans that have been turned off this season by the really poor quality of football).

Ninja

I just don't get this re-signing to be honest.

At a time when we are at an all-time-low, why are we re-hiring our coach?

We needed a fresh start, fresh ideas, fresh inspiration. Something to look forward to. We are getting none of that.

It also sends a bad message - that we are willing to re-sign a coach when the team has performed terribly, and been humiliated by our local rivals which only just entered the competition.

People are not showing up to matches anymore. There's no excitement around the club.

I will obviously still be supporting this club, I'm not a 'bandwagoner'. But this is probably the most deflated I've been about the Nix since the end of the Ricki Herbert era.

I hope I'm wrong, and things improve from here. Like others have said, we can be negative/frustrated at times, but it's because we care about this club, we invest a lot of our time into it, and we want to see it succeed. For people at the club to say that there's 'a lot of crap posted online', might be true to an extent, but at the same time I think a lot of the criticism is warranted. And again, we speak our thoughts because we care about the club.

The last thing the club needs is to alienate it's core fans (let alone the fringe fans that have been turned off this season by the really poor quality of football).

An all-time low? Worst season ever?

Did the Darije Kalezić season ever happen? Sometimes I feel like it must have been wiped from the record books.

Jessie Merino

For me, having watched all the Nix's games, all AFC games, the major difference between the two has been not so much the skill ability of the players or the coordination between the players but in the difference between AFC's agressive determination v Nix's determined passivity in match after match. Very weird it took a Corban Piper to change the mindset.

yes, auckland play like a collective of piper's with technique layered over the effort.

watching their games is like watching a different competition

Chiefy and Greenacre don't talk either so the list of people he has fallen out with is growing... How can you not talk to your Reserve Team Coach?

Expect another average to poor season next season with another super low xG. I for one will not be attending any games until that number increases dramatically - at least AFC create a lot of chances and play exciting football!

Completely agree on the difference between the Nix and AFC in combativity. AFC are aggressive, they strongly contest every ball and give the opposition little time. The Nix in contrast are meek. They are often passive in defense. 
AFC have more quality players but you can often be effective with lesser quality players by playing an aggressive combative style of football. I would have thought it would be quite straightforward to get enthusiastic youngsters to run around like mad dogs.

OK, those that don't like xG stats - here are the shots stats:

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8.62 per 90 is pretty bad and we are very far behind the the top teams and even the teams below us on the table. The football he is dishing up is terrible - the stats don't lie!

observer

OK, those that don't like xG stats - here are the shots stats:

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8.62 per 90 is pretty bad and we are very far behind the the top teams and even the teams below us on the table. The football he is dishing up is terrible - the stats don't lie!

and again I'll point out the obserdity of using a stat to justify a thing, stats only create part of the story. If we loloked at this stat and the xG stat together then why arent Sydney at the top of the table? Why are we not bottom? 
stats in isolation are meaningless. they only paint part of the picture - and they do not support the story you're trying to tell. The only table that matters is the league table, and on that we sit 11th - not great sure but not the worst.

As an exaomple I could take that you've been a member of the forum for 23 hours, made four posts and all have been anti nix crap - therefore you're not really a fan and havent been ever - am I correct, or am I taking numbers in isolation to make what I think true?

Last season our number of shots per game would have been low too, we finished 2nd? No idea or care for the xG numbers but I'd imagine that wassnt great last season either.

theprof

Last season our number of shots per game would have been low too, we finished 2nd? No idea or care for the xG numbers but I'd imagine that wassnt great last season either.

 xG is just a stat like any other stat where by itself, it's meaningless, but with context it can help come to a conclusion.

The conclusion you can take about Chiefy's tactics is that it's incredibly dependent on generating high quality shots, and finishing them at a higher rate  than pretty much any other team in the league. It is also extremely dependent on a  goalkeeper performing above average.

theprof

observer

OK, those that don't like xG stats - here are the shots stats:

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8.62 per 90 is pretty bad and we are very far behind the the top teams and even the teams below us on the table. The football he is dishing up is terrible - the stats don't lie!

and again I'll point out the obserdity of using a stat to justify a thing, stats only create part of the story. If we loloked at this stat and the xG stat together then why arent Sydney at the top of the table? Why are we not bottom? 
stats in isolation are meaningless. they only paint part of the picture - and they do not support the story you're trying to tell. The only table that matters is the league table, and on that we sit 11th - not great sure but not the worst.

