I went down hunter street and looked in the asb building, I couldnt find it? where is it?
And here is a list of things we need in the shop that wern't at the old one:
Long Sleeved home and away strips
GK shirts
Offical name and numbering (you can only get them on the internet)
Training Gear
More Posters (some of individual players)
Holdalls
Drink Bottles
Coaches Jackets (The new ones, they dont sell the old ones anymore)
Stadium Jackets
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Probably hasn't opened.
Stadium Jackets? Are they like the red badge ones? Ask Stefan he might be able to get you one.
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I went down hunter street and looked in the asb building, I couldnt find it? where is it?
And here is a list of things we need in the shop that wern't at the old one:
Long Sleeved home and away strips
GK shirts
Offical name and numbering (you can only get them on the internet)
Training Gear
More Posters (some of individual players)
Holdalls
Drink Bottles
Coaches Jackets (The new ones, they dont sell the old ones anymore)
Stadium Jackets
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Lol Your not asking for much .... Stadium jackets are on the way
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Is this the only thread about a new phoenix store?
Where is it guna be and when is it opening? Since it sounds like they're unveiling the new shirts on tuesday, you would think any competent organisation would also have their store open so they can start selling the shirts? Am i wrong?
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I got that text Paul - The new Kit to be revealed next Tuesday
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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There are at least three threads that mention where the shop will be.
Cnr Hunter Street and Jervois Quay.
The club's plan was to have the shop open next week, but I don't know if that has been delayed.
Cnr Hunter Street and Jervois Quay.
The club's plan was to have the shop open next week, but I don't know if that has been delayed.
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There are at least three threads that mention where the shop will be.
Cnr Hunter Street and Jervois Quay.
The club's plan was to have the shop open next week, but I don't know if that has been delayed.
Cnr Hunter Street and Jervois Quay.
The club's plan was to have the shop open next week, but I don't know if that has been delayed.
Just went for a lunch time wander past the new shop. It's been emptied over the last few days (of junk) and is now an empty shell. Looks like it has been got ready for the shop fitters to do their thing - this normally takes around 2 weeks so can't see it being opened next week, or the week after, unless someone does some hard yards.
Hopefully there will be some temporary setup / location for those of us wanting to get some of the new kit when it's launched next week.
Or maybe we can get it at Ryos ?
Whitby boy2009-07-03 14:08:46He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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i m thinking about buying a new home strip. although had to pay $480 for the car and need my wisdom teeth removed which will probably cost me a grand or so.
wednesday is my birthday...anyone wants to get me a present?? :D lol
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Yeah i'm wanting the new strip too. ASAP!! and fever tees haha.
I looked for it ages ago to see if it was obvious where it would be.
but hopefully they do a good job
I looked for it ages ago to see if it was obvious where it would be.
but hopefully they do a good job
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And yeah I agree that there should be names and numbers. I know Melbourne give you the option to add them
playwithFire2009-07-03 15:08:29
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They cost a fair bit but you could get the licensed names and numbers via the website last time I checked. Champs FTW.
You know we belong together...
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They are $40 bucks extra. thats not a bad price really.
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They cost a fair bit but you could get the licensed names and numbers via the website last time I checked. Champs FTW.
oh, ffs.
live a little.
you only have one life.
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So if the strip is out on tuesday and the shop isnt open, where do we buy the strip?
If Ryos etc have it in store immediately that's great, but surely our beloved club wouldn't be so incompetent as to not be selling their own strip upon it's release? Where is the logic in that?
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Hopefully there will be some temporary setup / location for those of us wanting to get some of the new kit when it's launched next week.
Tony P to comment?
If not then i guess we'll all be heading to other retailers, provided they have their stores open of course...
paulm2009-07-03 23:52:44
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If it is the case it probably has more to do with focussing on getting season tickets sold and strikers signed than a general incompetence.
Talk is club shop in a fortnight, but we'll see.
Talk is club shop in a fortnight, but we'll see.
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Somebody hold me back...
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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So if the strip is out on tuesday and the shop isnt open, where do we buy the strip?
If Ryos etc have it in store immediately that's great, but surely our beloved club wouldn't be so incompetent as to not be selling their own strip upon it's release? Where is the logic in that?
Answered your own question there
The club doesn't need a store to sell the strip - it can do so through an intermediary such as RYOS or Champs, or through other methods such as online or mail-order. In fact, I haven't heard of any other A-League team having a club-specific store (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
Incompetance is failing to fill a need when you can/should. Using an in intermediary to fill a need isn't incompetance at all. As long as the strip is for sale shortly after unveiling, then sweet as.
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Yeah I want a shirt too. But a striker would make me happier. Would rather have a complete team playing in rags than a disgraceful side with the most amazing strip and awesome flashy store.
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So if the strip is out on tuesday and the shop isnt open, where do we buy the strip?
If Ryos etc have it in store immediately that's great, but surely our beloved club wouldn't be so incompetent as to not be selling their own strip upon it's release? Where is the logic in that?
Answered your own question there
The club doesn't need a store to sell the strip - it can do so through an intermediary such as RYOS or Champs, or through other methods such as online or mail-order. In fact, I haven't heard of any other A-League team having a club-specific store (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
Incompetance is failing to fill a need when you can/should. Using an in intermediary to fill a need isn't incompetance at all. As long as the strip is for sale shortly after unveiling, then sweet as.
Business logic suggests that ryos would be more of a competitor to the phoenix store than an intermediary. Surely selling shirts through their own store would be more profitable and advantageous than selling them through other sports retailers.
And HN, yes im sure the nix management do focus on signings and sponsors etc, but that's no excuse for not opening your store on time to sell your own team shirts. Why else do they employ a commercial operations manager?
The proof is in the pudding, and that pudding will be displayed when the new shirts come on the market... if the nix cant get their own store open and trading shirts then i think they have some serious issues. Basic business - why else would you bother having a club store.
paulm2009-07-04 00:37:09
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Yeah I want a shirt too. But a striker would make me happier. Would rather have a complete team playing in rags than a disgraceful side with the most amazing strip and awesome flashy store.
Oh and on a side note i do agree with this comment 
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It should be noted that the commercial operations manager can, however, be hamstrung by the people that sign the cheques.
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It should be noted that the commercial operations manager can, however, be hamstrung by the people that sign the cheques.
Yes this is very true - whats the haps terry?
paulm2009-07-04 01:16:17
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Business logic suggests that ryos would be more of a competitor to the phoenix store than an intermediary. Surely selling shirts through their own store would be more profitable and advantageous than selling them through other sports retailers.[/quote]
Business logic suggests that:
- Having multiple vendors increases multiple sales. The Phoenix earn profit from sales generated by RYOS, Champs and other vendors. Let's say the formula for how much of a commission RYOS gets is Sale Price - Supplier Price = Commission. Yes, the Phoenix gets to keep that commission when they sell directly. However when RYOS pays the Supplier Price, part of that goes to Reebok and part of that goes to the Phoenix. I imagine missing out on the commission is somewhat mitigated by the supplier income the Phoenix receives - which is increased by having merchandise sold by other outlets.
- Having multiple vendors also increases market exposure. Phil at RYOS does a brilliant job of always having Phoenix gear in the front window. That puts the gear in peoples minds and may lead to people purchasing it. And while RYOS would gain the impulse shopper as purchasers, those who may wait could very well go to the club store instead.
- The goals of the organisation aren't always obvious. Is the goal of the Phoenix merchandising arm to generate as much sales as possible, or to generate as much sales strictly from a club-owned outlet as possible? And if one aim generated more income than the other, which should the organisation choose?
There's more to the position of "commerical operations manager" than just opening a store. You're right in that the search for a striker shouldn't impact on the job of the COM, but it does have an impact on everyone else involved, who aren't necessarily solely allocated to that job.
And there is no guarantee that the person with that title is to blame either - it could be builders, electricians, accountants...
[quote=paulm]
Business logic suggests that:
- Having multiple vendors increases multiple sales. The Phoenix earn profit from sales generated by RYOS, Champs and other vendors. Let's say the formula for how much of a commission RYOS gets is Sale Price - Supplier Price = Commission. Yes, the Phoenix gets to keep that commission when they sell directly. However when RYOS pays the Supplier Price, part of that goes to Reebok and part of that goes to the Phoenix. I imagine missing out on the commission is somewhat mitigated by the supplier income the Phoenix receives - which is increased by having merchandise sold by other outlets.
- Having multiple vendors also increases market exposure. Phil at RYOS does a brilliant job of always having Phoenix gear in the front window. That puts the gear in peoples minds and may lead to people purchasing it. And while RYOS would gain the impulse shopper as purchasers, those who may wait could very well go to the club store instead.
- The goals of the organisation aren't always obvious. Is the goal of the Phoenix merchandising arm to generate as much sales as possible, or to generate as much sales strictly from a club-owned outlet as possible? And if one aim generated more income than the other, which should the organisation choose?