As an exaomple I could take that you've been a member of the forum for 23 hours, made four posts and all have been anti nix crap - therefore you're not really a fan and havent been ever - am I correct, or am I taking numbers in isolation to make what I think true?

Stats can be used to support an argument..

The only argument you have is 'hey, at least we're not bottom'?

I'll go with the stats guy.

I think it's fair to say that we have struggled to get into attacking positions, and when we do, we rely on Kosta to slot it 9/10 times.

To be fair, this is basically what we did in the season we went well in too - but the difference is that we had the best keeper in the league to save us down the other end.

It's not sustainable football unless you've got the best keeper and best striker in the league.

Ninja

I just don't get this re-signing to be honest.

At a time when we are at an all-time-low, why are we re-hiring our coach?

We needed a fresh start, fresh ideas, fresh inspiration. Something to look forward to. We are getting none of that.

It also sends a bad message - that we are willing to re-sign a coach when the team has performed terribly, and been humiliated by our local rivals which only just entered the competition.

People are not showing up to matches anymore. There's no excitement around the club.

I will obviously still be supporting this club, I'm not a 'bandwagoner'. But this is probably the most deflated I've been about the Nix since the end of the Ricki Herbert era.

I hope I'm wrong, and things improve from here. Like others have said, we can be negative/frustrated at times, but it's because we care about this club, we invest a lot of our time into it, and we want to see it succeed. For people at the club to say that there's 'a lot of crap posted online', might be true to an extent, but at the same time I think a lot of the criticism is warranted. And again, we speak our thoughts because we care about the club.

The last thing the club needs is to alienate it's core fans (let alone the fringe fans that have been turned off this season by the really poor quality of football).

An all-time low? Worst season ever?

Did the Darije Kalezić season ever happen? Sometimes I feel like it must have been wiped from the record books.

At the members’ Q&A today Gill said the Chiefy decision boiled down to “you learn more from your mistakes than your successes”, so they must be expecting some changes in approach.

He also mentioned there was “some back-and-forth” within the football committee about the decision, which makes me wonder how close it was.

At the members’ Q&A today Gill said the Chiefy decision boiled down to “you learn more from your mistakes than your successes”, so they must be expecting some changes in approach.

He also mentioned there was “some back-and-forth” within the football committee about the decision, which makes me wonder how close it was.

For years the Nix faithful have put up with the ups and downs of supporting a football club. Mainly downs TBH. But people have stuck with it. Now it feels different. The arrival and quick success of another NZ team has put the spotlight on how our club has been managed over the years.
I personally feel insulted by the reaction of the clubs management. They have completely failed to appreciate the depth of feeling from the fans. Its been a crap season. They have re-signed an unpopular coach. Then they have come out in a defence manner saying we have short memories and there is a lot of crap on social media.
We are not the problem. The club needs to look at how it interacts with its fan base. We wont just continually turn up because we always have. 
Running a football club is more than just spreadsheets.

coochiee

martinb

Piper I’m kind of okay with. He does 4-5 things and we want him in position to do those…

Hughes…we’ll probably need him at the back, but definitely has the skills to play higher up. 

If the rumours about Griff above are true, why is Chief falling out with so many people? Can this be sorted out because if we’re taking Chief because of previous success, that was equally the success of a brilliantly parsimonious side. Which surely means good defensive coaching. 

Sort your sharke out Chief, behind closed doors if possible, buy some new shirts and win us something. 

Slow down. Can Pierre even name the Nix 'defensive coach'? 
Looks a bit of baseless post to me by someone who clearly is not a fan of Italiano.

Yeah where TF is Pierre getting this from lol. Chief specifically said he reads plenty of crap online, this'll be some of that crap. If Chief had fallen out with as many of the people I've seen mentioned here there is no way he'd be signed on again. One falling out can be a misunderstanding but several happening and you won't be hired again

If YoungHeartHM said this id listen. Who TF is Pierre 🤣