And HN, yes im sure the nix management do focus on signings and sponsors etc, but that's no excuse for not opening your store on time to sell your own team shirts. Why else do they employ a commercial operations manager?
There's more to the position of "commerical operations manager" than just opening a store. You're right in that the search for a striker shouldn't impact on the job of the COM, but it does have an impact on everyone else involved, who aren't necessarily solely allocated to that job.
And there is no guarantee that the person with that title is to blame either - it could be builders, electricians, accountants...
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The proof is in the pudding, and that pudding will be displayed when the new shirts come on the market... if the nix cant get their own store open and trading shirts then i think they have some serious issues. Basic business - why else would you bother having a club store.
Again, you assume that they MUST have a club store to trade shirts or else they're incompetant. As I pointed out earlier, no other club does. You know what, neither do the All Blacks, the Hurricanes, the Warriors...however by your definition they are proven to be incompetant too. I don't like the All Blacks at all, however I'd say they're pretty well run (at least as far as off-field operations go!).
No disrespect mate, but I think you're making it out as being more of an issue than it really is.
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Robbwatson you make this comment: "Having multiple vendors increases multiple sales"
Of course that is correct - but come on, seriously, the phoenix organisation is not actively promoting any kit sales in any stores except their own shop. Yes, shirt sales at ryos benefit them, but they are doing nothing to encourage those sales, and you cannot tell me that they are not opening their store because they are relying on shirt sales through ryos and other stores. You are absolutely dreaming.
And i am not claimiing that sports teams are incompetent (note the correct spelling) if they dont have their own store - i am saying they are incompetent if they have their own store, but dont utilise it in a manner which provides them with their best possible profit.
To me it sounds like your defending for defending's sake.
You also make this comment: "And there is no guarantee that the person with that title is to blame either - it could be builders, electricians, accountants..."
To blame for what? You tell me - you agree there is an issue here?
I am only making one point here and i am not trying to make it more of an issue than it is. I will summarise it for you:
Why have a club store that does not make available it's own team shirt, despite other generic sports retailers having it available?
Surely others agree that this is a bit odd?
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Here is an even simpler way of putting it:
paulm2009-07-04 02:02:05
If I want to buy a phoenix shirt, as soon as it comes available, to support my beloved club (which i do), where would i go to buy it?
The phoenix store - where i know most of the profit will benefit the actual club?
Or a general sports store, where some of the profit will benefit my club, but not as much?
The answer is pretty f*cken obvious mate. But from what i've seen i apparently wont have the choice as the shop will not be open. Why?
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Paulm, I'm discussing this issue in a rational and collected manner. At no point have I attacked you or your
intelligence. Nor am I defending for the sake of defending. I have a different viewpoint from you and I'm
debating it. This is a discussion forum and most of us here use it because we like to discuss things. Just
because I see things differently and enjoy discussing the topic doesn't mean I'm "defending for the sake of
defending". C'mon mate, let's keep it civil eh?
I could rebut the points one by one, but I'd rather keep it simple than spam others. I'll simply answer this:
"Why have a club store that does not make available it's own team shirt, despite other generic sports retailers having it available?"
Simply, because the Phoenix do not have a club store. And if it did, it'd make the team shirt available. It has an empty room, nothing else. This is the problem, not "the club store won't sell the shirt".
You're painting this lack of a store opening as a sign of incompetence. I do agree that the store not being open is bad for business, but it's not necessarily as simple as the club being incompetent. I merely argued that it's not as simple as that, it could be out of the hands of the Commercial Operations Manager or even the club itself. Perhaps it is, but until we hear otherwise, saying so would be jumping to conclusions. Hopefully this question will get answered sooner rather than later.
You do have a choice - you have the choice to wait for the store to open and get your kit later, or you can choose to support Champs or RYOS. Both retailers have done a heck of a lot for the Nix and Yellow Fever, both benefit the club by existing, and both certainly deserve your business. Yes, it'd be better if you could shop at your preferred venue straight away - but you can't. So make another choice.
All I'm consider is don't rush to attack the organization without more information, and don't write off the other retailers.
intelligence. Nor am I defending for the sake of defending. I have a different viewpoint from you and I'm
debating it. This is a discussion forum and most of us here use it because we like to discuss things. Just
because I see things differently and enjoy discussing the topic doesn't mean I'm "defending for the sake of
defending". C'mon mate, let's keep it civil eh?
I could rebut the points one by one, but I'd rather keep it simple than spam others. I'll simply answer this:
"Why have a club store that does not make available it's own team shirt, despite other generic sports retailers having it available?"
Simply, because the Phoenix do not have a club store. And if it did, it'd make the team shirt available. It has an empty room, nothing else. This is the problem, not "the club store won't sell the shirt".
You're painting this lack of a store opening as a sign of incompetence. I do agree that the store not being open is bad for business, but it's not necessarily as simple as the club being incompetent. I merely argued that it's not as simple as that, it could be out of the hands of the Commercial Operations Manager or even the club itself. Perhaps it is, but until we hear otherwise, saying so would be jumping to conclusions. Hopefully this question will get answered sooner rather than later.
You do have a choice - you have the choice to wait for the store to open and get your kit later, or you can choose to support Champs or RYOS. Both retailers have done a heck of a lot for the Nix and Yellow Fever, both benefit the club by existing, and both certainly deserve your business. Yes, it'd be better if you could shop at your preferred venue straight away - but you can't. So make another choice.
All I'm consider is don't rush to attack the organization without more information, and don't write off the other retailers.
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I would suggest that given that Terry owns the properties that the Club Store has been and will be housed in that it would be more a Business decision than a Branding one as he can kill two birds with one stone by having a "Tenant" in one of his buildings generating a small amount of income and potential tax benefits etc for Century City Developments as well as giving the club a Retail Outlet to sell its Merchandise thus providing the Club with an alternative, yet relatively small profit stream!
Clever business if you ask me...
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Wouldn't have happened in your day would it C-Diddy ?
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So if the strip is out on tuesday and the shop isnt open, where do we buy the strip?
If Ryos etc have it in store immediately that's great, but surely our beloved club wouldn't be so incompetent as to not be selling their own strip upon it's release? Where is the logic in that?
Answered your own question there
The club doesn't need a store to sell the strip - it can do so through an intermediary such as RYOS or Champs, or through other methods such as online or mail-order. In fact, I haven't heard of any other A-League team having a club-specific store (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
Incompetance is failing to fill a need when you can/should. Using an in intermediary to fill a need isn't incompetance at all. As long as the strip is for sale shortly after unveiling, then sweet as.
Don't say that to the Tards!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Wouldn't have happened in your day would it C-Diddy ?
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Malben did it first.
Actually, the Knights might have done it first.
Hard News2009-07-04 09:49:57
Actually, the Knights might have done it first.
Hard News2009-07-04 09:49:57
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1: I have a different viewpoint from you and I'm
debating it. This is a discussion forum and most of us here use it because we like to discuss things.
2: I could rebut the points one by one, but I'd rather keep it simple than spam others.
3: because the Phoenix do not have a club store.
4: Hopefully this question will get answered sooner rather than later.
5: you can choose to support Champs or RYOS. Both retailers have done a heck of a lot for the Nix and Yellow Fever, both benefit the club by existing, and both certainly deserve your business.
debating it. This is a discussion forum and most of us here use it because we like to discuss things.
2: I could rebut the points one by one, but I'd rather keep it simple than spam others.
3: because the Phoenix do not have a club store.
4: Hopefully this question will get answered sooner rather than later.
5: you can choose to support Champs or RYOS. Both retailers have done a heck of a lot for the Nix and Yellow Fever, both benefit the club by existing, and both certainly deserve your business.
6: don't write off the other retailers.
1: this is exactly what i am doing
2: This is exactly what you did to me higher up the page. Medicine. Your own. Drink it.
3: Yes they do.
4: This is exactly what i am asking for, dont you see that?
5: Agreed. These retailers are excellent and i have shopped there for many products in the past. THank you Ryos in particular, you are awesome.
6: Where did i do this? Care to enlighten me? i merely mentioned that I would prefer to give more of my money directly to the club rather than an every day sporting business.
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shop fittings take bugger all time to install, i would be surprised if the shop wasn't open next week. heh, for all we know they might be waiting for the machine that does the numbering/lettering on the shirts to arrive so they can measure it up for the shop 
. If people are so keen on supporting the club directly, just order it from their website (or does this go straight to the FFA's pockets)
. If people are so keen on supporting the club directly, just order it from their website (or does this go straight to the FFA's pockets)
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These are good points uber.
I guess we'll just see who's selling and who's not when the shirts are released. Cue either people verbally bashing me or subtle gloating coming from me...
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I got my first shirt from RYOS and they are good supporters of football in wellington, so i wouldn't hesitate to get it from them again .(as long as i still get my 10% fever card discount)
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